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anyone else think that Jays mistakes last night
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Rhumbatugger
18-10-2015
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“He looked gutted, he was going to cry. He's not such a good actor His problem is he's inconsistent. He can learn and perform complex choreographies, just not every time. Not sure if this helps take off the pressure or crushes him more.”

I agree.

The reason he's inconsistent is that he's talented but not a ringah.

And I don't think he's THAT talented an actor either.

I laughed like a drain at this thread - the idea that he's some mega professional level dancer with the acting chops of Olivier and some dastardly plan made me imagine he has a white Persian somewhere in his secret lair.
catkins198
18-10-2015
I can't believe someone started this thread. What an insult to Jay and Alionna.

I don't believe any of the Strictly pro dancers would go along with such an idea and, as others have said, how good an actor would Jay have to be to carry it out and then look so upset?

He is human, he is NOT a trained dancer despite many people's accusations and he had a difficult routine. He went wrong, probably panicked and then could not get back into it correctly. Even a pro dancer can go wrong.

I felt sorry for him, he was obviously upset. I also thought the judges were very harsh. Yes he went wrong but they scored him too low
Gill P
18-10-2015
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“I disagree with the OP too.

He's not a robot. So he might have got it perfectly in training, but anything can happen during the actual live performance.

Have you never revised, trained, practised or whatever for something and then have it go wrong at the one time it mattered? If you haven't then I find that hard to believe - racing drivers crash, footballers miss penalties, people fail driving tests, musicians hit the wrong note, dancers fall over ..........

He just got it wrong on the night.”

Remember Matt Di Angelo forgetting two of his dances? Remember Mark Ramprakash and his rumba? It happens all the time! Even Ian Waite fell over in one of his dances early on.

My son trained for several years to be a Technical Illustrator and on the day of his long exam (8 hours) he came down with the most awful cold. Nothing he could do about it but it affected his results.
Walter Neff
18-10-2015
Originally Posted by alexandree:
“He was obviously very upset that he messed up, and when the following couple of dancers went up to see Claudia he didn't appear to be there, I thought he may have been somewhere quiet until he composed himself,
Poor lad, I really felt for him,”

Me too, but there will always be certain people who pick on Jay whatever the poor guy does. Fortunately that mistake (which I never even noticed) should not prevent him getting safely through this evening.
Cally's mum
18-10-2015
One-word answer to the CT ... Sorry, OP.

NO.
duckylucky
18-10-2015
What a daft thread . Not only is Jay a good dancer now but he is so good that he can build in mistakes into a very quick dance to throw us off !!! Hilarious reasoning
humpty dumpty
18-10-2015
I find the idea that Jay deliberately made mistakes in his routine ridiculous.

What I find surprising, is that despite some great performances last night (Georgia and Katie) Jay is topping the poll on here this week having made so many mistakes? :/
Fred.
18-10-2015
Look at his body language when Claudia is showing the judges marks at the end of the sow and Jay is near the bottom - he's afraid he'll be in the dance off.

He nearly cried after that 10 and said he 'didn't want to cry in front of people'. He didn't want to cry this time.

(You can see Claudia thinks he's a pet too)
Tall Paul
18-10-2015
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“I find the idea that Jay deliberately made mistakes in his routine ridiculous.

What I find surprising, is that despite some great performances last night (Georgia and Katie) Jay is topping the poll on here this week having made so many mistakes? :/”

It's probably people who are tweeters, FBers and ppl who post in the comments section in daily mail online who vote for jay in the fave poll. Twitter know a big fat zero in dance terms.
snafu65
18-10-2015
It's a pretty daft assertion to be honest. Yes he made some mistakes, and after last week's jive expectations were sky high, but it wasn't that bad. If you look at everybody who have ever done well though they were never brilliant every week, there's always at least a couple of times when they disappointed.
BMLisa
18-10-2015
I think it's also a shame that the judges didn't comment on how well he got himself back into it.

When the females go wrong the male pros can manoeuvre them around to get them back into position. (And in some cases we've pretty much seen them pick them up and move them)

Aliona could do nothing but pause and wait for Jay to pick it back up as there's not a chance at that speed she can manoeuvre him back into it.
shrinkingviolet
18-10-2015
It was just timing and a slip. I think if he'd gotten that right it would've been another great night for him.

This is one of the crazier conspiracy theory, contestant bashing thread's that I've seen. 'He faked having a bad night!' If that is the case, that he deliberately put himself off timing and slipped we should just let him win now cause that's talent!
maggie_07
18-10-2015
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“I find the idea that Jay deliberately made mistakes in his routine ridiculous.

What I find surprising, is that despite some great performances last night (Georgia and Katie) Jay is topping the poll on here this week having made so many mistakes? :/”

Perhaps people just vote for their favourite couple regardless of their performance on the night. Jay's performance would have been good without the mistakes so his supporters know he will no doubt be great in other dances but he is not infallible.

I agree about this thread - it should take the prize for Most Stupid Thread of the Week.
Vientre
18-10-2015
Daft thread, last night just put to bed all the ringer posts that we have come to expect every year.
Callmepitstop
18-10-2015
Originally Posted by bettyboom43:
“were a little co-incidental after his perfect performance last week and cries of its unfair, he's too trained to be on the show. Cynical I know but I thought that as soon as he finished. It seemed like the kind of a manufactured move that the x factor would orchestrate to manipulate the public .I didn't think the beeb did that but we've all read about the judges on the voice being asked to spin more and being given lines so it wouldn't surprise me. They have always had stage school trained dancers on strictly but Jay is more trained than that and they generally don't win and its a bit embarrassing for the BBC now and they dont want to spoil this year's show if someone is getting 10s in week 3. Last night made it look like last week was fluke and he isn't that perfect. Someone that had that much technique last week and can do turns as perfectly as Jay would not make that many mistakes and lose his balance as much. I'm sorry, I don't buy it. One over balance maybe, two I don't believe. He doesn't have a day job and has plenty of time and the technique and experience not to make that many mistakes in week 4. Anyone else agree?”

*rolls on floor laughing*
*slaps thighs and wipes tears from eyes*
Seriously?
This is one of the funniest posts I have ever read!!
holly berry
18-10-2015
No, he wasn't faking it, he was forcing it rather than being in the zone.
fatskia
18-10-2015
Originally Posted by Callmepitstop:
“*rolls on floor laughing*
*slaps thighs and wipes tears from eyes*
Seriously?
This is one of the funniest posts I have ever read!!”

Or maybe one of the fishiest?
missfrankiecat
18-10-2015
Originally Posted by Ann_Dancer:
“What a bizarre theory.

To be honest, even without the mistakes it would not have been great. Jay's a very talented dancer, but there are things he needs to sort out in ballroom.”

Exactly. But no more bizarre than some on here who are claiming they couldn't see any mistakes and it all looked great. He had major mistiming issues on the night in a fairly complex routine which he couldn't recover from.
mossy2103
18-10-2015
Originally Posted by Double_Trouble:
“I was wondering how long it would be before we got the "Jay messed up deliberately" conspiracy thread.


...... It look longer than I thought”

If you think about it, it's quite sad really.
Monkseal
18-10-2015
It's Denise van Outen all over again - the celeb's most vocal detractors are the ones making the most overblown claims about what a great and perfect and amazing dancer their target is. In reality he's had one mediocre cha cha that showed promise, one good waltz with posture and performance issues, one amazing jive, and a mess of a quickstep.
bettyboom43
18-10-2015
[quote=komentaightor;80035519]I really dislike the OP.

Maybe s/he has not watched previous series of Strictly and seen good couples having a bad day at the office.

To say that Jay messed up deliberately (with Aliona as a partner?? come on!) is reducing Strictly to a status lower than "I'm a Celebrity, Get me out of here"[/QUOTE

How patronising - I have seen every episode of strictly and also have been to see a lot of dance at the theatre too. I have also watched a lot of reality tv and it is not a shock that someone does something to manipulate the audience. Didn't you read what Tom Jones said about the voice another BBC show, it does happen.
DingDong08
18-10-2015
Originally Posted by bettyboom43:
“were a little co-incidental after his perfect performance last week and cries of its unfair, he's too trained to be on the show. Cynical I know but I thought that as soon as he finished. It seemed like the kind of a manufactured move that the x factor would orchestrate to manipulate the public .I didn't think the beeb did that but we've all read about the judges on the voice being asked to spin more and being given lines so it wouldn't surprise me. They have always had stage school trained dancers on strictly but Jay is more trained than that and they generally don't win and its a bit embarrassing for the BBC now and they dont want to spoil this year's show if someone is getting 10s in week 3. Last night made it look like last week was fluke and he isn't that perfect. Someone that had that much technique last week and can do turns as perfectly as Jay would not make that many mistakes and lose his balance as much. I'm sorry, I don't buy it. One over balance maybe, two I don't believe. He doesn't have a day job and has plenty of time and the technique and experience not to make that many mistakes in week 4. Anyone else agree?”

I have two words: P*ss. Off.
bettyboom43
18-10-2015
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“If you think about it, it's quite sad really.”

Actually what is sad is that someone can't see to have an opinion without everyone being so rude. It is my opinion and that is the point of a forum, that people voice different opinions, whether you like it not. Of course give your disagreeing opinion, you don't have to call it sad, it us just different to yours.
bettyboom43
18-10-2015
Originally Posted by DingDong08:
“I have two words: P*ss. Off.”

I have two words to - grow up!

It's an opinion, get over it.
coppertop1
18-10-2015
Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“It's probably people who are tweeters, FBers and ppl who post in the comments section in daily mail online who vote for jay in the fave poll. Twitter know a big fat zero in dance terms. ”

OMG I use FB burn the witch !
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