To win SCD you have to be great at ballroom and latin. Tom chambers was good at both. Wheras jay seems to be a one trick pony to me currently.

I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt. Having said that though, perhaps we should look into your REAL motive for starting this thread!!

I think it is more about the BBC than Jay. I have met a few of the apprentice contestants over the years and that show is very edited and manipulated to make them make mistakes and look stupid. For example, before they make calls to each other , they may have to wait 30 mins for a camera man to be withborh groups to film it, so a task where there is a lot to do in a day, may make a group waste time waiting for cameramen, rather than doing the task. They are not allowed to talk in the cars without a cameraman present to capture everything said. Manipulation happens on tv shows, not so shocking.

They ran away with a bunch of commas.

I agree. I was in a quandry with the favourite poll. Jay and Aliona are my favourite couple, but Georgia and Giovanni's was my favourite dance this week (and I used my internet votes on Anita and Jamelia! )

Which is what? No motive at all, just giving an opinion. Perhaps you should think about the way you think, to assume I have a motive. It is a Saturday entertainment show that has had some bad press in a week that the BBC has been talking about axing shows. What possible motive could I have. I am an armchair viewer not the producer of the x factor. Really!

No, I think that's a conspiracy theory too far. I'm not an expert, but it would surely be very difficult to attempt such a difficult routine and then add-in a few deliberate mistakes?
He must also be a very good actor (which is unlikely) to appear so disappointed and shell-shocked afterwards.
Sometimes the simplest explanations are the correct ones. It was a challenging routine and he just got it wrong on the night. Didn't Aliona say that it had been near perfect in dress rehearsal ? They definitely set out to nail it.

Oh dear! Not nice to be doubted is it?

Aw! So really who is it that is really not doing as well as you would like? Is it that Clifton boy, or perhaps the 12 year going on 50 from East Enders? Or maybe you're a Brenda fan?

It is just not working out the way you want so you feel compelled to throw Jay under the bus - and any old daft story will do? Really?

Thing is, people like him and he can dance. Live with it. I think a good bracing walk in the fresh air might help too?

Maybe. Finally a response without being angry!

...and the apostrophes. I think it's a conspiracy...

Jay is my favourite but is it wrong that I weren't too bothered by the mistakes he made as if he was the trained dancer everybody keeps making out him to be because if he was he would have excelled at that dance yesterday. Also think that he would be good at both Latin and ballroom but at the moment he seems to be better at Latin than ballroom

I think people are using bad grammar on purpose to shake off accusations they may have had an educashun. Innit.

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It's one thing for TPTB to manipulate the audience (i.e. music, costumes, performance order, VTs, judges' comments/marks) - we know that goes on in shows with a public vote. However, the idea that competing celebs and their pros would deliberately perform dances containing glaring errors is laughable!

Apart from anything else, actually doing something with deliberate mistakes is difficult - I suspect that most pros would struggle to do it, and make the mistakes look completely genuine, so a celeb wouldn't stand a chance of pulling it off! Especially when you factor in that Jay would have to have deliberately messed up whilst Aliona was doing the dance correctly!

Like it.
I saw wot you done there.

I'm not totally one dimensional as a forumite, I do have a better side of me and not just an argumentative side to my nature so am multi faceted. That's how you should be really, otherwise the forum would be a bore, I can have a banter side to me as well.

Poor Jay. I wish people would give the bloke a break. Last week some of the forum was saying that he is a trained dancer and shouldn't be allowed on the show and now he is being accused for faking bad dancing.

I hope hes not reading this drivel. However, its nice to see that the vast majority on this thread have disagreed with the OPs ridiculous conspiracy theory.

Yes, but we saw enough to guess that it would have been a great performance last night without the mistakes. A one-trick-pony would surely have played it safe, and that's something Aliona will never do. I like that attitude, if he fails, he'll fail in style

I said used FB I have never seen anything on my newsfeed about Jay whether or not it was written by his mother

Perhaps I had better throw some water over myself

I prefer camilla to aliona. At least camilla could do stuff with her celebs like acting coaches, taking people to the sets that they work in like toms holby surroundings at the time and camilla created choreography that the viewers could understand and relate to easily.

Ah yes, indeed.

But then apostrophes tend to get everywhere, ornery little buggers. They feel misunderstood

Yeah, because, like, it gives 'em street cred and makes 'em sound like well HARD.

However, scribbling down an unconscious stream of bizarre thought, without pause for breath, highlights just how your mind actually works, and is far, far more dangerous

*snort*

How old are you - 12?

Totally agree about your comments regarding Peter Andre, I do hope he gets slot number 2 next week.


In a word . NO

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