Four in a row for Jenny 
The Chase (ITV) (Part 4)
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Originally Posted by StanTheOstrich:
“Yes, I know.”
“Yes, I know.”
So you're summising we're all thick up here?
Which hotbed of intellect do you hail from Stanley?
Originally Posted by richie4eva:
“Four in a row for Jenny”
“Four in a row for Jenny
”
Yes, but not much of a team today. They scored only thirteen between them in their Cashbuilders, and only one made the Final Chase. Admittedly nobody went for the lower offer, which at least one of them (the one that got zero) probably should have.
And on Friday she again had to beat only one player in the Final Chase, who if I remember got only eight steps or something.
it would be interesting to know how the production team puts the teams together. Presumably they try for a mix of good players, average and not so good on each team.
it would also be interesting to know how they decide which teams face which Chaser.
But I doubt we'll ever find out.
Originally Posted by Mark1974:
“So you're summising we're all thick up here?
Which hotbed of intellect do you hail from Stanley?”
“So you're summising we're all thick up here?
Which hotbed of intellect do you hail from Stanley?”
Not at all. I was merely responding to a post that you had previously made.
Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“Yes, but not much of a team today. They scored only thirteen between them in their Cashbuilders, and only one made the Final Chase. Admittedly nobody went for the lower offer, which at least one of them (the one that got zero) probably should have.
And on Friday she again had to beat only one player in the Final Chase, who if I remember got only eight steps or something.
it would be interesting to know how the production team puts the teams together. Presumably they try for a mix of good players, average and not so good on each team.
it would also be interesting to know how they decide which teams face which Chaser.
But I doubt we'll ever find out.”
“Yes, but not much of a team today. They scored only thirteen between them in their Cashbuilders, and only one made the Final Chase. Admittedly nobody went for the lower offer, which at least one of them (the one that got zero) probably should have.
And on Friday she again had to beat only one player in the Final Chase, who if I remember got only eight steps or something.
it would be interesting to know how the production team puts the teams together. Presumably they try for a mix of good players, average and not so good on each team.
it would also be interesting to know how they decide which teams face which Chaser.
But I doubt we'll ever find out.”
If you look at the One Question Shootout site they have statistics for all of the series and provides some undeniable evidence that Jenny gets the weakest teams. For example the last 3 teams she's faced they've scored 14, 8 and 6 in the final chase. When she first started off in series 9 she was facing good teams with scores like 21, 17, 18 etc, but she's still the only chaser to have NOT lost in this series, because of the terrible quality of her teams! I'm sure it's no coincidence.
Originally Posted by StanTheOstrich:
“Not at all. I was merely responding to a post that you had previously made.”
“Not at all. I was merely responding to a post that you had previously made.”
I get you. Funny sod! 😃😃
Originally Posted by Lily_Smith:
“If you look at the One Question Shootout site they have statistics for all of the series and provides some undeniable evidence that Jenny gets the weakest teams. For example the last 3 teams she's faced they've scored 14, 8 and 6 in the final chase. When she first started off in series 9 she was facing good teams with scores like 21, 17, 18 etc, but she's still the only chaser to have NOT lost in this series, because of the terrible quality of her teams! I'm sure it's no coincidence.”
“If you look at the One Question Shootout site they have statistics for all of the series and provides some undeniable evidence that Jenny gets the weakest teams. For example the last 3 teams she's faced they've scored 14, 8 and 6 in the final chase. When she first started off in series 9 she was facing good teams with scores like 21, 17, 18 etc, but she's still the only chaser to have NOT lost in this series, because of the terrible quality of her teams! I'm sure it's no coincidence.”
Jenny has lost in this series in episode 22 in the middle of May.
Originally Posted by StanTheOstrich:
“Jenny has lost in this series in episode 22 in the middle of May.”
“Jenny has lost in this series in episode 22 in the middle of May.”
This was a series 9 episode, if you're talking about the one on 16th May 2016. You can tell by the hairstyle. Look at the One Question Shootout website and it'll tell you the details there.
The confusing thing is that some episodes that were labelled Series 10 were actually recorded in 2015 and so are not counted as being part of this series.
The proper Series 10 episodes are the ones where she has the new hairstyle with the beehive and the side pony.
Originally Posted by Lily_Smith:
“This was a series 9 episode, if you're talking about the one on 16th May 2016. You can tell by the hairstyle. Look at the One Question Shootout website and it'll tell you the details there.
The confusing thing is that some episodes that were labelled Series 10 were actually recorded in 2015 and so are not counted as being part of this series.
The proper Series 10 episodes are the ones where she has the new hairstyle with the beehive and the side pony.”
“This was a series 9 episode, if you're talking about the one on 16th May 2016. You can tell by the hairstyle. Look at the One Question Shootout website and it'll tell you the details there.
The confusing thing is that some episodes that were labelled Series 10 were actually recorded in 2015 and so are not counted as being part of this series.
The proper Series 10 episodes are the ones where she has the new hairstyle with the beehive and the side pony.”
I disagree. If it is first shown during series 10 then it is a series 10 episode.
Jenny finally has to try and catch a score higher than four. And she does it. With very hard questions too like "what is 3 times 2?"
Originally Posted by StanTheOstrich:
“I disagree. If it is first shown during series 10 then it is a series 10 episode.”
“I disagree. If it is first shown during series 10 then it is a series 10 episode.”
It's up to you how you decide to interpret it, but it doesn't change the fact that Jenny is the only chaser to have not lost a game in the recordings from 2016 (excluding the 2015 recordings that are part of series 10) and this is because Jenny has had very easy teams to beat.
Originally Posted by Lily_Smith:
“If you look at the One Question Shootout site they have statistics for all of the series and provides some undeniable evidence that Jenny gets the weakest teams. For example the last 3 teams she's faced they've scored 14, 8 and 6 in the final chase. When she first started off in series 9 she was facing good teams with scores like 21, 17, 18 etc, but she's still the only chaser to have NOT lost in this series, because of the terrible quality of her teams! I'm sure it's no coincidence.”
“If you look at the One Question Shootout site they have statistics for all of the series and provides some undeniable evidence that Jenny gets the weakest teams. For example the last 3 teams she's faced they've scored 14, 8 and 6 in the final chase. When she first started off in series 9 she was facing good teams with scores like 21, 17, 18 etc, but she's still the only chaser to have NOT lost in this series, because of the terrible quality of her teams! I'm sure it's no coincidence.”
The way to work out if Jenny is really given weaker teams is to take the average of the Cashbuilders of the teams that they face. This is independent of the Chaser. After all, suppose you had an infallible Chaser that never got a question wrong in the head to head. They would knock more players out, thus scores in the Final Chase would be lower on average. It would look as if they were facing weaker teams than they really were. The real reason for the lower Final Chase totals was just that they were knocking more players out before the Final Chase.
Certainly today the total of only thirteen in the Cashbuilders for the four players was very low, that's only just over £3,000 each.
You would need quite a big sample size of the Cashbuilder totals to test the hypothesis that Jenny gets given weaker teams, or at least is being given weaker teams than she was when she first started on the show (to improve her performance) and work out if the difference (if there was one) was statistically significant, or was just as likely to be down to random chance.
I'll leave it to somebody else to take on the task.
You also have to remember that the order in which we see the shows is not necessarily the order they were filmed. There may be later shows when Jenny faces much higher totals, either in the Cashbuilder or the Final Chase.
Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“The way to work out if Jenny is really given weaker teams is to take the average of the Cashbuilders of the teams that they face. This is independent of the Chaser. After all, suppose you had an infallible Chaser that never got a question wrong in the head to head. They would knock more players out, thus scores in the Final Chase would be lower on average. It would look as if they were facing weaker teams than they really were. The real reason for the lower Final Chase totals was just that they were knocking more players out before the Final Chase.
Certainly today the total of only thirteen in the Cashbuilders for the four players was very low, that's only just over £3,000 each.
You would need quite a big sample size of the Cashbuilder totals to test the hypothesis that Jenny gets given weaker teams, or at least is being given weaker teams than she was when she first started on the show (to improve her performance) and work out if the difference (if there was one) was statistically significant, or was just as likely to be down to random chance.
I'll leave it to somebody else to take on the task.
You also have to remember that the order in which we see the shows is not necessarily the order they were filmed. There may be later shows when Jenny faces much higher totals, either in the Cashbuilder or the Final Chase.”
“The way to work out if Jenny is really given weaker teams is to take the average of the Cashbuilders of the teams that they face. This is independent of the Chaser. After all, suppose you had an infallible Chaser that never got a question wrong in the head to head. They would knock more players out, thus scores in the Final Chase would be lower on average. It would look as if they were facing weaker teams than they really were. The real reason for the lower Final Chase totals was just that they were knocking more players out before the Final Chase.
Certainly today the total of only thirteen in the Cashbuilders for the four players was very low, that's only just over £3,000 each.
You would need quite a big sample size of the Cashbuilder totals to test the hypothesis that Jenny gets given weaker teams, or at least is being given weaker teams than she was when she first started on the show (to improve her performance) and work out if the difference (if there was one) was statistically significant, or was just as likely to be down to random chance.
I'll leave it to somebody else to take on the task.
You also have to remember that the order in which we see the shows is not necessarily the order they were filmed. There may be later shows when Jenny faces much higher totals, either in the Cashbuilder or the Final Chase.”
One thing we do know is the success rate of each chaser at catching players in the head-to-head chases (in Series 10)
Mark: 17/44 (39%)
Shaun: 20/44 (45%)
Anne: 15/44 (34%)
Paul: 14/44 (32%)
Jenny: 12/24 (50%)
Interesting to see Jenny has the highest rate although this doesn't really help the theory.. if Jenny is catching more then that could suggest her teams are weaker, or it could suggest that Jenny is the best in the head-to-head chases but I think we all agree that she is the weakest (alongside Shaun), so I don't really know which way to turn with this.
Originally Posted by Lily_Smith:
“One thing we do know is the success rate of each chaser at catching players in the head-to-head chases (in Series 10)
Mark: 17/44 (39%)
Shaun: 20/44 (45%)
Anne: 15/44 (34%)
Paul: 14/44 (32%)
Jenny: 12/24 (50%)
Interesting to see Jenny has the highest rate although this doesn't really help the theory.. if Jenny is catching more then that could suggest her teams are weaker, or it could suggest that Jenny is the best in the head-to-head chases but I think we all agree that she is the weakest (alongside Shaun), so I don't really know which way to turn with this.”
“One thing we do know is the success rate of each chaser at catching players in the head-to-head chases (in Series 10)
Mark: 17/44 (39%)
Shaun: 20/44 (45%)
Anne: 15/44 (34%)
Paul: 14/44 (32%)
Jenny: 12/24 (50%)
Interesting to see Jenny has the highest rate although this doesn't really help the theory.. if Jenny is catching more then that could suggest her teams are weaker, or it could suggest that Jenny is the best in the head-to-head chases but I think we all agree that she is the weakest (alongside Shaun), so I don't really know which way to turn with this.”
There is no alongside, she is below Shaun.
Originally Posted by Lily_Smith:
“One thing we do know is the success rate of each chaser at catching players in the head-to-head chases (in Series 10)
Mark: 17/44 (39%)
Shaun: 20/44 (45%)
Anne: 15/44 (34%)
Paul: 14/44 (32%)
Jenny: 12/24 (50%)
Interesting to see Jenny has the highest rate although this doesn't really help the theory.. if Jenny is catching more then that could suggest her teams are weaker, or it could suggest that Jenny is the best in the head-to-head chases but I think we all agree that she is the weakest (alongside Shaun), so I don't really know which way to turn with this.”
“One thing we do know is the success rate of each chaser at catching players in the head-to-head chases (in Series 10)
Mark: 17/44 (39%)
Shaun: 20/44 (45%)
Anne: 15/44 (34%)
Paul: 14/44 (32%)
Jenny: 12/24 (50%)
Interesting to see Jenny has the highest rate although this doesn't really help the theory.. if Jenny is catching more then that could suggest her teams are weaker, or it could suggest that Jenny is the best in the head-to-head chases but I think we all agree that she is the weakest (alongside Shaun), so I don't really know which way to turn with this.”
Well, Jenny's sample size (24 players ) is only about half of the others, so it may not be a significant difference. As I say the best way to do it would be to add up the Cashbuilder totals of all the players they have faced and take an average, but this information may not be easy to find, you might have to watch all the episodes again, and I doubt they're all still available. The Chase Wikia page only gives the number of players who got through and the total they were playing for, it doesn't give all the players' Cashbuilder totals (including those who got knocked out).
interestingly the One Question Shoot out site confirms what I had suspected, that seat 3 has the lowest average Cashbuilder total, and has had consistently over the last five years. Seat 4 is slightly higher. There is not much difference between seats 1 and 2 as to the highest. However there is not as much difference between the averages of all four seats as I would have thought.
Obviously the order that they put the players in is not random.
Originally Posted by Benjamin Sisko:
“There is no alongside, she is below Shaun.”
“There is no alongside, she is below Shaun.”
You're right, she's not in the same league as any of the chasers but I'd say she's nearer to Shaun, where some days they do very well and some days they can do terribly.
Originally Posted by Sarahsaurus:
“Well, Jenny's sample size (24 players ) is only about half of the others, so it may not be a significant difference. As I say the best way to do it would be to add up the Cashbuilder totals of all the players they have faced and take an average, but this information may not be easy to find, you might have to watch all the episodes again, and I doubt they're all still available. The Chase Wikia page only gives the number of players who got through and the total they were playing for, it doesn't give all the players' Cashbuilder totals (including those who got knocked out).
interestingly the One Question Shoot out site confirms what I had suspected, that seat 3 has the lowest average Cashbuilder total, and has had consistently over the last five years. Seat 4 is slightly higher. There is not much difference between seats 1 and 2 as to the highest. However there is not as much difference between the averages of all four seats as I would have thought.
Obviously the order that they put the players in is not random.”
“Well, Jenny's sample size (24 players ) is only about half of the others, so it may not be a significant difference. As I say the best way to do it would be to add up the Cashbuilder totals of all the players they have faced and take an average, but this information may not be easy to find, you might have to watch all the episodes again, and I doubt they're all still available. The Chase Wikia page only gives the number of players who got through and the total they were playing for, it doesn't give all the players' Cashbuilder totals (including those who got knocked out).
interestingly the One Question Shoot out site confirms what I had suspected, that seat 3 has the lowest average Cashbuilder total, and has had consistently over the last five years. Seat 4 is slightly higher. There is not much difference between seats 1 and 2 as to the highest. However there is not as much difference between the averages of all four seats as I would have thought.
Obviously the order that they put the players in is not random.”
Yep that's the problem with Jenny, there isn't enough data on her yet, and like you said, the episodes aren't available online.
Who knows, it could just be a coincidence that she's faced these weak teams, only time will tell.
Originally Posted by Lily_Smith:
“This was a series 9 episode, if you're talking about the one on 16th May 2016. You can tell by the hairstyle. Look at the One Question Shootout website and it'll tell you the details there.
The confusing thing is that some episodes that were labelled Series 10 were actually recorded in 2015 and so are not counted as being part of this series.
The proper Series 10 episodes are the ones where she has the new hairstyle with the beehive and the side pony.”
“This was a series 9 episode, if you're talking about the one on 16th May 2016. You can tell by the hairstyle. Look at the One Question Shootout website and it'll tell you the details there.
The confusing thing is that some episodes that were labelled Series 10 were actually recorded in 2015 and so are not counted as being part of this series.
The proper Series 10 episodes are the ones where she has the new hairstyle with the beehive and the side pony.”
Can you link the website?
Originally Posted by Francis_Chu:
“Can you link the website?”
“Can you link the website?”
http://onequestionshootout.xyz
At the bottom of that page there are statistics for all the chasers and from all the different series.
The person who runs it does a good job of keeping it up to date.
Originally Posted by Lily_Smith:
“It's up to you how you decide to interpret it, but it doesn't change the fact that Jenny is the only chaser to have not lost a game in the recordings from 2016 (excluding the 2015 recordings that are part of series 10) and this is because Jenny has had very easy teams to beat.”
“It's up to you how you decide to interpret it, but it doesn't change the fact that Jenny is the only chaser to have not lost a game in the recordings from 2016 (excluding the 2015 recordings that are part of series 10) and this is because Jenny has had very easy teams to beat.”
The people who organise the episodes run this show very well. Despite this, they've slotted in 2 extra jenny losses from 2015 in recent months to balance out her results.
Originally Posted by ChaseNo1_Fan:
“The people who organise the episodes run this show very well. Despite this, they've slotted in 2 extra jenny losses from 2015 in recent months to balance out her results.”
“The people who organise the episodes run this show very well. Despite this, they've slotted in 2 extra jenny losses from 2015 in recent months to balance out her results.
”
When were they supposed to show Jenny's losses then? Are they supposed to have pretended they didn't happen? Don't really understand the point you are trying to make.
Originally Posted by Lily_Smith:
“It's up to you how you decide to interpret it, but it doesn't change the fact that Jenny is the only chaser to have not lost a game in the recordings from 2016 (excluding the 2015 recordings that are part of series 10) and this is because Jenny has had very easy teams to beat.”
“It's up to you how you decide to interpret it, but it doesn't change the fact that Jenny is the only chaser to have not lost a game in the recordings from 2016 (excluding the 2015 recordings that are part of series 10) and this is because Jenny has had very easy teams to beat.”
It is not an interpretation. As I said, if the episode is first shown in a particular series then that is the series it belongs to.
Originally Posted by Virgin Queen:
“How can a woman get to Nadia's age without finding out that a merlin is a bird of prey?”
“How can a woman get to Nadia's age without finding out that a merlin is a bird of prey?
”
I find it stupider she just went for a another joke answer like Dumbledore was.
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