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Old 26-02-2016, 12:17
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It's hardly the same comparison. But if the Russian sport is known by it's Russian name throughout the world then yes. But there are none. American football is known as football. It doesn't matter where in the world the question is asked.
That's simply not correct. In the UK American football is known as "American football". Go into any pub and say "did you see the football yesterday?" and unless you have a bunch of American tourists the people will respond about the (Association) football match, American football is such a minority sport here most won't even know there had been an American football match on.

The Americans are free to call sports what they want and as I said in the US Chase "football" would have been correct but not here, in the US "football" to describe the FA Cup final would be wrong and would be given as wrong with the correct answer being "soccer". This is the UK and contestants should use the UK terminology, it wasn't even an American contestant.

It would possibly have been okay for Bradley to ask "more?" but that would have been generous. How do you know the contestant wasn't actually thinking about football rather than American football? Either way they gave the WRONG answer.

If the Russian sport was known in the UK by it's Russian name then that would be a correct answer otherwise it would be incorrect.
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Old 26-02-2016, 12:26
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That's simply not correct. In the UK American football is known as "American football". Go into any pub and say "did you see the football yesterday?" and unless you have a bunch of American tourists the people will respond about the (Association) football match, American football is such a minority sport here most won't even know there had been an American football match on.

The Americans are free to call sports what they want and as I said in the US Chase "football" would have been correct but not here, in the US "football" to describe the FA Cup final would be wrong and would be given as wrong with the correct answer being "soccer". This is the UK and contestants should use the UK terminology, it wasn't even an American contestant.

It would possibly have been okay for Bradley to ask "more?" but that would have been generous. How do you know the contestant wasn't actually thinking about football rather than American football? Either way they gave the WRONG answer.

If the Russian sport was known in the UK by it's Russian name then that would be a correct answer otherwise it would be incorrect.
The question was about an American sport. Several people have pointed this out to you already but you choose to ignore this.
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Old 26-02-2016, 12:29
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That's simply not correct. In the UK American football is known as "American football". Go into any pub and say "did you see the football yesterday?" and unless you have a bunch of American tourists the people will respond about the (Association) football match, American football is such a minority sport here most won't even know there had been an American football match on.

The Americans are free to call sports what they want and as I said in the US Chase "football" would have been correct but not here, in the US "football" to describe the FA Cup final would be wrong and would be given as wrong with the correct answer being "soccer". This is the UK and contestants should use the UK terminology, it wasn't even an American contestant.

It would possibly have been okay for Bradley to ask "more?" but that would have been generous. How do you know the contestant wasn't actually thinking about football rather than American football? Either way they gave the WRONG answer.

If the Russian sport was known in the UK by it's Russian name then that would be a correct answer otherwise it would be incorrect.
No, it is this that is simply not correct. The question clearly stated "what American sport" so the addition of "American" to the answer was both superfluous and unnecessary. It is clear that Soccer is a worldwide sport not an American one, so the distinction had already been made in the question, it did not need to be made again in the answer.
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Old 26-02-2016, 13:34
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The question was about an American sport. Several people have pointed this out to you already but you choose to ignore this.
I certainly haven't deliberately ignored that point. They are here in the UK on a UK quiz show asking about an American sport and expecting the term used here to describe that sport - if they asked "what is the sport that is split between the AFC and the NFC called in the US?" then indeed football would have been the correct answer.

The Americans do play football so football is a viable though incorrect answer because saying "football" in this country means association football not American football.

You seem to be suggesting that if they have a question about another country then you should answer it how they would answer it in that country which frankly is ludicrous - I look forward to a contestant answer a question on Spain in Spanish. Any question should be answered according the the English language as used in the UK.

The rules for the Chase that I've seen seem pretty vague though I expect there are more detailed ones available. If indeed the rules say something like "when answering a question about a country then it should be answered as they would answer it in that country" then I fully accept that football should have been accepted but I doubt that is the rule. I suspect the adjudicator knows the rules and made the decision that the correct answer was American football not football.
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Old 26-02-2016, 13:45
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No, it is this that is simply not correct. The question clearly stated "what American sport" so the addition of "American" to the answer was both superfluous and unnecessary. It is clear that Soccer is a worldwide sport not an American one, so the distinction had already been made in the question, it did not need to be made again in the answer.
Knowing what is and isn't an American sport is part of the question. I think that the four main American sports are American football, baseball, basketball and ice hockey though there will be others and it may not be that all of those are indeed "American sports" as I'm ignorant of the origins of some of those sports. I do know that football is not an American sport (in origin, did the question specify in origin?) so I would use that knowledge to rule out football but rule in American football and that would have been my answer.
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Old 26-02-2016, 14:23
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Knowing what is and isn't an American sport is part of the question. I think that the four main American sports are American football, baseball, basketball and ice hockey though there will be others and it may not be that all of those are indeed "American sports" as I'm ignorant of the origins of some of those sports. I do know that football is not an American sport (in origin, did the question specify in origin?) so I would use that knowledge to rule out football but rule in American football and that would have been my answer.
The answer I would want to give if I was in that situation was "football", but I may well have said "American football" just in case Bradley was in a pedantic mood which he clearly was on this occasion, though on other occasions recently he has been very generous in accepting some answers. However, this doesn't negate the point that "football" in itself was clearly an acceptable and correct answer and if I had said that and it had been disallowed I would definitely have taken it up with the adjudicator. I assume you wouldn't expect an "American" qualifier for basketball, baseball and ice hockey as an answer, so just because the UK has a different version of football doesn't make the answer incorrect.
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Old 26-02-2016, 16:06
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The answer I would want to give if I was in that situation was "football", but I may well have said "American football" just in case Bradley was in a pedantic mood which he clearly was on this occasion, though on other occasions recently he has been very generous in accepting some answers. However, this doesn't negate the point that "football" in itself was clearly an acceptable and correct answer and if I had said that and it had been disallowed I would definitely have taken it up with the adjudicator. I assume you wouldn't expect an "American" qualifier for basketball, baseball and ice hockey as an answer, so just because the UK has a different version of football doesn't make the answer incorrect.
It really isn't clearly an acceptable and correct answer or we wouldn't be having this argument. The correct answer by the language used in this country is American football. In this country where the question was asked we play football with a spherical ball and American football with the eggish shaped ball.

I wouldn't expect an American qualifier for any of the others as baseball and basketball are what they are called here, I would expect "ice hockey" rather than hockey though you would obviously allow "hockey" because that's what they call it in the US. I don't understand why you find it so hard to understand that the sport is called "American football" in the UK not football. I hate the term soccer but if I was on the US chase I would expect to get called wrong if I said football for the FA Cup final as they call the game soccer and football means something else.
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Old 26-02-2016, 16:12
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I wouldn't expect an American qualifier for any of the others as baseball and basketball are what they are called here, I would expect "ice hockey" rather than hockey though you would obviously allow "hockey" because that's what they call it in the US. I don't understand why you find it so hard to understand that the sport is called "American football" in the UK not football. I hate the term soccer but if I was on the US chase I would expect to get called wrong if I said football for the FA Cup final as they call the game soccer and football means something else.
I'm of the opinion if the question says "which American sport" then football on it's own should be accepted.
In your example the question might be "which Ice sport" and the person gives the answer Hockey. To say incorrect I needed to hear Ice Hockey is ridiculous.
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Old 26-02-2016, 16:16
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It really isn't clearly an acceptable and correct answer or we wouldn't be having this argument. The correct answer by the language used in this country is American football. In this country where the question was asked we play football with a spherical ball and American football with the eggish shaped ball.

I wouldn't expect an American qualifier for any of the others as baseball and basketball are what they are called here, I would expect "ice hockey" rather than hockey though you would obviously allow "hockey" because that's what they call it in the US. I don't understand why you find it so hard to understand that the sport is called "American football" in the UK not football. I hate the term soccer but if I was on the US chase I would expect to get called wrong if I said football for the FA Cup final as they call the game soccer and football means something else.
Actually I have a recollection that Bradley has accepted hockey as an answer instead of ice hockey! But apart from this, for whatever reason, you are completely ignoring the valid points I and others have raised, in particular the point that as "American" was in the question there was absolutely no need whatsoever to repeat the word in the answer. But I guess I am not going to change your mind and your points certainly aren't going to change mine.
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Old 26-02-2016, 16:17
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I'm of the opinion if the question says "which American sport" then football on it's own should be accepted.
In your example the question might be "which Ice sport" and the person gives the answer Hockey. To say incorrect I needed to hear Ice Hockey is ridiculous.
Exactly!
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Old 26-02-2016, 17:04
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Old 26-02-2016, 17:06
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This guy is so full of himself. Glad he's gone. Far too cocky and full of his own importance.
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Old 26-02-2016, 17:09
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This guy is so full of himself.
And Paul got him, a small sense of satisfaction there
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Old 26-02-2016, 17:09
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I'd love to be 1st on the Chase when Bradley asks ...
"Which chaser would you like to face?"

"Jenny"

"Why's that?"

"Because she's a bit rubbish"
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Old 26-02-2016, 17:14
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And Paul got him, a small sense of satisfaction there
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Old 26-02-2016, 17:22
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I'd love to be 1st on the Chase when Bradley asks ...
"Which chaser would you like to face?"

"Jenny"

"Why's that?"

"Because she's a bit rubbish"
And then she'd beat you
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Old 26-02-2016, 17:30
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Amber is very slowing at answering questions so she'll be hoping that Charlotte is a bit of a quiz genius.
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Old 26-02-2016, 17:52
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Old 26-02-2016, 17:53
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7 right + 2 = poor.
I got 12 on my own (and I've been checking the quality of the homebrew).
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Old 26-02-2016, 17:55
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Old 26-02-2016, 18:00
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The woman from Durham didn't know the River Tyne...............shocking!
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Old 26-02-2016, 18:59
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"Which country was bombarded in the Battle of Copenhagen?"

"France"

I just... can't! Words fail me!
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Old 26-02-2016, 19:03
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No, it is this that is simply not correct. The question clearly stated "what American sport" so the addition of "American" to the answer was both superfluous and unnecessary. It is clear that Soccer is a worldwide sport not an American one, so the distinction had already been made in the question, it did not need to be made again in the answer.
Spot on.
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Old 26-02-2016, 19:18
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"Which country was bombarded in the Battle of Copenhagen?"

"France"

I just... can't! Words fail me!
Wasn't the question something like "In 1807 which country's navy was destroyed in the Battle of Copenhagen??"

1. Just because a battle is named after a city it doesn't necessarily mean that people from that city or the nation which the city is in were involved. Take for example the Battle of Zeebrugge in World War One. Zeebrugge is a Belgian town but the battle was between the British and German navies.

2. 1807 would obviously have been during the Napoleonic Wars so France is not necessarily that silly an answer.
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Old 26-02-2016, 19:19
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I'm of the opinion if the question says "which American sport" then football on it's own should be accepted.
In your example the question might be "which Ice sport" and the person gives the answer Hockey. To say incorrect I needed to hear Ice Hockey is ridiculous.
If the person answers football then according to your argument they have two chances of being correct either with football or American football, two totally different sports. Do you even know if the contestant meant football or American football?

All I can do is repeat the obvious which is when somebody in this country says football they mean football played with a round ball not the pointy ball which always has the qualifier. If there wasn't a much more popular sport in this country called football then there wouldn't be any need to qualify the answer and football would have been okay but there is - gridiron would have been a perfectly acceptable answer as there is no equivalent here.
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