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Old 20-11-2015, 08:26
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The voice of sanity at last. I have to say I dislike Connie more than any of the others, and for that reason wouldn't consider staying at his place - regardless of its value for money.

In fact the only place I'd stay is at the Fleece - the couple seemed nice people and their place was pleasant and good value.
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Old 20-11-2015, 09:00
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You may well be in the minority, I have no sympathy for her, she is certainly old enough to know better.
But we are never too old to learn lessons, I didn't take to her at all but if she takes anything on board this week who knows, perhaps it will help her? I did say "IF" of course.
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Old 20-11-2015, 09:53
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I like Connie this week.
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Old 20-11-2015, 10:25
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I think that's a really ugly thing to do - she presumably comes last with a large underpayment by Connie and perhaps others... yet he continues to put the boot in by saying it was even worse than shown... she may have upped her standards but he continues to try and damage her business. I thought Melinda was pretty awful but to continue to put the boot in is unnecessary.

Pensions? interest from investments...? and for the purposes of 4iaB, we don't need to know.

1) Yeah you do. I had cleaners when I was in the UK - I was perfectly capable of identifying who was doing a good job, when their standards started to slip (boredom and complacency) and when they needed to wear their specs to clean as they no longer saw cobwebs, etc, clearly. Cleaning isn't difficult but you need to be painstaking and consistent whether you're doing it yourself or paying someone else. Melinda's painstakingness was not great.

2) I wouldn't watch. I don't think he was magnanimous as much as seizing the opportunity to show her up (as if she wasn't already doing that effectively already) and score (or deduct) points. Remarks like the FB one reproduced above points to that. He ran a good business but I didn't like him at all and for that reason wouldn't stay at Bubbles.

3) Either he knew she wouldn't listen... or perhaps he was paying her back for something she'd done previously that seriously hissed him off... Or, of course, he may have been a seriously crap hotel inspector.
He said it on his own facebook page not on 4 in a bed page, so basically he can say what he likes. I didnt think what he said was bad just the truth, no worse then what they boys last week said about the place they stayed in Norfolk, BUT they were saying it on the Fan page for everyone to see.

I dont think he was putting the boot in at all...saying it like it is.

You can say what you like about his helping with the breakfast but if he hadnt she would have had a royal fail, and if you listened to him on the screen, he did say he saw her in a more vulnerable light.

I think she got what she deserved basically if you behave like a knob you can expect to be treated like one.
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Old 20-11-2015, 10:37
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I'm just surprised that she was so picky with all the other places when, having seen them she must have realised that her own was seriously sub par.

As it was, going last she had a chance to rush home, dig out the marigolds etc and blitz the rooms she was renting within an inch of their lives, even if she was up all night doing it.

Being as inexperienced as she clearly is, you'd think she would have held off going on the show until she had whipped her place into shape. It's not as though anyone these days can say they aren't aware of what happens on the show - it's been on for years and is repeated often, even if she hadn't seen it before agreeing to appear, she could have caught up with it and taken some corrective action.

From what's been said - we now know that the producers pick the groups to ensure some conflict, and encourage the competitors to be super picky. That said - the numpties should be careful about what they say as every statement can be twisted, shown out of context or otherwise manipulated to make them look like idiots.

If nothing else, going on the programme is a wonderful opportunity to showcase their place on national almost prime time TV, especially on their own night when the opportunity is there to really show potential customers what they have to offer, and it's a shame that an awful lot of them don't grasp the chance to do so
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Old 20-11-2015, 11:30
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I think it was rather foolhardy of Melinda to appear on a national TV programme in which she talks about how long her B&B has been open when we know she hasn't obtained the requisite permission. In her situation I'd lie low and keep quiet.
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Old 20-11-2015, 11:34
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I'm just surprised that she was so picky with all the other places when, having seen them she must have realised that her own was seriously sub par.

As it was, going last she had a chance to rush home, dig out the marigolds etc and blitz the rooms she was renting within an inch of their lives, even if she was up all night doing it.

Being as inexperienced as she clearly is, you'd think she would have held off going on the show until she had whipped her place into shape. It's not as though anyone these days can say they aren't aware of what happens on the show - it's been on for years and is repeated often, even if she hadn't seen it before agreeing to appear, she could have caught up with it and taken some corrective action.

From what's been said - we now know that the producers pick the groups to ensure some conflict, and encourage the competitors to be super picky. That said - the numpties should be careful about what they say as every statement can be twisted, shown out of context or otherwise manipulated to make them look like idiots.

If nothing else, going on the programme is a wonderful opportunity to showcase their place on national almost prime time TV, especially on their own night when the opportunity is there to really show potential customers what they have to offer, and it's a shame that an awful lot of them don't grasp the chance to do so
It also highlights just how many charlatans there are out there in the B&B business and how it seems to be too easy to set one up and fleece the public. I've seen a few on this show, Melinda for one who should not be considering herself as a business. The other example that comes immediately to mind is The Eden Guest House run by those two jokers Lynne and Ziggy. Their place was an absolute dump for which they were charging high-end rates simply because of the locale. I do recall the original Hotel Inspector, Ruth Watson, saying how it was far too easy for people to set up B&B's in the UK and charge money for substandard accommodations.
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Old 20-11-2015, 13:14
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It also highlights just how many charlatans there are out there in the B&B business and how it seems to be too easy to set one up and fleece the public. I've seen a few on this show, Melinda for one who should not be considering herself as a business. The other example that comes immediately to mind is The Eden Guest House run by those two jokers Lynne and Ziggy. Their place was an absolute dump for which they were charging high-end rates simply because of the locale. I do recall the original Hotel Inspector, Ruth Watson, saying how it was far too easy for people to set up B&B's in the UK and charge money for substandard accommodations.
Do you remember the one where the guest had to clamber up a loft ladder to his room? That couldn't have been legal
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Old 20-11-2015, 13:58
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...The other example that comes immediately to mind is The Eden Guest House run by those two jokers Lynne and Ziggy...
I think they were on the last series of The Hotel Inspector and were doing ok now.
It was Alex not Ruth. If it was them I'm thinking of their son has joined the business and it's much more professional.

Do you remember the one where the guest had to clamber up a loft ladder to his room? That couldn't have been legal
That was in East Sussex another fairly hapless host who could offer champagne at breakfast, but who couldn't manage the cooking.
If I remember that one and it's the one you mean, she also climbed another ladder and spent the night in a loft room accessed through the room she let the man and his partner stay in (which was her own bedroom)

I think some people must just go on TV for a laugh and others go for publicity for a fledgling business instead of getting some experience and refining it first.
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Old 20-11-2015, 14:08
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The voice of sanity at last. I have to say I dislike Connie more than any of the others, and for that reason wouldn't consider staying at his place - regardless of its value for money.

In fact the only place I'd stay is at the Fleece - the couple seemed nice people and their place was pleasant and good value.
LMAO

If disagreeing with you (which I do) is indicative of being insane - that's fine by me.

Connie, for all his faults, was the only one prepared to hold a mirror up to Melinda's delusional cobblers and I applaud him for it.

Had someone done that long ago, she might not have become the miserable specimen that she is.
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Old 20-11-2015, 14:13
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I think that's a really ugly thing to do - she presumably comes last with a large underpayment by Connie and perhaps others... yet he continues to put the boot in by saying it was even worse than shown... she may have upped her standards but he continues to try and damage her business. I thought Melinda was pretty awful but to continue to put the boot in is unnecessary.

I agree. That was totally unnecessary to twist the knife in like that on FB just to extend his 15 minutes of fame. I was beginning to warm to him yesterday when he stepped in to help Melinda cook breakfasts. But this has changed my view of him. There should be a stipulation in their contracts in future that they are not allowed to go on social media and slate their fellow contestants.
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Old 20-11-2015, 14:47
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I agree. That was totally unnecessary to twist the knife in like that on FB just to extend his 15 minutes of fame. I was beginning to warm to him yesterday when he stepped in to help Melinda cook breakfasts. But this has changed my view of him. There should be a stipulation in their contracts in future that they are not allowed to go on social media and slate their fellow contestants.
I hardly use FB but I don't think what he did, on his wall, was that OTT given the nature of the place.

People spout all manner of specious bullshit on there all day, every day - what Connie said was hardly remarkable really and could have been far worse.

Had he done it on the FIAB FB a/c, I'd be inclined to agree, but he didn't.
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Old 20-11-2015, 14:50
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I hardly use FB but I don't think what he did, on his wall, was that OTT given the nature of the place.

People spout all manner of specious bullshit on there all day, every day - what Connie said was hardly remarkable really and could have been far worse.

Had he done it on the FIAB FB a/c, I'd be inclined to agree, but he didn't.
There was no need to rub salt into the wound though. He said what needed to be said on the show. We all know how he felt about her and her B&B. It's just nasty to try and put her out of business by making further comments about how much worse it was at her place. It doesn't show him in a favourable light and makes him come across as the nasty vindictive one which may affect his own business.
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Old 20-11-2015, 14:55
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Do you remember the one where the guest had to clamber up a loft ladder to his room? That couldn't have been legal
Yes, that was the beautiful property owned by the half-American, half-British lady - she had horses and needed help doing the breakfast. Once again, an example of a contestant who does not own/run a B&B, just wanted to be on TV to 'test the waters' so to speak. And she charged some ridiculous room rate...£97.50 or something very close. Just some random amount she pulled out of the bag.

I'd not touch any property that Lynne and Ziggy had a hand in, I couldn't stand that couple.
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Old 20-11-2015, 15:06
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There was no need to rub salt into the wound though. He said what needed to be said on the show. We all know how he felt about her and her B&B. It's just nasty to try and put her out of business by making further comments about how much worse it was at her place. It doesn't show him in a favourable light and makes him come across as the nasty vindictive one which may affect his own business.
He obviously felt the programme didn't show just how bad Ayuda House was. Must admit I don't recall too much being shown as wrong in Connies' room so maybe he has a point. Coupled with how much Melinda had been slating the other places for little reason I think its quite understandable. But I think Connie himself is very much a marmite personality so some are naturally inclined to think the worst of him.
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Old 20-11-2015, 15:11
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He obviously felt the programme didn't show just how bad Ayuda House was. Must admit I don't recall too much being shown as wrong in Connies' room so maybe he has a point. Coupled with how much Melinda had been slating the other places for little reason I think its quite understandable. But I think Connie himself is very much a marmite personality so some are naturally inclined to think the worst of him.
I don't think the worst of him. I actually began liking him yesterday after he stepped in to help with brekkie. But slating someone like this on FB after the fact won't do him any favours.
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Old 20-11-2015, 15:15
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Yes, that was the beautiful property owned by the half-American, half-British lady - she had horses and needed help doing the breakfast. Once again, an example of a contestant who does not own/run a B&B, just wanted to be on TV to 'test the waters' so to speak. And she charged some ridiculous room rate...£97.50 or something very close. Just some random amount she pulled out of the bag.

I'd not touch any property that Lynne and Ziggy had a hand in, I couldn't stand that couple.


Now they were a strange couple .. I remember them well All through the week she held herself out as being the reasonable one who was trying very hard to keep Ziggy in check with his unfair criticisms. This couldn't have been further from the truth, as was revealed on their face-to-face show. It also gave me one of my favourite ever moments on FIAB when a fellow contestant who she had considerably underpaid said to her "oh, you are penalising us because we don't charge enough .. ".
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Old 20-11-2015, 15:21
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There was no need to rub salt into the wound though. He said what needed to be said on the show. We all know how he felt about her and her B&B. It's just nasty to try and put her out of business by making further comments about how much worse it was at her place. It doesn't show him in a favourable light and makes him come across as the nasty vindictive one which may affect his own business.
It was on his own personal FB page, and it was between him and his friends, we only know what he said because someone from here posted it. I wouldn't stay at Melinda's because of how she was, and her manky place, nothing to do with someone who did her a favour. I would however stay at his place, l thought his place was lovely.
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Old 20-11-2015, 15:30
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I don't think the worst of him. I actually began liking him yesterday after he stepped in to help with brekkie. But slating someone like this on FB after the fact won't do him any favours.
But we have yet to see how her Ladyship behaves tonight.

I doubt she'll suddenly become a shrinking violet.
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Old 20-11-2015, 15:33
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But we have yet to see how her Ladyship behaves tonight.

I doubt she'll suddenly become a shrinking violet.
I know but best to keep all he has to say about her on the show. It just looks spiteful afterwards.
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Old 20-11-2015, 15:36
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I know but best to keep all he has to say about her on the show. It just looks spiteful afterwards.
I'll wait and see what happens tonight before coming to any conclusion on the matter.
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Old 20-11-2015, 16:01
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It was on his own personal FB page, and it was between him and his friends, we only know what he said because someone from here posted it.
If it was a restricted comment not visible to the casual FB user who has not first 'friended' Connie then I don't think it should have been posted here - though it highlights the fact that nothing is private on FB. No surprise there.

Even so, I have just looked at his 'personal FB page' and in plain sight (I'm not a 'friend') he comments that "...mentioning no names but yes she really is a bitch in real life lol." As it's 4iaB-related, it's obvious to whom he's referring.

I'm not defending Melinda (or any of the others) but his comments are associated with his business and I don't think they're professional or classy.
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Old 20-11-2015, 16:04
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If it was a restricted comment not visible to the casual FB user who has not first 'friended' Connie then I don't think it should have been posted here - though it highlights the fact that nothing is private on FB. No surprise there.

Even so, I have just looked at his 'personal FB page' and in plain sight (I'm not a 'friend') he comments that "...mentioning no names but yes she really is a bitch in real life lol." As it's 4iaB-related, it's obvious to whom he's referring.

I'm not defending Melinda (or any of the others) but his comments are associated with his business and I don't think they're professional or classy.
I agree.
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Old 20-11-2015, 16:43
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I don't think the worst of him. I actually began liking him yesterday after he stepped in to help with brekkie. But slating someone like this on FB after the fact won't do him any favours.
Probably not but I just can't beat the guy up for gobbing-off on his FB wall about it, that's all.

You're obviously a better person than I am because I don't think I'd have been able to resist it either.

It's wall-to-wall dross and mundanity on FB at the best of times - at least that little snippet was actually interesting and I think he can be forgiven for sharing a bit of juicy goss on his FB wall.

Don't forget, you have to take yourself over there to see it - that's hardly 'public' IMO
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Old 20-11-2015, 16:45
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Probably not but I just can't beat the guy up for gobbing-off on his FB wall about it, that's all.

You're obviously a better person than I am because I don't think I'd have been able to resist it either.

It's wall-to-wall dross and mundanity on FB at the best of times - at least that little snippet was actually interesting and I think he can be forgiven for sharing a bit of juicy goss on his FB wall.

Don't forget, you have to take yourself over there to see it - that's hardly 'public' IMO
It's not a question of being a better person but like Normandie says it isn't classy or professional when it's associated with his business.
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