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Four in a Bed :: New Series (Part 4)
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Shrike
03-06-2016
Originally Posted by MadBetty:
“People just look for reasons to underpay these days in this show. £3 because of a soap dish just shows how ridiculous it is.”

I can understand their point - when you're in your 70s bending down for the shampoo and then the soap isn't going to be easy and in a place like Cameron's that kind of detail should be covered.
The £5 underpayment at the Talbot was unjustified though.
ewoodie
03-06-2016
Originally Posted by jaybs:
“At least Justice was achieved with The Old Rectory Country Hotel winning, much of that down to both a great Hotel and superb personality in Cameron.

Sue I do not feel meant anything bad with the small reduction she made, I do understand, Cameron should not be upset, she was just being honest.

As far as Lauren, I wonder if being mouty like she was comes back on the place they represent, I would not feel comfortable there now! Callum needs to put the pants back on.and take control.”

I agree.

Cameron completely over-reacted to that tiny underpayment. Cameron was a dominating force this week.

The Talbot was a decent place. It's a shame they came last.
Hypnoali
03-06-2016
Yay glad Cameron won, lovely place and he was fair with all his payments. The Talbot was my second place. Sue's would be ok if I needed a cheap room in the area. Lauren is thick if she thinks 'just a home' means the same as 'home from home'! Didn't like them or their decor.
fiagomez
03-06-2016
I think considering past underpayments, today's were all fairly reasonable.

However Lauren and callums attitudes stank and in particular Lauren's.

They will pay the price i'm sure!!
Wolfsheadish
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by rhumble:
“you can shut up Lauren”

She's somebody who needs to be told that more often! She just can't though, can she? Imagine what it's like living with her...
roddydogs
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by Shrike:
“I can understand their point - when you're in your 70s bending down for the shampoo and then the soap isn't going to be easy and in a place like Cameron's that kind of detail should be covered.
The £5 underpayment at the Talbot was unjustified though.”

I wouldn't want to bend down in a shower if I was 23, (I wish) apart from anything else you might not want your hair wet.
JulesF
04-06-2016
I had the two old bags down as game-players from the start. They totally embarrassed themselves with all the cringe-making fawning over that young man and the ridiculous pearl-clutching when someone dared to ask him whether he had a partner. And then under-paying him like that!

Awful old women.
ewoodie
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by JulesF:
“I had the two old bags down as game-players from the start. They totally embarrassed themselves with all the cringe-making fawning over that young man and the ridiculous pearl-clutching when someone dared to ask him whether he had a partner. And then under-paying him like that!

Awful old women.”

They did fawn over him which was nauseating. But Cameron dominated the week with repetition of his work ethic and he also toadied to all the older women by complimenting them and asking for kisses etc.

The underpayment was negligible. In other weeks we have seen large underpayments for next to nothing complaints. No one on here would commented about the underpayment if they hadn't bought into lovely Cameron and heard his moaning about the underpayment. What was it £2 / £3? His complaint was laughable.

Lauren's comments at the breakfast table were out of order but Sue's indignation on behalf of Cameron were ridiculous. He certainly worked her and the some of the 4IAB audience over.

Having said that, I don't mind that he won. His place was really lovely. But let's not forget that the whole week was an exercise in manipulation. Lauren and Callum tried and lost and Cameron won.
CaroUK
04-06-2016
I don't think I'd underpay just for the lack of a soap dish/ shelf in the shower, but I agree that there needs to be somewhere to put soap/ shampoo/ conditioner / shower gel etc as most showers are too small foe a normal sized adult to bend down easily - and at Wendy and Sues ages - even more so as they may have had arthritis or rheumatism which would make it difficult in a slippery wet cubicle.

Lauren and Callum were awful - tried to manipulate the others into their way of thinking and failed abysmally - Cameron's far nicer way of getting everyone on side was far nicer to watch and listen to - even if it was a bit nauseating!
ewoodie
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“I don't think I'd underpay just for the lack of a soap dish/ shelf in the shower, but I agree that there needs to be somewhere to put soap/ shampoo/ conditioner / shower gel etc as most showers are too small foe a normal sized adult to bend down easily - and at Wendy and Sues ages - even more so as they may have had arthritis or rheumatism which would make it difficult in a slippery wet cubicle.

Lauren and Callum were awful - tried to manipulate the others into their way of thinking and failed abysmally - Cameron's far nicer way of getting everyone on side was far nicer to watch and listen to - even if it was a bit nauseating!”

Well, Cameron still over-reacted to the underpayment and he was game-playing throughout the prog. Overall, I'm not sure it mattered because whether or not it was the real Cameron, he really did come across as a very pleasant person and someone whose establishment was worth staying at. Some people can't manage to do that.
tuppencehapenny
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by JulesF:
“I had the two old bags down as game-players from the start. They totally embarrassed themselves with all the cringe-making fawning over that young man and the ridiculous pearl-clutching when someone dared to ask him whether he had a partner. And then under-paying him like that!

Awful old women.”

Why so nasty? And why do you - and one or two others - have to use their age as an insult? The 'ridiculous pearl-clutching' was the sisters, Sue in particular, objecting to Lauren singling Cameron out in that way which is entirely justified. And under-paying him by a very small amount is hardly worth an exclamation mark. I understand why they did it, because it was a fault, and Cameron really over-dramatised it.
tuppencehapenny
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Well, Cameron still over-reacted to the underpayment and he was game-playing throughout the prog. Overall, I'm not sure it mattered because whether or not it was the real Cameron, he really did come across as a very pleasant person and someone whose establishment was worth staying at. Some people can't manage to do that. ”

I agree that Cameron was a game-player but he certainly out-played Lauren and Callum which was satisfying. I went off him a little when he was such a drama queen over a tiny under-payment, but on the whole thought he was a deserved winner.
LucyDTrym
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by tuppencehapenny:
“Why so nasty? And why do you - and one or two others - have to use their age as an insult? The 'ridiculous pearl-clutching' was the sisters, Sue in particular, objecting to Lauren singling Cameron out in that way which is entirely justified. And under-paying him by a very small amount is hardly worth an exclamation mark. I understand why they did it, because it was a fault, and Cameron really over-dramatised it.”

excellent post.

I liked sue and her sister, and yes Cameron did overeact to the underpayment, but i actually think he was under huge pressure by his employees to do well. If anyone goes on their facebook page its all about The Old Rectory winning, and hardly a mention of Cameron at all, he doesnt comment not really to any of the good posts left on there. I just think he was under crisis.
2shy2007
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by Shrike:
“I can understand their point - when you're in your 70s bending down for the shampoo and then the soap isn't going to be easy and in a place like Cameron's that kind of detail should be covered.
The £5 underpayment at the Talbot was unjustified though.”

Yes I think their very small underpayment at Cameron's was fair, there is nothing worse than getting in a shower and there being nowhere to put bottles and soap apart from on the floor.

He admitted that he had already ordered soap dishes after they commented, so its good news all round really. at least he wont have future customers moaning about the lack of places to put things in his showers.
JulesF
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by tuppencehapenny:
“Why so nasty? And why do you - and one or two others - have to use their age as an insult? The 'ridiculous pearl-clutching' was the sisters, Sue in particular, objecting to Lauren singling Cameron out in that way which is entirely justified. And under-paying him by a very small amount is hardly worth an exclamation mark. I understand why they did it, because it was a fault, and Cameron really over-dramatised it.”

I'll gloss over your 'nasty' remark except to say that I regularly see far worse comments than mine on this thread. Disagreeing with me is obviously fine, but there's no need to make it personal.

'Old bag' is more a frame of mind than a reference to age, in my view, and those two had it in spades. They were obvious game-players from the start, and, yes, they did make a big show of expressing their disapproval of what is, in my social circle anyway, a perfectly acceptable 'getting to know you' question. The exclamation mark was because I thought it was absurd to knock such a paltry sum off the price for what was a very very minor issue. The very fact that it was such a small amount made it seem like a desperate attempt to find something, anything, they could use against the place that was obviously streets ahead of everyone else's. And, yes, Cameron did over-dramatise it, but that really doesn't matter one way or another. It was their behaviour I was commenting on.
ewoodie
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by tuppencehapenny:
“Why so nasty? And why do you - and one or two others - have to use their age as an insult? The 'ridiculous pearl-clutching' was the sisters, Sue in particular, objecting to Lauren singling Cameron out in that way which is entirely justified. And under-paying him by a very small amount is hardly worth an exclamation mark. I understand why they did it, because it was a fault, and Cameron really over-dramatised it.”

This. ^^^ The underpayment wasn't worth bothering about. He must've known he'd won.


Originally Posted by tuppencehapenny:
“I agree that Cameron was a game-player but he certainly out-played Lauren and Callum which was satisfying. I went off him a little when he was such a drama queen over a tiny under-payment, but on the whole thought he was a deserved winner.”

Cameron really showed them how to play the game! But like you, I think he was an OTT drama queen about the underpayment.

Originally Posted by LucyDTrym:
“excellent post.

I liked sue and her sister, and yes Cameron did overeact to the underpayment, but i actually think he was under huge pressure by his employees to do well. If anyone goes on their facebook page its all about The Old Rectory winning, and hardly a mention of Cameron at all, he doesnt comment not really to any of the good posts left on there. I just think he was under crisis.”

Do you mean Employers? Could be. Although I think he sets himself very high targets.

Originally Posted by 2shy2007:
“Yes I think their very small underpayment at Cameron's was fair, there is nothing worse than getting in a shower and there being nowhere to put bottles and soap apart from on the floor.

He admitted that he had already ordered soap dishes after they commented, so its good news all round really. at least he wont have future customers moaning about the lack of places to put things in his showers.”

That was brilliant. He seems an excellent manager.

Originally Posted by JulesF:
“I'll gloss over your 'nasty' remark except to say that I regularly see far worse comments than mine on this thread. Disagreeing with me is obviously fine, but there's no need to make it personal.

'Old bag' is more a frame of mind than a reference to age, in my view, and those two had it in spades. They were obvious game-players from the start, and, yes, they did make a big show of expressing their disapproval of what is, in my social circle anyway, a perfectly acceptable 'getting to know you' question. The exclamation mark was because I thought it was absurd to knock such a paltry sum off the price for what was a very very minor issue. The very fact that it was such a small amount made it seem like a desperate attempt to find something, anything, they could use against the place that was obviously streets ahead of everyone else's. And, yes, Cameron did over-dramatise it, but that really doesn't matter one way or another. It was their behaviour I was commenting on.”

I didn't see them as game-players from the start and not at any stage in the comp. I can't recall for sure but apart from underpaying Cameron by a few pounds, did they underpay anyone else? Surely if they'd been gameplayers they'd have underpaid the others and by tens of pounds rather than just one place by £2/£3.

Cameron's OTT histrionics made the small underpayment into a big issue when there was no need as he must've known he'd won. But maybe that's just his personality - pure theatre - with some tantrums and tiaras thrown in!


Anyway, onwards and upwards. Next week's info coming soon.........
ewoodie
05-06-2016
Monday

The competition kicks off at Abertay Guest House in the Dundee suburb of Broughty Ferry, where hosts Kate and Karlos Victor hope their home from home approach will win the day.

http://www.abertayguesthouse.co.uk/

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_..._Scotland.html



Tuesday

The competitors visit The Registry Guest House in Peterculler, near Aberdeen. Here, owner Bob Calder and his sister-in-law Kirsty Laird hope to impress their fellow hoteliers.

http://www.registryguesthouse.com/

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_..._Scotland.html



Wednesday

The contestants travel to The Albert in Scarborough for the third day of the contest, where some of the guests are left less than impressed by the lack of facilities.

http://www.thealbertscarborough.co.uk/

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_...e_England.html



Thursday

Chef Jules Tagger and his partner Jan Latimer finish off the week's competition at The Wellwood in Amble, but Kate and Karlos think there are some serious faults to address.

http://www.wellwoodamble.co.uk/

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restau...d_England.html


Friday

The B&B owners meet for the last time to find out what they have been paid and to settle some scores, before the winner is revealed, with one couple left in tears by the comments.
fiagomez
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“This. ^^^ The underpayment wasn't worth bothering about. He must've known he'd won.




Cameron really showed them how to play the game! But like you, I think he was an OTT drama queen about the underpayment.



Do you mean Employers? Could be. Although I think he sets himself very high targets.



That was brilliant. He seems an excellent manager.



I didn't see them as game-players from the start and not at any stage in the comp. I can't recall for sure but apart from underpaying Cameron by a few pounds, did they underpay anyone else? Surely if they'd been gameplayers they'd have underpaid the others and by tens of pounds rather than just one place by £2/£3.

Cameron's OTT histrionics made the small underpayment into a big issue when there was no need as he must've known he'd won. But maybe that's just his personality - pure theatre - with some tantrums and tiaras thrown in!


Anyway, onwards and upwards. Next week's info coming soon.........”

I didn't see them as game players either. I'm fairly sure they underpaid the 2 women by £10 but paid in full Lauren and Cameron.

Looking forward to next weeks!!
fiagomez
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Monday

The competition kicks off at Abertay Guest House in the Dundee suburb of Broughty Ferry, where hosts Kate and Karlos Victor hope their home from home approach will win the day.

http://www.abertayguesthouse.co.uk/

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_..._Scotland.html



Tuesday

The competitors visit The Registry Guest House in Peterculler, near Aberdeen. Here, owner Bob Calder and his sister-in-law Kirsty Laird hope to impress their fellow hoteliers.

http://www.registryguesthouse.com/

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_..._Scotland.html



Wednesday

The contestants travel to The Albert in Scarborough for the third day of the contest, where some of the guests are left less than impressed by the lack of facilities.

http://www.thealbertscarborough.co.uk/

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_...e_England.html



Thursday

Chef Jules Tagger and his partner Jan Latimer finish off the week's competition at The Wellwood in Amble, but Kate and Karlos think there are some serious faults to address.

http://www.wellwoodamble.co.uk/

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restau...d_England.html


Friday

The B&B owners meet for the last time to find out what they have been paid and to settle some scores, before the winner is revealed, with one couple left in tears by the comments.”

Thanks ewoodie
Jimmy Connors
06-06-2016
Originally Posted by aggielane:
“I have no problem with the question but to then question the reply is bloody rude”

She didn't like the fact that Cameron handled her question without even blinking. She certainly didn't get the reaction she was looking for.

'I am actually straight'

'ARE YOU REALLY?'

Stupid woman. Every time we see a monster on FIAB and think nobody can be worse, along comes another (Lauren) Lauren was an absolutely awful person with a very narrow mind.

Had to laugh at the extractor fan debacle. So it was an isolator switch? But it was switched to the 'off' position? That was why it didn't come on with the light, or did the sisters switch it off in their attempt to switch it on? Guess we'll never know now.

My TV guide says next week's are repeats. Unusual for C4 to air repeats in this slot.
BlueEyedMrsP
06-06-2016
I think Lauren (and to a lesser extent, Callum) was missing the mouth-brain filter. She made a comment at the breakfast table when she attempted to bring up Cameron's camp persona again, along the lines of "but if something's on my mind, I should be able to say it." I think she was hoping Callum would back her up on it, and he didn't really , and no one else seemed interested in discussing it which then prompted her to say "awkward!". Um yeah, love, you ARE awkward. The pair of them bringing up their change of opinion after learning their host (her name escapes me atm) was a paramedic is another example of them not being able to filter what should be kept to themselves, it was so unnecessary. When one of the older ladies said to Callum, "so you're not a very good judge of character then?" I was hoping the camera would zoom in on Lauren when he said no, he wasn't.

I do wonder if the producers pick one couple to "play" the bad guys each week? Encourage them to say and do things to cause tension as they think that's what the viewers want. Or do they just have a knack for selecting the occasional plonker?
ewoodie
06-06-2016
Originally Posted by Jimmy Connors:
“She didn't like the fact that Cameron handled her question without even blinking. She certainly didn't get the reaction she was looking for.

'I am actually straight'

'ARE YOU REALLY?'

Stupid woman. Every time we see a monster on FIAB and think nobody can be worse, along comes another (Lauren) Lauren was an absolutely awful person with a very narrow mind.

Had to laugh at the extractor fan debacle. So it was an isolator switch? But it was switched to the 'off' position? That was why it didn't come on with the light, or did the sisters switch it off in their attempt to switch it on? Guess we'll never know now.

My TV guide says next week's are repeats. Unusual for C4 to air repeats in this slot.”

Here's the link for the 4IAB page. http://www.channel4.com/programmes/f.../episode-guide

If you scroll down to episode 41 near the bottom of the page, you can see this week's contestants. I don't recall seeing any of them before.


The overview of the week is somewhat different to the Radio Times!

Episode 41 - The Abertay Guest House
At The Abertay Guest House near Dundee, owners Kate and Karlos Victor are judged by the toughest critics of all: their peers, leaving them crushed and vowing revenge.

Episode 42 - The Registry Guest House
In Aberdeen and The Registry Guest House, simmering tensions cause problems for hosts Bob Calder and Kirsty Laird, and Bob's strict no baked beans policy is put into action.

Episode 43 - The Albert
As the guests head to The Albert in Scarborough, hosts Pauline and Mike Hirst have to deal with tensions in a fracturing group, and there's a shock in store for Jules and Jan.

Episode 44 - The Wellwood
The final visit is to Amble and The Wellwood, owned by chef Jules Tagger and partner Jan Latimer, where a joke leads to accusations of sabotage and the guests have a feeling of déjà vu...

Episode 45 - Payment Day
It's the last day of the competition and tensions run high. Kate and Karlos have some explaining to do but are left in tears. The payments are revealed and the winner is announced.
anyonefortennis
06-06-2016
Not sure if this is a repeat or not. Looks like there's fireworks on payment day.
2shy2007
06-06-2016
Dont remember any of these.
anyonefortennis
06-06-2016
Bob wants the phone number for another hotel already and he's just walked in.
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