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Only saw tonight's show so perhaps can't comment on the week but I can't say I warmed to any of this weeks contestants. At first I thought the blonde and brunette pair were ok but of course it went downhill from then on and they appeared to be totally disingenuous and nit picking to a fault. Saying that a lot of the criticisms seemed over the top like the comments about the china the older woman had on breakfast duty. They all seemed to underpay disproportionately for seemingly minor issues the most ridiculous of which was of course blind gate.
I think the show needs changing its become more and more of a pantomime with the "baddies" and the "goodies" and the bizarre situations that occur. Is it supposed to be entertainment or informative? To contradict myself I still enjoy watching it but it's become so predictable. |
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Am I alone in finding Audrey's behaviour slightly eccentric rather than downright unkind? Like Molly, I liked her comments about the outrageous £30. Also, as Solar pointed out, she deducted a flat rate of £10 all round. It may be viewed as a kind of 'fairness', if you know what I mean.
I think I would stay at her place, especially as one of the beds looked massive, though the style is not to my taste. She comes across as interesting and game (remember the hoverthingy). |
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No. I didn't think she was nasty or unkind at all.
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I think Audrey should be glad the Lilypad pair were on this week as Audrey's payments and reasoning were pretty suspect imho.
There was her complaint about soft pillows, when she provides soft pillows. Then there was knocking £10 off the tyneside place as it didn't have a fridge which she provides. Yes - but tyneside was already considerably cheaper, to knock off even more was very dubious imho. Mind you overall I think only the Castle pair came out with any credit, though I did find Gordon to be overly familiar and he really should keep the banter to people he knows are ok with it. |
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Wonder what her friend makes of Lily Pads shenanigans. this week.
They themselves seem to be making it all the fault of the production, no doubt becasue of the viewers reaction to their behaviour. https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...40528736062879 According to FB they're nice. They may well be nice with paying customers but they were not nice on 4IAB. Did they pay any compliments on the feedback forms? The others in the prog noticed their attitude too and commented on it. The production company make the most of the material they get and they stupidly played right into their hands. |
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What a load of bollocks. Where's the rationale for making her go out and buy an cup and saucer? They criticised every room, every b&b they stayed at, underpaid everyone and wouldn't stay at any of the places again.
According to FB they're nice. They may well be nice with paying customers but they were not nice on 4IAB. Did they pay any compliments on the feedback forms? The others in the prog noticed their attitude too and commented on it. The production company make the most of the material they get and they stupidly played right into their hands. |
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I’ve heard from on CDWM and on Coach Trip about the manipulation and, for instance, being asked to repeat a lame joke several times and other such things. I can well believe she was asked to buy a china cup and saucer to give them a talking point. I didn’t like the people at Lilly Pad at all but after reading the FB link I think they were set up.
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I've no doubt that there is an awful lot of manipulation and they certainly aren't the first to say that only their negative comments were shown.
But to claim they weren't allowed to ask for a change in bedding is stretching it really. There's no way I would risk an allergy attack just becouse the producers of a two bit reality show said I couldnt contact the hosts. But even if that were true (and how spineless they must be if it is!), you wouldn't then underpay on that point as you don't know if it could've been rectified. |
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That statement on the business page was full of contradictions (it seems to have been taken down by the way)
1. The travelling China tea cup. In one place she said she did bring a cup with her to use only in her room, yet elsewhere in the post she said the producers made her go and buy one.... So did she bring one to use in her room, or did she buy one on her travels? 2. Saying the producers told them they couldn't ask for a change of bedding - if that was so, why did the hosts say on reading feedback that all she had to do was ask for replacements and they would have been provided without hesitation. 3. Contradictions about "the feather allergy" - in one place she said she had never slept in feather bedding before the show - so how did she know if she was allergic or not, and if she wasn't - why take antihistamines? Also she complained about Audrey's bedding, but didn't say a word about the Castle's? Also - there's no way the producers would risk anyone having a severe allergic reaction when the problem could be so easily solved. 4. She claimed that their (twin) rooms were inferior to those given to the others..... Not on my TV screen they weren't...... If anything their room at Audrey's was nicer than the one given to the Clifton couple! 5. The banging door at the Castle wouldn't have gone on all night. Once the pub shut and the punters had gone home, no one would have been using the toilets or the hand dryer - clutching at straws to try and justify the underpayment! All in all, a pretty lame attempt to justify their bad attitude. |
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The only way to find out for sure is to go to the Lilly Pad or to the tearooms. She seems to have a lot of support and that (as well as some background info from other programmes) made me think her cries of being stitched up had an element of truth in them.
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Maybe the producers of FIAB were made aware of the FB statement and asked for it to be taken down? If so, l can't think why!
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Maybe the producers of FIAB were made aware of the FB statement and asked for it to be taken down? I can't think why!
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... The production company make the most of the material they get and they stupidly played right into their hands.
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Maybe the producers of FIAB were made aware of the FB statement and asked for it to be taken down? If so, l can't think why!
The interesting question for me is IF the crew designate a pantomime villain of the piece, how and why is that victim decided upon? Propensity to be manipulated? |
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Only saw tonight's show so perhaps can't comment on the week but I can't say I warmed to any of this weeks contestants. At first I thought the blonde and brunette pair were ok but of course it went downhill from then on and they appeared to be totally disingenuous and nit picking to a fault. Saying that a lot of the criticisms seemed over the top like the comments about the china the older woman had on breakfast duty. They all seemed to underpay disproportionately for seemingly minor issues the most ridiculous of which was of course blind gate.
I think the show needs changing its become more and more of a pantomime with the "baddies" and the "goodies" and the bizarre situations that occur. Is it supposed to be entertainment or informative? To contradict myself I still enjoy watching it but it's become so predictable. Its like a bitch fest. People scoring down ridiculous money for something that in the REAL world would have been fixed. Last night was the worse for me. |
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What a load of bollocks. Where's the rationale for making her go out and buy an cup and saucer? They criticised every room, every b&b they stayed at, underpaid everyone and wouldn't stay at any of the places again.
According to FB they're nice. They may well be nice with paying customers but they were not nice on 4IAB. Did they pay any compliments on the feedback forms? The others in the prog noticed their attitude too and commented on it. The production company make the most of the material they get and they stupidly played right into their hands. ITS all editing now and yes I think some of it is put into place by the production team, but obviously they cant force people to make bad feedback etc and behave badly, BUT i do think the show is too edited now. I said the young lady i met who worked at the Foxy 4 days of filming and when they saw the show, they hardly recognised their place or the bits that were filmed most of it was on the cutting room floor. HOWEVER, I think they find the one couple they know can be easily manipulated..... I thought the payments ludicrous. There should be a format for the payments the show is becoming a bitch fest. |
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OK, so if we accept the issue that the guests weren't allowed to contact the owners and had no option but to put up with it (although we've heard enough 'why didn't you ask/tell us?' and never heard anything eluding to 'not allowed to') I still don't understand Sue's televised comments.
She says she's allergic, she said she took antihistamine, but she also said she'd never slept on feather or down before and so how would she know she's allergic and why would she take a pill? And then it wasn't an issue at The Castle ![]() I suppose we could be very generous and imagine that Sharon and Gordon had substituted their feather bedding with synthetic in anticipation of the visit? Shame they didn't also install frosted film and shutters at the windows and someone to hand out paper towels and and open and close the door of the Gents too ![]() I did notice the negative comments as soon as they arrived though 'I hope those roadworks aren't going to be going all day' in South Shields, when you knew they weren't going to be in their rooms or even the hotel all day anyway and they wouldn't be drilling in the dark and also about the banging door - I doubt they'd be trying to sleep before 11pm anyway. If they'd phrased their criticism in a different way and just flagged up the issue, it wouldn't have caused such ill will. But I should think anyone could work that out for themself. If they wanted to that is. I agree as soon as they arrived outside the The Clifton they started to complain about road works, as soon as she went into the bedroom she was being disingenuous. They knew the south shields was going to be competition, so they eliminated that one first. £30.00 underpayment DISGUSTING. The fact the production team were in their room at the time they REVEALED THE SHEETS dom dom dom..........means EVERYONE was still up. So they could have changed them. Actually the stains make sense after Liz said it was brand new bedding. I expect the dye on the sheets was poor. The thing is most people get into bed without disturbing it that much and slide in, I never pull all the bedding over and get in lol..... They could see the room was clean. The sheets would have smelt clean as well. Being a B&B owner she would have known it wasnt dirty stains..... so dramatic sleeping on TOWELS, didnt they have a SHOWER then, the towels would have been damp surely?.....BUT AS THE CREW WERE STILL THERE FILMING why didnt she simply go down and get it sorted....... In a way it does make sense that they were prevented from doing so....perhaps. They wouldnt stay there again, because of one sheet. RIDICULOUS. If the sheet issue wasnt there the place was perfect. The Clifton for me was the best value for money. They complained straight away at Audreys. They complained straight away at The Castle. The door banging got on my nits to be honest. AGAIN it was being filmed so they were up anyway go down, talk to Sharon and ask to be moved or ask why was the door banging. Its all for effect. There was no way there were going to be in bed by 11pm anyway.......not if they were STILL BEING FILMED complaining about a door.... I actually think on reflection Audrey was the only one not game playing. She didnt deserve her low marks, and I was a bit upset with Liz and her hubby for only paying 25.00 for her room. The room looked perfectly big enough to me. The fact they have had to taken extra luggage for two weeks is not the landladys fault. You can stack the luggage up so its out of the way. Very harsh scoring I thought. I thought the telling thing for me the one thing Sue said which showed she was game playing was the tablet. The fact she said she had never slept in feather pillows and duvets........ how the hell do you know you are allergic to it then. Actually MEDICALLY it is very rare condition in the true sense. To know you are allergic anyway you have to have a REACTION to it....... Feather allergy is common if you keep parrots etc its not so much the feather but the dust and mites that come off them that causes the issue. Most people who use feather pillows are safe, as they have been specially treated and contained inside covers, so therefore wouldnt attract dust and mites. A lot of people who have had a reaction to a feather pillow are actually ASSUMING its that, when it is in actuality dust and mites in the room. So she couldnt have known she was allergic to something she had never reacted too lol...so why the bloody drama, and WHY NO reaction to The Castle bedding........ It was all set up. Almost like silent plotting. Its a lovely room, perfect, now how can we score down............it was too obvious and it did show them as being scheming..... I was upset for Audrey. OK some of her comments were a bit silly with 10.00 off for a fridge, BUT I think she was playing the game the way she thought she should, and she did it to them all. No i think if this is how FIAB is going to be from now, i really not sure i want to watch it, as its just becoming TOO OBVIOUS who will win.. |
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Have a look on Trip Advisor folks at Lilly's Pad, and see what you think think of the latest 5 star review.
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_R...e_England.html |
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Me neither, unless they didn’t want the extent of their manipulation to be known.
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Have a look on Trip Advisor folks at Lilly's Pad, and see what you think think of the latest 5 star review.
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_R...e_England.html |
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Ho hum. Very convenient for them, eh?
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I've said it before and i'll say it again, the payments should be scrapped. They should have to rate the b&bs they stay in 1st, 2nd and 3rd. This would make it 100% fairer than the opportunity to ridiculously underpay.
That said, they will never do this because they presume that the viewer wants 'drama'. Personally i'd like to see the nice areas they stay in, more of the b&b facilities and more time spent on breakfast than moaning. |
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That's what I thought!
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Have a look on Trip Advisor folks at Lilly's Pad, and see what you think think of the latest 5 star review.
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_R...e_England.html On a side note- I don't think that you should be able to leave negative reviews just because you saw the place on a TV show. |
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The sad thing about all of this is that their property was nice, and IMHO anyway good value for the money they were charging. They had no need to go mad on the game playing as they did. Their place was capable of winning on its own merits.
Their "win" must seem pretty hollow to them today - they have been pilloried on social media for their actions (and yes - editing or not - it's is their words and actions which have put them in that position), and their business must surely suffer a little bit as a result. The production team do try to encourage "drama", but they should also realise that some of the things they do could cause a small business to close. The can push a little bit, but they should realise when enough is enough. They could easily have edited out some of the negativity they encouraged, but they didn't. Admittedly, the ladies did say everything that was shown, and not a lot of it could really be said to have been taken out of context, so they have to take the responsibility for their actions. |
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The only way to find out for sure is to go to the Lilly Pad or to the tearooms. She seems to have a lot of support and that (as well as some background info from other programmes) made me think her cries of being stitched up had an element of truth in them.
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I imagine that's it in a nutshell.
If so I'd guess that either it wasn't true, or, it contravened the signed contract to reveal too much about the filming process. The interesting question for me is IF the crew designate a pantomime villain of the piece, how and why is that victim decided upon? Propensity to be manipulated? Interesting question. These 'victims' do have a hand in things themselves though. Quote:
Great post.
I agree as soon as they arrived outside the The Clifton they started to complain about road works, as soon as she went into the bedroom she was being disingenuous. Actually the stains make sense after Liz said it was brand new bedding. They complained straight away at Audreys. They complained straight away at The Castle. I thought the telling thing for me the one thing Sue said which showed she was game playing was the tablet. The fact she said she had never slept in feather pillows and duvets........ how the hell do you know you are allergic to it then. She could know she's allergic to feathers through birds. However, she said her face was puffed up and It clearly wasn't. Quote:
Have a look on Trip Advisor folks at Lilly's Pad, and see what you think think of the latest 5 star review.
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_R...e_England.html Now there's a new glowing report on TA! ![]() Quote:
I've said it before and i'll say it again, the payments should be scrapped. They should have to rate the b&bs they stay in 1st, 2nd and 3rd. This would make it 100% fairer than the opportunity to ridiculously underpay.
That said, they will never do this because they presume that the viewer wants 'drama'. Personally i'd like to see the nice areas they stay in, more of the b&b facilities and more time spent on breakfast than moaning. Quote:
The sad thing about all of this is that their property was nice, and IMHO anyway good value for the money they were charging. They had no need to go mad on the game playing as they did. Their place was capable of winning on its own merits.
Their "win" must seem pretty hollow to them today - they have been pilloried on social media for their actions (and yes - editing or not - it's is their words and actions which have put them in that position), and their business must surely suffer a little bit as a result. The production team do try to encourage "drama", but they should also realise that some of the things they do could cause a small business to close. The can push a little bit, but they should realise when enough is enough. They could easily have edited out some of the negativity they encouraged, but they didn't. Admittedly, the ladies did say everything that was shown, and not a lot of it could really be said to have been taken out of context, so they have to take the responsibility for their actions. There's nothing wrong with being on 4IAB, having a lovely place, being fair and still losing. Some dimwits think it's all about the win at any cost. There was a couple in the early days of 4IAB who underpaid their biggest rivals by a vast amount. They got a bashing on here and on social media. They came on this thread claiming it was all in the editing and they were returning their plaque to C4, which they never did. |
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