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I like Anita, but she's not there yet. I don't think she's particularly undermarked.
Her Samba leg and hip action were week, her legs undefined, it was all a bit meh, but decent enough. She has problems with finishing her lines, she's got talent but her technique isn't there yet and her dances seem a bit messy. She's got potential, but I don't get the 'she's so great and so undermarked' insistence really. I also don't think this PERCEPTION will do her any harm, to be honest. |
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I think Anita is VERY overrated on this forum and its starting to get on my nerves... she hasn't been in the dance-off or near the bottom of the leaderboard yet, so she's hardly getting a raw deal. I think she is good but not great and her scores have generally been about right. The only thing I would add is that Peter Andre is on a par with her rather than being better IMO - but he is overmarked and most people here seem to agree on that!
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Anita dances a sinuous Samba complete with quick basic, voltas, travelling voltas, bota fogos. Her hip action comes from her feet and the all-important back-of-knee flex so she looks natural and not jerky. The placement of her arms is just right. She gets 27.
Helen does a stiffer version of the Skorjanec salsa. She gets 32???? ![]()
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I did think she was marginally under marked this week with a difficult dance but then first out is the pace-maker and often suffers. I didn't think she deserved more last week with that strange 'show-dance' kerfuffle masquerading as a Smooth. But in any event, I'm not sure under marking at this stage is a problem when they are in no danger of a dance-off - it allows the illusion of the all important 'journey' as the judges add on marks ager on. Rachel Stevens was a good e.g. of this - in truth she didn't get noticeably better as the series progressed (she was consistently good) but the judges started marking her higher towards the end when she needed it to get to the final.
It is just very rare to see so many people claiming someone is great, while they are only average. Can't seem to find a good comparison in Strictly past (let's not go down the route of comparing ballroom with Rachel, lol). To be clear, only Jay's Jive has been great (rest of the dances only good). |
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What, Helen got higher than 32 on your screen?
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I think she has been marked very fairly to be honest.
Going first last night wasn't great for her but her Samba had little bounce, poor hips and she was a bit unsteady on her feet at times. Her place in the leader board was right. Gleb is prob pulling her support too. |
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One of Rachel's biggest fans, but her latin technique and execution was not that good (so, perhaps it IS a good comparison on that field; not in terms of popularity obviously).
It is just very rare to see so many people claiming someone is great, while they are only average. Can't seem to find a good comparison in Strictly past (let's not go down the route of comparing ballroom with Rachel, lol). To be clear, only Jay's Jive has been great (rest of the dances only good). rachel stevens had an average score of 35.8 in SCD 6 and did a lot better in the second half of SCD than the first half.
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I'm actually less excited by her each week.
Loved the Cha Cha and Charleston. Really didn't enjoy the Ghost AS (esp the Gleb Special) and was underwhelmed by the Samba, which is thought looked really good in training. |
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Anita is currently 5th on season averages. Only Helen, Peter, Jay and Kellie have higher averages than her. She's out pulling the likes of Georgia and Katie (although that might have something to do with Movie Week, especially in Katie's case) and is only a 2 point average off Kellie who's been one of the most consistently scored contestants this series. Unless you're suggesting Anita is better than 4 couples who are considered contenders for the final, she's not doing all that badly....
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Not just for women. I don't think Helen's Salsa was all that much better though.
Anita has way more rhythm and fluidity and thought her samba deserved more. |
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I think she's been undermarked too. She had great rhythm in that samba and had the party feel for me. Yes, in places it was a little stilted, but overall the routine looked good to me.
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Anita is currently 5th on season averages. Only Helen, Peter, Jay and Kellie have higher averages than her. She's out pulling the likes of Georgia and Katie (although that might have something to do with Movie Week, especially in Katie's case) and is only a 2 point average off Kellie who's been one of the most consistently scored contestants this series. Unless you're suggesting Anita is better than 4 couples who are considered contenders for the final, she's not doing all that badly....
Anita - 27 +27 +29 +27 = 110 Georgia - 27 +25 +27 +31 = 110 |
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Perhaps ask why you think she should be marked higher?
She's pretty mediocre so her marks seem fair to me |
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She's equal with Georgia, not outscoring her :
Anita - 27 +27 +29 +27 = 110 Georgia - 27 +25 +27 +31 = 110
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Perhaps ask why you think she should be marked higher?
She's pretty mediocre so her marks seem fair to me |
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Am I remembering wrongly, or did the judges sometimes say on previous series "You've no previous dance experience, so I'm taking that into account with the marks"? They never say that any more.
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I'm actually less excited by her each week.
Loved the Cha Cha and Charleston. Really didn't enjoy the Ghost AS (esp the Gleb Special) and was underwhelmed by the Samba, which is thought looked really good in training. |
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I like Anita, but she's not there yet. I don't think she's particularly undermarked.
Her Samba leg and hip action were week, her legs undefined, it was all a bit meh, but decent enough. She has problems with finishing her lines, she's got talent but her technique isn't there yet and her dances seem a bit messy. She's got potential, but I don't get the 'she's so great and so undermarked' insistence really. I also don't think this PERCEPTION will do her any harm, to be honest. I didn't think she was undermarked but I did think some of the others were overmarked but that's often the drawback of being first out. |
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Well she looks the part, even if she is technically imperfect. If people like her they may vote against the judges to keep her in the competition, so maybe the low marking works in her favour.
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rachel stevens had an average score of 35.8 in SCD 6 and did a lot better in the second half of SCD than the first half.
