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Is Ola's sexy calendar inappropriate?
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Monkseal
19-10-2015
Originally Posted by natalian:
“I don't see it as a laugh. I see it as double standards i.e. the guys can strip off to their hearts content with the intention of generating sexual arousal in their fans .”

And the female pros are out there dancing in burqas?
natalian
19-10-2015
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“And the female pros are out there dancing in burqas?”

No, they are dressed in fairly glamorous costumes just as the men are...but they are dressed. There is no reason why the men can't keep their costumes on in the same way. It shouldn't be acceptable for them to disrobe just because they are men.
Monkseal
19-10-2015
The men are dressed. Even with his shirt open far more of Gleb was covered than was of Anita in that samba.
Michelle_OHara
19-10-2015
Originally Posted by inothernews:
“Fair enough.

I once had the misfortune to be on the jury in a rape case. I was quite young at the time, but the attitude of the female jurors surprised me. The six men (me included) were all of the opinion the woman was telling the truth, and the man should have behaved himself. Unbelievably (to me anyway) it was the women on the jury who were judging the young woman as being a bit tarty 'so she probably encouraged him' Consequently he got off.

Feels a bit like that on this thread.”

I cannot have been a good experience and I can understand what you mean. I can't speak for other posts but as I say I'm not judging Ola on her choosing to do the calender, it's perfectly fair she should if she wants to.
natalian
19-10-2015
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“The men are dressed. Even with his shirt open far more of Gleb was covered than was of Anita in that samba.”

The shirt wasn't 'open' up in the Clauditorium, it was off completely and he then proceeded to parade his naked upper body in front of camera.

I don't have a problem with 'open' shirts during the routine, it is part and parcel of dance costuming. I do have a problem with them stripping the shirt off in its entirety, especially when fingers then start being wagged at the girls for doing calendars in their private lives.
inothernews
19-10-2015
Originally Posted by Michelle_OHara:
“I cannot have been a good experience and I can understand what you mean. I can't speak for other posts but as I say I'm not judging Ola on her choosing to do the calender, it's perfectly fair she should if she wants to.”

Like I say, I have no argument with you. Your view is fair enough- but I have noticed it is often women who are far harsher judges of other women than men are.
Monkseal
19-10-2015
Originally Posted by natalian:
“The shirt wasn't 'open' up in the Clauditorium, it was off completely and he then proceeded to parade his naked upper body in front of camera..”

And a lot of the women have most of their bare legs, often right up to the crotch, on display in all of the latin, not just in a oneupmanship skit on the balcony, and the men never do. It's just fact - the women on the show are far more nude, far more often, and it's as a matter of routine, not for a skit after a dance.
MACTOWIN
19-10-2015
Originally Posted by inothernews:
“Like I say, I have no argument with you. Your view is fair enough- but I have noticed it is often women who are far harsher judges of other women than men are.”

Wow you are brave saying that if I have ever said that I get hammered on here but between you and me I agree with you.
natalian
19-10-2015
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“And a lot of the women have most of their bare legs, often right up to the crotch, on display in all of the latin, not just in a oneupmanship skit on the balcony, and the men never do. It's just fact - the women on the show are far more nude, far more often, and it's as a matter of routine, not for a skit after a dance.”

Their costumes may be more revealing than the men's but they are all pretty traditional latin dance costumes. They are not made specifically revealing for the benefit of the public and I have never seen any of the girls strip off their costume to bare all in the same way as the men do.
BuddyBontheNet
19-10-2015
Can anyone answer my earlier question please? How do we know that the BBC disapproves of Ola's calendar?

And I completely agree that female posters on here are much harsher judges of women on the show. And the more attractive the woman in question, the worse it gets. Lisa Snowdon and Kelly Brook spring to mind immediately.

Edit: It's just crossed my mind that Lisa and Kelly did photo shoots that revealed a lot more than Ola, Kristina or Aliona's calendars. Sex sells is the old adage.
natalian
19-10-2015
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“So can anyone answer my earlier question please? How do we know that the BBC disapproves of Ola's calendar?

And I completely agree that female posters on here are much harsher judges of women on the show. And the more attractive the woman in question, the worse it gets. Lisa Snowdon and Kellie Brook spring to mind immediately.”

From what I understand, it is something that is reported on Twitter by Mr Ola. How reliable that source is might be open to interpretation.
BuddyBontheNet
19-10-2015
Originally Posted by natalian:
“From what I understand, it is something that is reported on Twitter by Mr Ola. How reliable that source is might be open to interpretation.”

Thanks - might have a look later.
alan29
19-10-2015
More naff than sexy.
Monkseal
19-10-2015
Originally Posted by natalian:
“Their costumes may be more revealing than the men's but they are all pretty traditional latin dance costumes. They are not made specifically revealing for the benefit of the public and I have never seen any of the girls strip off their costume to bare all in the same way as the men do.”

Of course the female pros outfits are revealing for the purposes of public titilation. Were Ola's triannual cleavage canyon catsuits there because they were easier to dance in? Not really. The only thing that men show that women don't is nipple. Women show bare leg, bare back (except for straps), bare arms, bare stomach, and they show them far more often than the men do.
natalian
19-10-2015
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Of course the female pros outfits are revealing for the purposes of public titilation. Were Ola's triannual cleavage canyon catsuits there because they were easier to dance in? Not really. The only thing that men show that women don't is nipple. Women show bare leg, bare back (except for straps), bare arms, bare stomach, and they show them far more often than the men do.”

They are still traditional latin dance costumes. If latin dance costumes are there to titilate then this will be true of every latin dancer in competition, not just the pro's on Strictly.

All I am saying is that both the men and the women should wear the costume they are given. They shouldn't take them off just to display additional flesh.
SweetAngelx
20-10-2015
Originally Posted by kochspostulates:
“I agree with the others who said that the costumes that she wears on the show are more provocative. Plus I think that the dance moves that anyone does in dances like the salsa / samba etc. are more sexy than this. (Both genders)


I have to say that I am female and don't understand the appeal of pictures like this.”

I don't think they were created with straight females as their target market!

Many gentlemen find Ola breath takingly sexy and why shouldn't she do a calendar of this nature-many models/celebrities do

Ola is using her beauty and minor celebrity to make money while she can.
She has hinted that this may be her last year hence why the images are more provocative than the BBC itself has stated it wants.

I also think a calendar of all the male dancers topless and in "sexy" poses would sell rather well , especially if it was tongue in cheek and they were clearly having fun with it.
SweetAngelx
20-10-2015
Originally Posted by Cherrybomber:
“I think you're on a wee mission here love so on you go.

And do please show me the horrified posts when you get one and a link to calendar girls WI photo that most looks like olas soft porn shoot.
”

Is there anything wrong with what you regard as " soft porn?"

Although I do not perceive this calendar as soft porn in all honesty but I concede that is down to personal perception.

If Ola did a calendar dressed in her jim jams with no make up on it may not sell in such large numbers., (although doubtless she would still look beautiful!)
SweetAngelx
20-10-2015
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“I keep meaning to ask, how do we know the BBC are not happy about Ola's calendar? ”

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/...prEkamkMSzSuGY

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...skinny-6654868
SweetAngelx
20-10-2015
[quote=natalian;80057092]They are still traditional latin dance costumes. If latin dance costumes are there to titilate then this will be true of every latin dancer in competition, not just the pro's on Strictly.

All I am saying is that both the men and the women should wear the costume they are given. They shouldn't take them off just to display additional flesh.[/QUOTE]

Well quite.

Inform the church elders if they do!
katt
20-10-2015
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Can anyone answer my earlier question please? How do we know that the BBC disapproves of Ola's calendar?

And I completely agree that female posters on here are much harsher judges of women on the show. And the more attractive the woman in question, the worse it gets. Lisa Snowdon and Kelly Brook spring to mind immediately.

Edit: It's just crossed my mind that Lisa and Kelly did photo shoots that revealed a lot more than Ola, Kristina or Aliona's calendars. Sex sells is the old adage.”

I believe there were a few newspaper articles (and we all know how reliable they are! ) there MIGHT be some links in the "News On Contestants" thread
SweetAngelx
20-10-2015
Originally Posted by katt:
“I believe there were a few newspaper articles (and we all know how reliable they are! ) there MIGHT be some links in the "News On Contestants" thread”

I have provided a link from Digital Spy itself. Surely you are not saying DS itself is not a reliable source

Tbh it's obvious what's going on. This is likely Ola's last year dancing on the show so she has thrown caution to the wind and released a calendar that may not quite be to the BBC's liking.

I think ever since the BBC sacked James (no loss in my opinion as I find him to be charmless and arrogant) the Jordan's may have scant regard for the BBC rule book.
lundavra
20-10-2015
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“I keep meaning to ask, how do we know the BBC are not happy about Ola's calendar? ”

Originally Posted by SweetAngelx:
“http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/...prEkamkMSzSuGY

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...skinny-6654868”

But there is nothing there to confirm that the BBC have said anything.

You see more 'side boob' and even nipples at many red carpet events which are splashed all over the newspapers and some TV programmes and certainly in coverage of many fashion shows.
DiamondDoll
20-10-2015
Originally Posted by SweetAngelx:
“I have provided a link from Digital Spy itself. Surely you are not saying DS itself is not a reliable source

Tbh it's obvious what's going on. This is likely Ola's last year dancing on the show so she has thrown caution to the wind and released a calendar that may not quite be to the BBC's liking.

I think ever since the BBC sacked James (no loss in my opinion as I find him to be charmless and arrogant) the Jordan's may have scant regard for the BBC rule book.”

You did indeed but in spite of reading it twice, I couldn't find any reference to the BBC.

Where is it?
SweetAngelx
20-10-2015
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“But there is nothing there to confirm that the BBC have said anything.

You see more 'side boob' and even nipples at many red carpet events which are splashed all over the newspapers and some TV programmes and certainly in coverage of many fashion shows.”

Quite so, there is no solid proof that the BBC have any problem with the calendar only panelist on the show Craig Revel Horwood himself.

However this statement suggests that the BBC are not entirely happy with some of the dancer individual projects away from the show. The shots come after controversy regarding BBC Executives asking their Strictly Come Dancing stars to tone down their provocative spin-off projects.
In particular, BBC Bosses are said to be worried that 'tacky' spin-off projects are damaging the hit show's wholesome family image
.

You can dismiss the above as a total lie if it suits of course...! I personally think the calendar is a bit of a finger up gesture against the BBC bosses by the Jordans as it is likely Ola's last year employed on the show.
SweetAngelx
20-10-2015
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“You did indeed but in spite of reading it twice, I couldn't find any reference to the BBC.

Where is it?”

In my original OP I cited it was James only who had publicly condemned the calendar.

I later discovered statements such as this in the articles discussing James apparent distaste


The shots come after controversy regarding BBC Executives asking their Strictly Come Dancing stars to tone down their provocative spin-off projects.
In particular, BBC Bosses are said to be worried that 'tacky' spin-off projects are damaging the hit show's wholesome family image.


The statement above can be found in the below link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...6-calendar.htm

But I am not particularly interested in the BBC views on the matter, but that of DS posters..! Hence why the OP states the opinion of James only not that of the BBC.
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