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Adele - am i the only person who thinks WTF ?!
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IWantToBelieve
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Some people just don't get talent.”

So in order to get talent, we have to believe that Adele is absolutely amazing just like she's hyped to be?
Andy2
23-10-2015
I've just heard her new song and it sounds like a quick cash-in on the whole Bond thing. Very Bondy. And does she ever stop shouting? That voice is just out of control.
widger
23-10-2015
Adele is a bargain basement copy of Amy Winehouse who got lucky with her album 21 because there was nothing else interesting being released when it was promoted.

If I hear Rolling In The Deep again I will vomit.

The people who bought Adele's albums are the same idiots who buy records that are released from all the X factor finalists.
cnbcwatcher
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by Rocketpop:
“Like Titanic at the cinema and 50 Shade of Grey on paper 21 entered female folklore and absolutely must by seen/read/listened too - and most men are left shrugging their shoulders, thinking 'huh, how did this get so popular'?”

I'm a woman and I can safely say I've never seen Titanic or read/watched 50 Shades of Gray and have no desire to either. The story of the Titanic (the actual ship) and the historical stuff behind it is interesting but the movie is basically a romance story set in 1912.
differentdrum
23-10-2015
Thought the advert was incredibly pretentious. That said the clip was undeniably soulful and promised much. Unfortunately, once she actually starts singing that promise fades away into something pretty average.
Kirsty_Jones90
23-10-2015
I suppose she caters for a certain market.

I just heard Hello and it sounds as boring as most of the 21 singles. Also she doesn't come across very likeable from the interviews I have seen.
Only like Cold shoulder and Hometown glory myself
Britneyjs12
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by differentdrum:
“Thought the advert was incredibly pretentious. That said the clip was undeniably soulful and promised much. Unfortunately, once she actually starts singing that promise fades away into something pretty average.”


Yous are all full of sh*t.

I mean reading these comments are laughable. I've never read such nonsense.

I could only imagine what is on your ipod/ in your music collection etc.
callmediva
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Some people just don't get talent.”

oh come on! what a ridiculous statement

I spend a lot of time playing festivals and music venues (not that there's many left) and I can tell you that there's mar more talented people struggling, looking for that elusive break.
Getting that break is a matter of hard work and luck, but no matter how hard you work, luck is still the biggest factor. Unless.

Unless you happen to do well on X-Factor or go to the Brit School, which is what Adele did.
Adele hardly ever performs live, you've got to ask yourself why. Is it because her voice has to be corrected, warmed and auto-tuned? If she hadn't taken the easy path of Brit School, she'd have to have worked her way up by playing dingy pubs and clubs and learn the hard way, but she's had it all handed to her on a plate.
konebyvax
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by callmediva:
“oh come on! what a ridiculous statement

I spend a lot of time playing festivals and music venues (not that there's many left) and I can tell you that there's mar more talented people struggling, looking for that elusive break.
Getting that break is a matter of hard work and luck, but no matter how hard you work, luck is still the biggest factor. Unless.

Unless you happen to do well on X-Factor or go to the Brit School, which is what Adele did.
Adele hardly ever performs live, you've got to ask yourself why. Is it because her voice has to be corrected, warmed and auto-tuned? If she hadn't taken the easy path of Brit School, she'd have to have worked her way up by playing dingy pubs and clubs and learn the hard way, but she's had it all handed to her on a plate.”


This post is a prime example of sour grapes. Even worse, it's full of total untruths. Very sad.
calico_pie
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by the chauffeur:
“I just don't get why everyone gets themselves so worked up over this dreary singer. I don't get it all the fuss.
If someone can explain her appeal I'd be grateful, because to me she represents the kind of music I'd expect to hear in M&S.
Have I missed something ?”

No, I don't suppose you are the only one.

Apparently different people just like different things.

Why? Did you think you were special?
supersnake
23-10-2015
The hype is admittedly really irritating and off-putting as it would be with ANY artist. Nobody likes to be told they should or have to like someone. However at the same time I believe that criticism of Adele, because of the overbearing hype surrounding her, detracts from her talent. She is a talented vocalist, i can't think of any other female singers who can sing with such control, conviction and emotion in the lower register of their voice yet be able to tunefully and powerfully belt. And she doesn't shout. Lyrically I find some of her songs to be very thought-provoking and interesting. Hometown Glory is an example of this. I particularly like the simplicity of her lyrics blended with complex melodies that, for me, make her distinguishable as an artist.
konebyvax
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by supersnake:
“The hype is admittedly really irritating and off-putting as it would be with ANY artist. Nobody likes to be told they should or have to like someone. However at the same time I believe that criticism of Adele, because of the overbearing hype surrounding her, detracts from her talent. She is a talented vocalist, i can't think of any other female singers who can sing with such control, conviction and emotion in the lower register of their voice yet be able to tunefully and powerfully belt. And she doesn't shout. Lyrically I find some of her songs to be very thought-provoking and interesting. Hometown Glory is an example of this. I particularly like the simplicity of her lyrics blended with complex melodies that, for me, make her distinguishable as an artist.”


Written singlehandedly at age 16. No co-writer. Look, I don't personally like Gaga's music, it's just not my thing at all but I wouldn't be stupid enough to claim she was untalented. Because I recognise she is very talented.
zerothehero
23-10-2015
Say what you want Adele is talented she does not rely on Auto-Tune, sex or a big production performance to sell her records she uses the power of her heart and past expierences which is very rare in the current musical climate.
stvn758
23-10-2015
I like some of her songs, only noticed her after that BRITS performance of Someone Like You got me.

Don't think much of the latest song, Damon Albarn was right, very middle of the road.
calico_pie
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by callmediva:
“oh come on! what a ridiculous statement

I spend a lot of time playing festivals and music venues (not that there's many left) and I can tell you that there's mar more talented people struggling, looking for that elusive break.
Getting that break is a matter of hard work and luck, but no matter how hard you work, luck is still the biggest factor. Unless.

Unless you happen to do well on X-Factor or go to the Brit School, which is what Adele did.
Adele hardly ever performs live, you've got to ask yourself why. Is it because her voice has to be corrected, warmed and auto-tuned? If she hadn't taken the easy path of Brit School, she'd have to have worked her way up by playing dingy pubs and clubs and learn the hard way, but she's had it all handed to her on a plate.”

So by that logic everyone who goes to the Brit School becomes a big star?

I'm pretty sure that's not the case, so there goes that theory.

I'm not actually much of a fan (don't have any of her albums), but quite liked the new song.

Whatever else, its ridiculous to suggest she has anything other than an incredible voice.

I defy you (or anyone) to watch this (from about 4:30 onwards) and come back and say she has anything other than an incredible voice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0jKEOkN3gk

While we're suggesting that Adele doesn't do many live shows because her voice isn't that great, shall we suggest the exact same thing about, I dunno, Kate Bush?
calico_pie
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by konebyvax:
“Written singlehandedly at age 16. No co-writer. Look, I don't personally like Gaga's music, it's just not my thing at all but I wouldn't be stupid enough to claim she was untalented. Because I recognise she is very talented.”

Exactly this - what usually happens on these forums is that a lot of people can't recognise talent unless they actually happen to like the music.

There are plenty of artists whose music I don't like, but I don't doubt a lot of them are huge talented.
supersnake
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by konebyvax:
“Written singlehandedly at age 16. No co-writer. Look, I don't personally like Gaga's music, it's just not my thing at all but I wouldn't be stupid enough to claim she was untalented. Because I recognise she is very talented.”

I completely agree with you. I think some people struggle to separate subjectivity and objectivity.
robo2
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by widger:
“Adele is a bargain basement copy of Amy Winehouse who got lucky with her album 21 because there was nothing else interesting being released when it was promoted.

If I hear Rolling In The Deep again I will vomit.

The people who bought Adele's albums are the same idiots who buy records that are released from all the X factor finalists.”

thats how i feel about people who bought amy winehouse records, boring sub motown shite, theres absolutely nothing cool about liking amy winehouse - hope that helps
calico_pie
23-10-2015
Well the music I like is better than the music you like, and my brother is bigger than yours anyway so na na na na na.
zerothehero
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by calico_pie:
“Well the music I like is better than the music you like, and my brother is bigger than yours anyway so na na na na na.”

Its a shame in this day and age people cant accept thing can be great even if you dont like them
Double Helix
23-10-2015
Just listened to a bit of Hello. She's shouting, not singing, through much of it, and she sounds like she's been put the autotuner. Her voice has got that tell tale nasty digital edge on it. She sounds like she can no longer use her voice in the way she's used to after her problems, and she's having to force it.

I've never cared for her musically anyway. Nothing against her personally, but just too overhyped to be taken seriously. She's no Shirley Bassey, that's for sure.
my name is joe
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by Rocketpop:
“Like Titanic at the cinema and 50 Shade of Grey on paper 21 entered female folklore and absolutely must by seen/read/listened too - and most men are left shrugging their shoulders, thinking 'huh, how did this get so popular'?”

Thoe are 3 randon unrelated things though. Might equally argue that those who listen to Noel gallagher enjoy box sets of Stevan Seagal movies, and the novels of Desmond Bagley. Whilst women shake their heads wondering "huh, how did this get so popular"
callmediva
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by konebyvax:
“This post is a prime example of sour grapes. Even worse, it's full of total untruths. Very sad.”

Really? please tell me where the "untruths" are
callmediva
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by calico_pie:
“So by that logic everyone who goes to the Brit School becomes a big star?

I'm pretty sure that's not the case, so there goes that theory.

I'm not actually much of a fan (don't have any of her albums), but quite liked the new song.

Whatever else, its ridiculous to suggest she has anything other than an incredible voice.

I defy you (or anyone) to watch this (from about 4:30 onwards) and come back and say she has anything other than an incredible voice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0jKEOkN3gk

While we're suggesting that Adele doesn't do many live shows because her voice isn't that great, shall we suggest the exact same thing about, I dunno, Kate Bush?”

Of course not everyone who goes to Brit School goes on to be famous, but the BS isn't always about singers, you know.

Now first of all I asked a question, I didn't pose a statement. But as it goes, no I don't think she's got an amazing voice, it's above average, but that's it. she has to learn that shouting doesn't equal passion, you can bring passion to a song in different ways.
I'm not going to start going on about her use of auto tune but I know she uses it live, so don't be fooled into thinking what you hear is all her
my name is joe
23-10-2015
Originally Posted by Double Helix:
“Just listened to a bit of Hello. She's shouting, not singing, through much of it, and she sounds like she's been put the autotuner. Her voice has got that tell tale nasty digital edge on it. She sounds like she can no longer use her voice in the way she's used to after her problems, and she's having to force it.

I've never cared for her musically anyway. Nothing against her personally, but just too overhyped to be taken seriously. She's no Shirley Bassey, that's for sure.”

it's very easy to revere artists from the past over those of today, but you can bet yer arse if SB was the big artist today she'd be getting just as much of the "she can't sing she shouts" stuff
(actually that was my mother's opinion and she's sticking to it), not to mention the "she doesn't even write her own songs" (true that ), "she's autotuned, over hyped" and so on blah blah etc and so forth ad infinitum. It's just how it always goes
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