I've always really liked her and stuck up for her the first few weeks, but she really hates not being good at stuff doesn't she.

I mean that's fine I do too, but you come across a lot better if you can be a bit self deprecating about stuff you are very clearly not the best at. (Especially when you are relying on people to vote for you on likeability rather than talent)

Just curious at which point she claimed she was "fabulous"?

About as boring as throwing nasty jibes.

I missed that as well.

Aw, poor wee thing (kind of reassuring that people off of the telly also have to take time off work for poorly children. I tend to assume they all have magic nannies - or magic kids that never get sick at inconvenient times )

If she wasn't being herself, and wanting to be better than what she currently is, then people would accuse her of being false? Seems to me she can't win either way.

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I know you always support the underdogs. And so do I usually. But Kirsty ......I don't know. Just accept the critique without 'sniffing'.

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Arghhhhhhh .. you've used the 'bile' word Mac. Do NOT pass go .. do not collect £200!!!!

I think it was a literal comment this time around. She even said later in her interview 'I was happy enough with my footwork - it was my arms and my head and my positioning [basically everything ankle up] which was the problem'. She even called her hands... was it awful? Ghastly? Something not very pleasant anyway.

I think taking her to task over her remark is an over-reaction.

I don't think she thinks she is fabulous. What she does think is she is progressing in her own small ways and is trying to be positive about herself.

She knows she won't be near perfect like Jay or Peter etc but she is just competiing with herself

True.

I don't dislike her, I don't think there's anything wrong with drive and determination. I loved her on the Games as she was inspirational.

I was just kind of finding it interesting how she comes across differently when she isn't brilliant at something.

Again no criticism I detest not being brilliant at everything I try.

But I was making the point that it probably won't endear her to people

Yes I'd agree with this.

I agree but never let the facts get in the way of allowing cheap jibes. I thought I imagined the fact she was negative about most of her Dance.

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Oops sorry Mac meant Kirsty not you X

Definitely. People usually show a modicum of humility after being in the DO. I was also struck how poorly she came across in the training vid too.

Might be.

However, there was also no humour in the latter remarks. I did a double take, she could have turned it into a joke but that's not how it came across.

And this was then reinforced by the VT. It felt like 'I got it right, most of it, the important bits, and I do a lot and I know.

I reacted live though, we'll see. She seems earnest and without the ability to 'see herself' properly though, at the moment.

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No worries I new what you meant.

I wonder why they decided to show that yet with Jamelia and Tristan it was about how much hard work they were putting in. Hmmm.

I'm sure she meant it literally, i.e. she got all the steps right, but even then it's not correct. It was a bad dance (altho better in the DO) and it was a poor choice of phrase.

She's an alpha female with boundless self-confidence, like a female Ian Botham, and as such seemingly finds it hard to not be brilliant. It's a shame because she's gorgeous, in great shape and quite lively but it just isn't happening for her. Whatever *it* is she hasn't got it.

Kirsty is driving me nuts .
I disliked her whole attitude for two weeks and said so on here (and got telt off for it ). Then I get pangs of conscience and decided last week to give her a break/second chance .
Then she poos on us with a nose-in-the-air attitude that totally grinds my gears and shreds my last remaining nerve re her .
I had thought she lacked confidence . That THAT was her problem . I was willing her to be more assertive . Then there she is on ITT trilling how she didn't put a foot wrong in super confident mode .
Just kill me now FGS !

Rightly or wrongly, perhaps she, along with the rest of the celebs, are foolishly thinking that if they get the dance 'right', then this is what viewers will vote for, rather than how they come across as a person? I'm not saying you're wrong in terms of what a number of people look for before picking up their phone to vote, but I've never heard a contestant say that they'd rather be 'likeable' than get their dancing sorted?

Poorly wife or daughter. Can't recall which.

And you know this for certain I'm assuming??

I think they'd be stupidly naive if they think that. I and highly doubt they do.

Of course their primary objective is to dance well (and dancing well isn't just getting the steps right) but they know they'll only get votes if they are likeable (read Gaby Roslin, DVO) so yes they do need to think about how they come across on ITT and accepting critique

I think she meant that she didn't make any 'mistakes' - not putting a foot wrong in the most literal sense possible. And then she did go on to hold her hands up and admit that she did pretty much everything else wrong. If she'd have thought about it a bit more before saying it, she'd likely have worded it differently because it didn't sound too great on her part.

She can sometimes come across as pretty confident in herself when her performances so far haven't been too much to shout about. Maybe she's just trying to be positive with herself and focus on any good points she can find, no matter how small. It can't be easy wanting to be good and well... not being too good. Being harsh on herself isn't going to do her any favours at all.

I hope she does bounce back this week, and I hope she gets the chance to have a good dance before she goes, whether that's this week or not, because I haven't seen anything from her that makes me have any issue with her.