Why did Brendan say 'when teacher becomes student .. which is pretty much every day'?
He also made mention of the fact that she wanted to be boss. HE is the teacher in this situation .. she should learn to accept it or she won't learn anything. No wonder she's hardly progressing. She thinks she knows best.

Totally respect that, however you said that she "is" abrasive, a slight difference. As I've said on previous posts, i fully respect you and others are entitled to an opinion, just as I'm entitled to tell you that you're wrong.

You're opinion that she thinks she knows best, or a comment based on anything other than the 2min VT shown?

How do you know I am wrong ?

She IS abrasive . In her ITT interview she wasn't talking with Zoe , she was talking AT her very dogmatically . It's sad , but some people are like that 'my way or the highway' and like it or lump it mate . She might indeed be a sweet heart of a person , but for sure her attitude is abrasive and she is very prickly .
Oops . This is all simply my opinion , based on VTs and interviews and Strictly .

The lady whom you're saying is "very abrasive" just happens to be a very good friend of mine. That's how I know!

Well that just makes you biased , and is no proof of anything really .

Well thats fair enough and your opinion .But unfortunately she is coming across as quite tetchy and a tad deluded , If the girl is not at all like that it is a bit of a shame for her .As what we see is someone not very willing to be in the wrong or be corrected .

I do agree that for the most part they should just listen and learn, as the pros are the expert, but the best teachers adapt to their students and teach in a way that they get it, so for me, if a student is asking to do something a different way, then you are teaching them wrong.

Jay said that Aliona just knows what he needs. That is an example of a teacher working out her student and adapting and anticipating.

Indeed it does make me biased, however having known someone for the length of time I have enables me to defend her when she's accused of being "deluded", "abrasive", a "princess" or various other comments I've read. As I've said to others Heather, I totally accept that people are entitled to an opinion, but to state that someone IS of a certain characteristic without any basis of truth to it makes me want to defend her. I'm sure that if someone made a comment about a friend of yours that you knew wasn't true, then you too would reserve the right to tell them that they were wrong?

Wow Home Run. Perhaps if people appreciated what a hard couple of years it appears she has had they would not be as nasty about her.

Appreciate that, and at risk of repeating myself you're fully entitled to an opinion, but that's not the person I know. Determined yes, wanting to do things "right" yes, not a natural dancer or mover, absolutely yes. But some of the things people are saying she is, then sorry, definitely not!!

Absolutely . Knowing you are her pal makes a difference , and you must indeed defend her . I respect that totally .
But I think you need to gird your loins because those of us not in her circle of pals can only judge on what we see .

Oh whatever next.

No .. I repeat .. my opinion is based on what Brendan said!

Well that's what pulled me back from being nasty about her last week . I know she's recently had a marriage break up , so things must be difficult for her , but really things like that won't be taken into account in a dancing competition where attitude and ability to take instruction is paramount .

That's fine, thank you. I'm more than happy to defend a very decent person with a good heart for as long as I need to. I'm not into abusive confrontations, but I'll happily defend a longtime and valued friend if I think that people are saying things which are from my personal experiences incorrect.

Thanks Mac. It's not necessarily about that though. I'm sure the other contestants taking part may have their own personal reasons for taking part, for me it's just defending someone against peoples comments which aren't true.

Poor Gaby Roslin

Unsurprisingly, she is friends with Gabby Logan:

https://twitter.com/GabbyLogan/statu...19862468657152
(mind you, she is also close friends with Katie)

You may be a friend but have you ever tried teaching her anything?

They also showed some clips of Brendan making some mistakes himself - which gives it some context. They always show some daft stuff from training that makes people look bad if you look at it in a certain way. Maybe this is why we don't get proper training footage in the main show anymore!

I don't know what Kirsty is like at all, I just think people are grabbing onto the tiniest of things that she says and does and using it against her which is a shame. I still quite like her but to be honest I hope she does go out of SCD soon, as not only is she not very good but clearly its making some people dislike her which is a shame as I was looking forward to her appearing on the series.

Yes. And your point is?

You can't always take it at face value. Sometimes I have a certain amount of backchat with my dance teacher. It's just friendly repartee. We both know it means absolutely nothing.

Whether or not she comes across as abrasive is in the eye of the beholder surely? I accept that she may not be so off camera but how she is and how she appears to others, especially filtered through TV, is not necessarily the same thing. Richard Madeley always came across as a total pillock on the TV but my old man met him once and said he was a lovely bloke.

I admire you sticking up for your friend, I really do, but I don't think those expressing their opinion are doing so on the basis of no evidence whatsoever.

I think she's quite methodical and intense in the way she approaches things which was ideal for the Games where she was almost machine-like. Trouble is, she's trying to approach Strictly in the same way but it's about so much more than putting your feet in the right place at the right time. She just doesn't get dance and I can understand people getting frustrated at her for not really understanding why - I'm sure she's frustrated too. I think the kindest thing would be to put her out of her misery - and I thought that's what would happen 'til DoD messed up his steps!

Can't say I've taken agin Kirsty though. I think she's alright, liked her on the Games, she's just completely unsuited to the world of dance.