That 'friends' don't always know what a person is like to work with .. especially in a competitive situation.

You sound like a good friend

Thank you, appreciate your sentiment and support. I'm not saying they're not entitled to voice their opinion, obviously based on what they see, but there are ways of expressing that opinion. By saying, "she comes across as abrasive" rather than stating "she is very abrasive" is something someone from my viewpoint could accept, but if she's accused of actually being of a certain flaw, then I'm sorry, but I'm going to defend her.

Agreed. But by the same token, sometime they do.

Thank you Nina, as is she to many others too. Appreciate your kind words, thank you.

Just watched it on catch-up. Certainly not the ideal phrase to use in relation to such a lacklustre performance but I think she was just trying to accentuate the positive which clearly she believes was her footwork.

It was more interesting to me that they showed those 'bossy' training clips of her given that she's just been in the DO.

Perhaps not the best thing this week, with Brendan being absent and all.

Fair enough. I think it's really just internet shorthand though; it would be tedious if everyone had to preface everything they posted with "in my opinion".

It didn't help when she gave out an indignant 'what!!' after getting her scores week 2. Her very reasonable scores as well.
Not sure we've ever seen that from anyone else. It doesn't give the best impression and she's built on it since. She appeared to be criticizing the choice of Paso music this week .. which as we now know was Brendan's choice. Can't imagine he was chuffed about that.

Ok, although given the tone of some of the comments I think you're being a bit generous, but I accept your point.

bottom line ls she chose a terrible phrase / analogy to compare her performance too

and lets face if if Daniel hadn't messed up his DO dance on Saturday night she would have been on Monday with Zoe and being shown her highlights

The thing is .. we vote for the personality as well .. and probably as much as .. the dancing. We may be getting the wrong impression of Kirsty but that's all we have to go on. So how she behaves or comes across .. and how the partnership is working .. are all things that are crucial to the vote.
It's why Judy Murray got to Blackpool .. and why Jeremy will probably get there too. It's also why Gaby Roslin didn't get as far as she might have done. Though she had a lot more dance potential than Kirsty.

I've said somewhere or other before that both she and Iwan have the same mind set, to me, in that they are used to the fact that if you train hard and put in the hours then you improve and putting in the hours and training hard and not improving foxes them. Dancing is more than having a hand in a certain place at a certain time or doing steps in a certain order and, again to me, it seems that they miss that certain something that turns a series of steps into a dance - or makes an imperfect, sloppy routine more enjoyable to watch than one which is step perfect.

Probably if she tries not to be so perfect, it might actually be better?

It was as clear as day (to anyone who listened beyond the few words being discussed here) that she was talking literally in that she got the footwork right but faffed up the hands and the shaping.

Kirsty is very attractive but quite imposing and muscular and so that will probably unconsciously alienate her to some viewers.

No she doesn't. She didn't say she was fabulous. She said that there were issues with the shaping and her arm placement etc and commented about how difficult it is to get everything right. All she said was that she got her footwork right in both the show and in the dance off and that she wished she could achieve that earlier in the week rather than only by the time they get to the live show.

Just watched this on catch up. I think that Kirsty came across as a confident women. I don't think she thinks she is fabulous but there is nothing wrong with being confident. Her remarks about not putting a foot wrong at the start and then went onto say about her hand placement was wrong. That she was annoyed with herself for not doing the dance like that in the first place. The training footage showed her in a bad light, Brendan doing the wrong steps and Kirsty being right. That is few seconds in one day. It is like hearing one part of a phone converstaion and assuming the worst. I once got told on a course that if you are mentoring someone and you have to give them a update on how they are doing if you tell them a positive first, then tell them how they can improve, then they are more likely to listen. If the first thing that you say is a negative then that person is more likely yo tune out and not listen.

Yeah I think that's exactly it aggs. Must be very frustrating. It's not just a series of steps executed in the right order but interpreting the music and expressing emotion though your body. I thinks she needs to stop over-thinking and start feeling instead, but not everyone can.

Seeing the VT on ITT tonight, no wonder Brendan has basically given up with her. Nice face/body, shame about the personality/attitude..................

Awful, just awful attitude................

Yes, I think that's what she meant - she danced the routine without a mistake, even if she danced atrociously. I remember Ann said something similar once

I don't think her build has anything to do with it. I thought she had an attitude on Saturday.

Let's just say that Kirsty isn't coming across well and she is doing herself no favours with her attitude.

You are there to learn girl, and get paid for good TV exposure, not to talk down to your pro dancer, deride the judges scores, and openly criticise your music. Not very endearing to the public. Perhaps she doesn't realise that the public need to like her.

I don't particularly either like her or rate her, but fair's fair, she did listen to the judges on Saturday, and the second try at that Paso was 100% better than the first.

She's also had some lousy music - a waltz without a waltz beat and that abomination she had to try and paso to.

I watched this and what struck me is as well she said she needs to go out and attack the dance. To her it is a problem to attack and conquer this week she was pleased as she thought she did her feet right( sorry Kirsty no you didn't ) in her mind she now needs to attack and conquer the rest of the body so she dances well. That's never going to happen as physically placing her body in the correct place is never going to be a pleasant dance to watch especially if she attacks it with fierce determination.
Almost every dance is danced with joy, even a paso or the tango is danced with the joy of the fierceness of being powerful.
Dance isn't there to be attacked or conquered its there to be enjoyed, lost in, celebrated,
Kirsty hasn't got it at all, she is focused driven and an incredibly successful woman.
However a dancer who is enjoyable to watch she will never be, despite the fact she may in time learn to place her body in the required position in time to the music.
Personally I would rather watch others in the completion, she can go off and attack any dance she likes afterwards where I don't have to watch.

BiB is probably a more accurate way of putting things - and certainly a more conciliatory way of putting them - than your earlier approach along the lines of "you're entitled to your opinion, but you're wrong" (and variants on that theme).

I did gasp a little when Kirsty said that she hadn't put a foot wrong - because there were quite a few things visibly wrong with her dance. However, as she continued talking, she started to put that remark into context. Not as well as I would have expected from a TV presenter, I have to say, but maybe she's more used to working from a script than "extemporising backchat".

Like a couple of others on this thread, I think that the point she was trying to make was that she remembered the footwork part of the choreography - which was a positive point - but she recognises that she needs to work on her hands and arms.

Unfortunately, that's not really the way it came across. And that impression was then aggravated by the VT.

Kirsty has no control over the way those VTs are put together. She does have control over the way she expresses and presents herself on ITT and the main show.

If you know her as well as you say you do - and the internet being the internet, the truth of that claim could be anything from an outright lie to you being Kirsty herself - you might serve her better by telling her how she seems to be coming across on the show, and suggesting ways that she might try to change that.

Telling people on the internet "I respect your right to [lip service, lip service] but you're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong" isn't going to make them feel more kindly towards Kirsty. It's also an attitude which, rather unfortunately, echoes the attitude which has been ascribed to Kirsty.

Kirsty's feet were not the problem. They just forgot to tell the rest of her body there was a dance on.