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Kirsty..... I didn't put a foot wrong
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natalian
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by CravenHaven:
“Kirsty's feet were not the problem. They just forgot to tell the rest of her body there was a dance on.”

I thought it was called a dance off
Tall Paul
21-10-2015
Is she having a laugh?
Paace
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by coppertop1:
“I watched this and what struck me is as well she said she needs to go out and attack the dance. To her it is a problem to attack and conquer this week she was pleased as she thought she did her feet right( sorry Kirsty no you didn't ) in her mind she now needs to attack and conquer the rest of the body so she dances well. That's never going to happen as physically placing her body in the correct place is never going to be a pleasant dance to watch especially if she attacks it with fierce determination.
Almost every dance is danced with joy, even a paso or the tango is danced with the joy of the fierceness of being powerful.
Dance isn't there to be attacked or conquered its there to be enjoyed, lost in, celebrated,
Kirsty hasn't got it at all, she is focused driven and an incredibly successful woman.
However a dancer who is enjoyable to watch she will never be, despite the fact she may in time learn to place her body in the required position in time to the music.
Personally I would rather watch others in the completion, she can go off and attack any dance she likes afterwards where I don't have to watch.”

Great post but I'm afraid she's with the wrong pro to put the emphasis on enjoyment . Herself and Brendan are of similar ilk, both seem very driven, competitive characters .

Great pity she wasn't partnered with Pasha or Alijaz .
lovemymum
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by CornishDunk:
“Perhaps some people learn new skills quicker than others, whether that be music, dance or algebra? Just a thought?”

Are you Kirsty's mother by any chance?

You certainly sound like you are, the way you've defended her on here and berated anyone with an opinion differing from yours.
VirgilHilts
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Great post but I'm afraid she's with the wrong pro to put the emphasis on enjoyment . Herself and Brendan are of similar ilk, both seem very driven, competitive characters .

Great pity she wasn't partnered with Pasha or Alijaz .”

Indeed it is a great post. Kirsty can learn the technique til it's perfect but I just think she lacks the physical grace, fluidity, musicality - call it what you like - that turns 'doing the steps' into 'dancing'.

She doesn't seem to be having any fun at all; training for her seems more like revising for an exam. If Kevin from Grimsby wasn't such a shortarse he would have been perfect for her.
Can Can Canuck
21-10-2015
Wow, she certainly generates strong opinions, but opinions are like arseholes, we all have one

I have found it hard to warm to Kirsty based on what we see, but the unfair criticism she is receiving on this thread and the way that she is being portrayed in the VTs is actually making me want to support her, since she is clearly not a natural born dancer or trained in any way to be one, but is trying her best to learn. I wish I had an ounce of her confidence and drive, yet what I would consider to be strengths appear to be viewed as weaknesses by some. At the end of the day she may not be your favourite but she does not deserve to be vilified because she is not conforming to a stereotype that viewers seem to want.

Put it this way, I'd want my daughter to have such self belief.
BeyonceCastle
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Great post but I'm afraid she's with the wrong pro to put the emphasis on enjoyment . Herself and Brendan are of similar ilk, both seem very driven, competitive characters .

Great pity she wasn't partnered with Pasha or Alijaz .”

I thought that was why they had been paired up as both driven and competitive, she would have put in all the hours that Sunetra possibly didn't/couldn't.
But given her stance on U2 (and I totally agree with her on that) she comes across as ballsy but undiplomatic (Brenda was right there )

I wish I could see her floor work from the games. She must have some musicality, she won that. With her muscles and frame, the paso should have worked much better.
A viennese to this year's love should see her through. But...
the British public do like humility, genuine, humble, self-deprecating, journey, underdog, game, can have a laugh/take the piss out themselves. The more confident, honest, serious, earnest, arrogant, they don't do as well or if they do -cough Jason Donovan cough - they don't win. Ainsley is also doing himself no favours in that department.

Normally you can blame an edit, but both A+K have come across poorly post DO.
RoseAnne
21-10-2015
If Brendan has a family member who is ill this week, than it could be best all round if Kirsty trained with another pro for now. I would be fascinated to see Ian Waite step in and see if he could help.
As others have said, I don't think she gets that just putting your feet in the right place isn't enough and you need to let go and feel the music. iwan had the same problem, just going on about how hard he worked. It's more than that, that's why dance is an art form not a sport.
I wasn't a fan of her but I remember being quite moved when Vanessa Feltz was moved to tears doing a waltz. At that moment, she got what it was about.
Maybe Kirsty should just have one training session whicn involves just moving freestyle to her music in an attempt to "feel it".
TerryM22
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by dancingbearbear:
“Where was Brendan? (Didn't see ITT tonight)”

Probably in the gym trying to get fit after seeing his side profile in that vest he was wearing on the show.
Double_Trouble
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“Probably in the gym trying to get fit after seeing his side profile in that vest he was wearing on the show.”

Yes he looked good didn't he.

Actually his daughter has been in hospital and that's the reason he was not at ITT or the pro rehearsal but don't let your personal dislike stop you from being demeaning to him again.

Family always comes first and I'm sure Kirsty would be the first one to agree with that
MinaH
21-10-2015
She was probably right. She probably didn't put a "foot" wrong: she did the steps she was taught to do and in the correct order.

But the timing wasn't quite right, the arms weren't quite right, the body shaping wasn't quite right. There's also a certain hesitancy and rigidity in her movement. I have the impression she doesn't feel the music. She seems rather mechanical.

With everyone else progressing (apart from Jeremy perhaps) I don't think she has long on the show. There are just not enough duffers to keep her in. Carol is progressing, and she comes across as very likeable. Jeremy is trying, and is also likeable. All the other celebs are better than Kirsty at dancing.

I suspect her apparent lack of feel for the music is matched by her apparent lack of feel for the occasion. She seems a little charmless, a little lacking in empathy, perhaps a little too focused on herself that she misses things with others.
bigalt
21-10-2015
Think ahewqaa right to call the music, they all should. Maybe if enough do,the music might improve, though probably not, alas.
CornishDunk
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by lovemymum:
“Are you Kirsty's mother by any chance?

You certainly sound like you are, the way you've defended her on here and berated anyone with an opinion differing from yours.”


If you've read my posts then you'll know I'm not her Mother. But yes, she is a very good friend of mine. I've not berated people, merely pointed out that when they state that she has character flaws, I'm simply saying they're wrong where I feel appropriate. Any friend would do the same if they saw untruths being said about someone they know.
CornishDunk
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by washboard:
“BiB is probably a more accurate way of putting things - and certainly a more conciliatory way of putting them - than your earlier approach along the lines of "you're entitled to your opinion, but you're wrong" (and variants on that theme).

I did gasp a little when Kirsty said that she hadn't put a foot wrong - because there were quite a few things visibly wrong with her dance. However, as she continued talking, she started to put that remark into context. Not as well as I would have expected from a TV presenter, I have to say, but maybe she's more used to working from a script than "extemporising backchat".

Like a couple of others on this thread, I think that the point she was trying to make was that she remembered the footwork part of the choreography - which was a positive point - but she recognises that she needs to work on her hands and arms.

Unfortunately, that's not really the way it came across. And that impression was then aggravated by the VT.

Kirsty has no control over the way those VTs are put together. She does have control over the way she expresses and presents herself on ITT and the main show.

If you know her as well as you say you do - and the internet being the internet, the truth of that claim could be anything from an outright lie to you being Kirsty herself - you might serve her better by telling her how she seems to be coming across on the show, and suggesting ways that she might try to change that.

Telling people on the internet "I respect your right to [lip service, lip service] but you're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong" isn't going to make them feel more kindly towards Kirsty. It's also an attitude which, rather unfortunately, echoes the attitude which has been ascribed to Kirsty. ”

Appreciate your sentiments, thanks for replying. I'm not her I'm afraid.

Rightly or wrongly I or anyone else she might wish to talk to, won't be telling her how, with the greatest of respect, a minority of fans of the show are saying how she comes across. If I'm permitted to offer my own opinion, then I think she should simply be herself, and continue to enjoy the experience as she is very much doing now.

I'm not naive enough to think that viewers might change their opinion of her merely based on my say so. I'm not around to rustle up votes for her, viewers and posters on here vote for who they like best for a variety of different reasons. I also appreciate it's difficult for someone to portray their true personality on a show when viewers only see a brief insight into their character each week. BUT, if I feel that I need to defend a very good person against unfair personal comments then I will. Any friend would do the same.
MinaH
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by CornishDunk:
“If you've read my posts then you'll know I'm not her Mother. But yes, she is a very good friend of mine. I've not berated people, merely pointed out that when they state that she has character flaws, I'm simply saying they're wrong where I feel appropriate. Any friend would do the same if they saw untruths being said about someone they know.”

If she is a very good friend of yours it must feel strange reading all these comments about her (including from me) from people who don't personally know her - but are analysing every single detail about her (at least in terms of how they perceive her from the television) ... and then in addition there are the "hatahs" and conspiracy theorists.

I recognise that people are likely to behave differently on the television than they do away from television.
CornishDunk
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by MinaH:
“If she is a very good friend of yours it must feel strange reading all these comments about her (including from me) from people who don't personally know her - but are analysing every single detail about her (at least in terms of how they perceive her from the television) ... and then in addition there are the "hatahs" and conspiracy theorists.

I recognise that people are likely to behave differently on the television than they do away from television.”

It does, yes. But I've seen enough on Twitter and other social networks to know that I'd be incredibly naive to think that not every one is say nice things, or things that aren't true. I am genuinely sorry if I have come over as defensive, but I'm just sticking up for a friend.

There's many constructive comments made, but there's also an increasing number of comments which are, in my opinion at least, personal by nature, unwarranted, and untrue. So I'll defend a friend against those quite happily.
Muggsy
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by coppertop1:
“I watched this and what struck me is as well she said she needs to go out and attack the dance. To her it is a problem to attack and conquer this week she was pleased as she thought she did her feet right( sorry Kirsty no you didn't ) in her mind she now needs to attack and conquer the rest of the body so she dances well. That's never going to happen as physically placing her body in the correct place is never going to be a pleasant dance to watch especially if she attacks it with fierce determination.
Almost every dance is danced with joy, even a paso or the tango is danced with the joy of the fierceness of being powerful.
Dance isn't there to be attacked or conquered its there to be enjoyed, lost in, celebrated,
Kirsty hasn't got it at all, she is focused driven and an incredibly successful woman.
However a dancer who is enjoyable to watch she will never be, despite the fact she may in time learn to place her body in the required position in time to the music.
Personally I would rather watch others in the completion, she can go off and attack any dance she likes afterwards where I don't have to watch.”

This is exactly what I've felt from the start, and watching Kirsty come out each week and attempt to battle each dance into submission is a very unpleasant experience.
MinaH
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by CornishDunk:
“It does, yes. But I've seen enough on Twitter and other social networks to know that I'd be incredibly naive to think that not every one is say nice things, or things that aren't true. I am genuinely sorry if I have come over as defensive, but I'm just sticking up for a friend.

There's many constructive comments made, but there's also an increasing number of comments which are, in my opinion at least, personal by nature, unwarranted, and untrue. So I'll defend a friend against those quite happily.”

I only noticed your two comments after I posted my comment. I didn't find those comments defensive. The truth is your comments trump all my comments when I attempt to perceive personality traits of Kirsty - you know her and I don't. I try to be careful by saying "it seems", "it appears". All I can say is I find it strange myself talking about someone that I don't know to someone who knows her very well. I recognise anyone who appears on this show or appears in the public eye must develop a very thick skin - because a few members of the public can be incredibly harsh and abusive - but often the harshest comments come from the "professional" journalists - and there is a lot of them about.
CornishDunk
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by MinaH:
“I only noticed your two comments after I posted my comment. I didn't find those comments defensive. The truth is your comments trump all my comments when I attempt to perceive personality traits of Kirsty - you know her and I don't. I try to be careful by saying "it seems", "it appears". All I can say is I find it strange myself talking about someone that I don't know to someone who knows her very well. I recognise anyone who appears on this show or appears in the public eye must develop a very thick skin - because a few members of the public can be incredibly harsh and abusive - but often the harshest comments come from the "professional" journalists - and there is a lot of them about.”

As odd as this may sound, I don't have any issue with comments saying that she comes across as 'x' or 'y', as everyone sees things differently. However to state that she IS abrasive, or deluded, or various other adjectives is, in my experiences at least, very wide of the mark.
holly berry
21-10-2015
I think Brendan and the trend for over-inflated I-can-rule-the-world-if-I-put-my-mind-to-it self-talk isn't helping things.

Kirsty's comment about not putting a foot wrong suggests to me that Brendan has told her that in an attempt to boost her confidence. Maybe this works for her but I suspect that it doesn't really. She's smart enough to see through it.

It's also difficult to control how you come across on television, not just in terms of how something is edited but also how you manage your nerves and collect your thoughts in front of a camera
mimi dlc
21-10-2015
Reminds me of this gem from morecombe and wise
"I'm playing all the right notes but not necessarily in the right order"
VintageWhine
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by peaceablegenie2:
“I think all she meant by that is she did the steps , didn't make obvious mistakes with her feet like perhaps Jay / Ainsley did. Unfortunately she didn't have the shaping, the hands, etc correct.
Think people are taking her comment in the wrong way”

Exactly.
duckylucky
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by CornishDunk:
“As odd as this may sound, I don't have any issue with comments saying that she comes across as 'x' or 'y', as everyone sees things differently. However to state that she IS abrasive, or deluded, or various other adjectives is, in my experiences at least, very wide of the mark.”

This forum is about Strictly , so I think its fair to say that when we talk about a celeb we are discussing how they are on Strictly or on ITT . We dont know how Kirsty is at home as we dont see her there . I dont think we all have to make sure in every post that we are talking about how they are as we see them on our teli
Maybe Kirsty is a warm fluffy bunny at home but its not how she is coming across on the TV
Bit of a shame if for some inexplicable reason she is coming across as something she is not normally .
petertard
21-10-2015
Kirsty is the sort of person who does not like to be mediocre at anything, and when she is, as in dance, she tries to pretend she is better than she actually is, but even she does not really believe she is any good at dance.
Lucy_James
21-10-2015
I think shes really attractive and seems nice but god is she boring me. Shes a stiff as a board when dancing, no flow from her at all shes not a natural dancer and i think she will go next week although i hope JVine and his dad dancing go before her.

PS. I don't like Brendan at all never have think hes very overated and arrogant.
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