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Kirsty..... I didn't put a foot wrong
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TerryM22
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Lucy_James:
“I think shes really attractive and seems nice but god is she boring me. Shes a stiff as a board when dancing, no flow from her at all shes not a natural dancer and i think she will go next week although i hope JVine and his dad dancing go before her.

PS. I don't like Brendan at all never have think hes very overated and arrogant.”


I wouldn't say that I dislike him, but he does make his partners suffer unfortunately, which is a shame..
jtnorth
21-10-2015
Poor Kirsty. I don't think she's deluded and i don't think she'd be dancing better with another pro. She just doesn't seem to have much feel for the music. Strictly isn't kind to people who can't dance but are too young and beautiful to be in the loveable, good sport, national treasure category. It can't be any fun to go out there when you just don't get it. So I'm not wishing for her that she'll be in it much longer, but that doesn't mean I don't like her.
TerryM22
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“Poor Kirsty. I don't think she's deluded and i don't think she'd be dancing better with another pro. She just doesn't seem to have much feel for the music. Strictly isn't kind to people who can't dance but are too young and beautiful to be in the loveable, good sport, national treasure category. It can't be any fun to go out there when you just don't get it. So I'm not wishing for her that she'll be in it much longer, but that doesn't mean I don't like her.”



Its one of the advantages of being an animal lover and a vegetarian jtnorth, you don't have to watch poor lambs being dispatched in this way every year, I feel so sorry for poor Kirsty.
FunkyFoxtrot
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“I do agree that for the most part they should just listen and learn, as the pros are the expert, but the best teachers adapt to their students and teach in a way that they get it, so for me, if a student is asking to do something a different way, then you are teaching them wrong.

Jay said that Aliona just knows what he needs. That is an example of a teacher working out her student and adapting and anticipating.”




Pehaps this is something Brendan should learn to do. Maybe we should lay some of the blame at his door re Kirsty...
TerryM22
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by FunkyFoxtrot:
“[/b]

Pehaps this is something Brendan should learn to do. Maybe we should lay some of the blame at his door re Kirsty...”

Some! lol
Nina_Blake
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by FunkyFoxtrot:
“[/b]

Pehaps this is something Brendan should learn to do. Maybe we should lay some of the blame at his door re Kirsty...”

Well, to quote the judges, I think he has squandered the potential of previous contestants like Sophie and Sunetra.
FunkyFoxtrot
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“Some! lol”

Well he seems to only put the effort in when he has a "good one".. Perhaps he is not teaching her correctly, not getting the basics grounded etc
BeyonceCastle
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by holly berry:
“I think Brendan and the trend for over-inflated I-can-rule-the-world-if-I-put-my-mind-to-it self-talk isn't helping things.

It's also difficult to control how you come across on television, not just in terms of how something is edited but also how you manage your nerves and collect your thoughts in front of a camera ”

Brendan isn't helping with his post dance orgasms post salsa/post DO, as merely claiming she killed it/is awesome/YES etc comes over as trying to convince the audience/judges before their commentary...yes, pros will support/encourage but acting like you have just done a dance worth 40 every time when it's half that ain't helping. Note he was never that ecstatic about Sunetra who produced some beautiful dances last year. Either he is trying to convince himself or he is trying to fake his way through to counteract the disinterest backlash. Either way it's not working.

As for controlling how you come across on tv
edits ...no
vts...no
nerves...no

collecting thoughts/interviews WHEN YOU DO THIS FOR A LIVING erm..
a) done reality tv in past as competitor and host
b) is a current tv presenter, knows how this shit works, same as Jeremy, Carol, Peter but they all have a built-in fan base and at least two out the three come across as more media savvy. Kirsty perhaps deserves an extra bonus point for honesty as opposed to being insincere as she isn't putting on an act...what you see is what you get. But you can never edit what was not said in the first place, context sure, but nonetheless a perceived lack of humour/non verbal and facial expressions...sometimes the camera doesn't lie.
TerryM22
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by FunkyFoxtrot:
“Well he seems to only put the effort in when he has a "good one".. Perhaps he is not teaching her correctly, not getting the basics grounded etc”



History tells us that some people just can't teach FunkyFoxtrot, mind you he would be superb dancing with a mirror.
BeyonceCastle
21-10-2015
Ah Terry, be fair. Some of his ballroom, especially for an originally Latin specialist, has been beautiful, elegant, gorgeous. His viennese waltz with Sunetra was glorious. His quickstep/foxtrot with Natalie in group dances sublime. I can think of many routines in the last decade where he has produced some lovely choreo. Credit where credit's due.
Also, will always respect the man for supporting Kelly when her father died, defending her, but respecting her wish to keep it private when he must have been tempted to blast the judges' critique of her samba at the time with the reasons behind it. I am not feeling Brendan this series but I cannot take away his work on the show and his support from Lisa, Jo and Kelly.
MACTOWIN
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by pete137:
“She is quite loathsome. I remember after her first dance she was shocked and her face was like "what" at the judges negative comments. She clearly thought her looks would make her breeze through the show but the truth is, she's a bad dancer.”

What a pathetic opening line and the rest are not much better. Sometimes I look at posts and cant believe people can be so nasty this is one of them.
FunkyFoxtrot
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by BeyonceCastle:
“Ah Terry, be fair. Some of his ballroom, especially for an originally Latin specialist, has been beautiful, elegant, gorgeous. His viennese waltz with Sunetra was glorious. His quickstep/foxtrot with Natalie in group dances sublime. I can think of many routines in the last decade where he has produced some lovely choreo. Credit where credit's due.
Also, will always respect the man for supporting Kelly when her father died, defending her, but respecting her wish to keep it private when he must have been tempted to blast the judges' critique of her samba at the time with the reasons behind it. I am not feeling Brendan this series but I cannot take away his work on the show and his support from Lisa, Jo and Kelly.”

You are right, he has done lovely choreography, but apparently only when he can be bothered to put the effort in with his celeb partner sadly
BeyonceCastle
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by FunkyFoxtrot:
“You are right, he has done lovely choreography, but apparently only when he can be bothered to put the effort in with his celeb partner sadly”

But that was the case with Sunetra...for whatever reason but mainly him having to commute to train and fit around her schedule, hard with a baby, he was deemed to have not taken an interest in her as they couldn't win and clearly he wanted Helen this year, he said as much. BUT Sunetra did not teach herself to waltz or foxtrot did she? At least three of her dances were good, admittedly she could sell them.
Also Brendan is noted for being damned good at covering his partners' mistakes and trying to make them look good/steer them back...James Jordan comments on this a lot.
Sarah777
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“What a pathetic opening line and the rest are not much better. Sometimes I look at posts and cant believe people can be so nasty this is one of them.”

Nobody is being nasty. It is true that some celebrities really think they are good dancers or dancing well, when they are not. I am sure we are going to see a different Kirsty, thanks to her friend( forum member).
MACTOWIN
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Nobody is being nasty. It is true that some celebrities really think they are good dancers or dancing well, when they are not. I am sure we are going to see a different Kirsty, thanks to her friend( forum member).”

I take it you don't think calling Kirsty loathsome is nasty.
Sarah777
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“I take it you don't think calling Kirsty loathsome is nasty.”

There are so many people who loath me. It's the reality we live in. For me name calling is nasty. People have the right to dislike people.
Ellie_
22-10-2015
I really really don't think she meant anything horrible by saying that she didn't put a foot wrong. She just needs to realise as a dancer that doing it "correctly" isn't enough. My heart sinks when my dance teacher says "that was correct" because he's saying "you put your feet in the right place but where was everything else?"

She did go on to say that she didn't put a foot wrong but she could see her hands and shaping weren't good enough... so I think she is beginning to realise this anyway. For me, it's better to put more effort in to DANCING the steps and make a mistake than do a "fault free" rendition of the steps that is just placing your feet correctly.
Cally's mum
22-10-2015
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“There are so many people who loath me. It's the reality we live in. For me name calling is nasty. People have the right to dislike people.”

And calling someone one doesn't know, has never met and is never likely to meet 'loathsome' is NOT name calling?

Sheesh.

It's a truly disgusting (and untrue) thing to say.

And anyone who doesn't get that or makes excuses for it really should have a word with themselves.
Miriam_R
22-10-2015
Originally Posted by BeyonceCastle:
“Ah Terry, be fair. Some of his ballroom, especially for an originally Latin specialist, has been beautiful, elegant, gorgeous. His viennese waltz with Sunetra was glorious. His quickstep/foxtrot with Natalie in group dances sublime. I can think of many routines in the last decade where he has produced some lovely choreo. Credit where credit's due.
Also, will always respect the man for supporting Kelly when her father died, defending her, but respecting her wish to keep it private when he must have been tempted to blast the judges' critique of her samba at the time with the reasons behind it. I am not feeling Brendan this series but I cannot take away his work on the show and his support from Lisa, Jo and Kelly.”

Only those three, not the other...what is is...eight contestants aside from them and and Kirsty.

I'm not particularly a fan of Brendan (granted he can do some nice routines now and then) and neither really a fan of Kirsty either(dancing wise that is), but I think people are giving both of them a somewhat harsh time.

They aren't the worst partnership in strictly history and so what if they're not a love in. Brendan still has his own personal tour to look forward to after strictly, but will no doubt beforehand try and help Kirsty through what time she has left on the show. I think by now he knows she's not winning material, so will prob do dances herein where they produce the simple basics and can just hopefully have fun. Kirsty just need to relax more, she seems a bit like a perfectionist, which is all the more harder if you're not good at what you're trying to perfect.
annemarie1066
22-10-2015
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“What a pathetic opening line and the rest are not much better. Sometimes I look at posts and cant believe people can be so nasty this is one of them.”

Apologies. If I am wrong but didn't you start the are Jay and Aliona a couple thread . Considering she is married I thought that was pretty nasty.
None of the celebs or Pros deserve nastiness
Nina_Blake
22-10-2015
Originally Posted by annemarie1066:
“Apologies. If I am wrong but didn't you start the are Jay and Aliona a couple thread . Considering she is married I thought that was pretty nasty.
None of the celebs or Pros deserve nastiness”

I thought the OP wasn't aware Aliona was married?

I didn't know she was until around the second week of this series
duckylucky
22-10-2015
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“There are so many people who loath me. It's the reality we live in. For me name calling is nasty. People have the right to dislike people.”

I cant think of one single person who would loath me for any reason ? Not everyone likes me , some may hate me but why would anyone loath me
Why would so many people loath you ? Loathsome means repellent , despicable , horrible !
Sarah777
22-10-2015
Originally Posted by duckylucky:
“I cant think of one single person who would loath me for any reason ? Not everyone likes me , some may hate me but why would anyone loath me
Why would so many people loath you ? Loathsome means repellent , despicable , horrible !”

For me personally hate is stronger than loath. Who is uses every single word for that exact meaning. I have heard so many people loosely use so many words. We can't have a dictionary corner and ask why did people say such things. I would like to think that person said it because they just don't like to see her on the screen.

How do we even know how many people like us, loath us or even worse hate us.
Life is too short to worry about what others thing about us. Just try and lead a life without trampling on others.
annemarie1066
22-10-2015
Originally Posted by Nina_Blake:
“I thought the OP wasn't aware Aliona was married?

I didn't know she was until around the second week of this series”

Her marriage was mentioned within the first few posts of that thread and it didn't stop the insinuations. Some enjoy a wallow in innuendo but it is a little off to criticise others.
duckylucky
22-10-2015
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“For me personally hate is stronger than loath. Who is uses every single word for that exact meaning. I have heard so many people loosely use so many words. We can't have a dictionary corner and ask why did people say such things. I would like to think that person said it because they just don't like to see her on the screen.

How do we even know how many people like us, loath us or even worse hate us.
Life is too short to worry about what others thing about us. Just try and lead a life without trampling on others.”

People who call other people loathsome really should know the meaning of that word before using it

loathsome
ˈləʊšs(ə)m/Submit
adjective
causing hatred or disgust; repulsive.
"this loathsome little swine"
synonyms: hateful, detestable, abhorrent, repulsive, odious, repugnant, repellent, disgusting, revolting, sickening, nauseating, abominable, despicable, contemptible, reprehensible, execrable, damnable; More
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