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Old 21-10-2015, 06:20
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Has I far as I remember Kathy snd Denise never met each other. So how did Denise know it was Kathy in the cafe?
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Old 21-10-2015, 06:37
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Denise lived with Ian for some time so I'm guessing she recognised her face from the photos in Ian's living room. If they actually know each other then I don't think that's ever been mentioned before and they'd probably have made a bigger deal of it.
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Old 21-10-2015, 09:07
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It was such a strange scene. She didn't exactly seem very surprised to see somebody come back from the dead! (but as my husband said "they're used to it in Albert Square"
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Old 21-10-2015, 09:08
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When the Foxes first appeared in 2006 it was suggested they had lived in Walford for a while just not seen. Grant knew Denise and the pair had a blow up over Grant sleeping with Chelsea.
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Old 21-10-2015, 10:57
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When the Foxes first appeared in 2006 it was suggested they had lived in Walford for a while just not seen. Grant knew Denise and the pair had a blow up over Grant sleeping with Chelsea.
I remember Denise attacking Grant in the Vic over Chelsea, but I don't recall it being mentioned that they already knew each other I thought it was made pretty clear that the Foxes had only recently moved to Walford.
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Old 21-10-2015, 13:02
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I remember Denise attacking Grant in the Vic over Chelsea, but I don't recall it being mentioned that they already knew each other I thought it was made pretty clear that the Foxes had only recently moved to Walford.
I think you're right there - the whole point was that she didn't know Grant, and actually mistakenly thought that Kevin had been the one sleeping with her daughter.

With her scene with Kathy, I'm guessing that she'd seen her picture lots of times before in Ian's house. I take the point, however, that her reaction was too flippant.
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Old 21-10-2015, 13:15
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Well, she was engaged to Ian and lived in the house with him. Presumably he's got press shots of his mum around.
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Old 21-10-2015, 14:05
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She saw photos of Kathy at Ian's im sure
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Old 21-10-2015, 15:13
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Diane Parish played another character in the 90s, perhaps she knows her from then
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Old 21-10-2015, 15:42
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Diane Parish played another character in the 90s, perhaps she knows her from then
Lola the singer oh maybe hehe
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Old 21-10-2015, 15:45
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I thought Denise's reaction to Kathy was poor and unrealistic.
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Old 21-10-2015, 15:59
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It was more comedy - me and my mum burst out laughing.
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Old 21-10-2015, 16:10
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I thought Denise's reaction to Kathy was poor and unrealistic.
To be fair, Denise has never met Kathy so she doesn't know her personally.
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Old 21-10-2015, 16:13
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I think it's ridiculous how people have reacted to Kathy being alive. The very fact she worked at the caff last night when people still think she's dead, including the police, was absolutely ludicrous. I am glad she came back but the way they are handling it is making me hate it
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Old 21-10-2015, 16:23
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To be fair, Denise has never met Kathy so she doesn't know her personally.
Sure, but she did know of her, as her ex fiancés dead mother.

Its highly unlikely if you saw your (ex) partner's dead mother you'd be so blasé about it.
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Old 21-10-2015, 16:31
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It was definitely an underwhelming interaction
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Old 21-10-2015, 16:49
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To be fair, Denise has never met Kathy so she doesn't know her personally.
But she dated Ian for about two years and likely saw photos of her. If i dated a man whose mother had died and then she turned up alive, I would be like WTF
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Old 21-10-2015, 16:55
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I'm assuming she had already heard about her being alive maybe? Hence her not looking so shocked when she saw her.
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Old 21-10-2015, 16:55
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She should have said is Lucy under the counter?
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Old 21-10-2015, 17:45
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I thought Denise's reaction to Kathy was poor and unrealistic.
It seems like it was done for comic relief more than anything. Not everyone will react to Kathy's death with awe and surprise. Denise being Denise, she's had enough shock to last her a lifetime (I'm talking about Lucas specifically), and because she's become completely indifferent to the Beale family, she simply does not care enough to feel shocked. To her, this is just another day in Walford. She didn't know Kathy and when she was with Ian she wasn't completely into his family so there's nothing there to make her feel feeling, if that makes sense.
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Old 21-10-2015, 18:34
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When the Foxes first appeared in 2006 it was suggested they had lived in Walford for a while just not seen. Grant knew Denise and the pair had a blow up over Grant sleeping with Chelsea.
The Foxes didn't know anybody before arriving in Albert Square. Chelsea met Grant onscreen and starting dating him, when Denise found out she was furious and arrived to confront Grant. She mistook Kevin Wicks for being Grant at first.

As for Kathy and Denise, Denise spent 12 months living in Ian's house and Ian's living room is full of pictures of Kathy which Denise would have looked at every day. It also helps that Kathy hasn't aged at all since those pictures were taken in the 80s and 90s. So it made perfect sense that Denise would recognize her, it was an odd scene though it that Denise didn't even seem surprise.
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Old 21-10-2015, 18:36
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When the bloody hell did grant sleep with Chelsea?
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Old 21-10-2015, 18:40
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When the bloody hell did grant sleep with Chelsea?
It was the family's very first storyline. Chelsea first appeared as Grant's new girlfriend and that lead to Denise's arrival when she found out Chelsea was dating a man twice her age she came to confront him.

If Ian and Denise had married making Ian Chelsea's stepfather that would have meant Grant had slept with three different generations of Ian's family. His mum Kathy, his wife Jane and his stepdaughter Chelsea.
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Old 21-10-2015, 19:49
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Another funny thing with regards to Kathy's return was when she and Ian went to the police station and later Kathy came out saying they would look into it, meaning her fake death. I thought, as if that would happen in real life too! The police wouldn't just let someone go like that.
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Old 21-10-2015, 22:22
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Another funny thing with regards to Kathy's return was when she and Ian went to the police station and later Kathy came out saying they would look into it, meaning her fake death. I thought, as if that would happen in real life too! The police wouldn't just let someone go like that.
You're aware she didn't tell them, though?
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