will the Live Tour version do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMmCfYvMRNI

Did Zoe Ball have any training? I thought she was a beautiful dancer.

That'll do nicely, brill. and the hair was awesome!

[Q UOTE=Selena;80072882]Also last year wasn't James supporting Caroline and saying on twitter that the press were being unfair to her and bullying her because of her dancing background? Don't get me wrong I wanted Caroline and Pasha to win but as others said James' view on previous experience seems to differ from series to series.[/quote]

You are totally right 😀 James can flip flop when it suits him 😀
He is just a big mouth 😵

Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that before. Shame she didn't get to do that on the show.

fredster - I think there was a story about Zoe in the papers having had training before the series started, but I don't know if it was true or not.

Does anybody actually care what James says he is no longer part of the show

Well that's one word for him.

I don't know for certain, but I think people have said she took some ballroom lessons after signing up.

I don't think she had any dance training before that (stage schools etc)

She was reported to have taken lessons after signing up but before the official training time start.
True - who knows.
If true, sensible? - definitely.
But she took a heck of a lot of flack for it.

I know he doesn't get on with most people but Kristina is news to me. What has she done to offend the Lord Pitt of the dance?

Is that rhyming slang?

Ta muchly such a shame, she was fab (but I prefer Jay's overall, although Natalie's hair was unbeatable)

I do take your point and it is a valid way to look at it.

BIB
When they 'outed' Helen - as you say - it was to explain how having done Ballet made it more difficult for her to learn Ballroom and Latin.

The show has very rarely delved into celeb's dance histories during the show or ITT. If they did, then they would end up being accused of bias because they didn't assess everyone exactly correctly or give them all equal publicity.

The producers are the ones who make the decisions and run the show. Even more so than in previous years, the celebs/pros have less input. The producers are the ones that the complaints should be directed towards.

It is not a dance contest, but is based (or was) on a dance learning contest. The decision in the final is purely on public voting. There has been publicity in several 'newspapers' about the previous dance experience of several of the dancers - particularly Jay and Helen, so people who are interested in Strictly may be aware of the past experience of some of the celebs.

The whole emphasis of Strictly seems to me to have been drifting away from the original remit, and I would prefer that it went back to what it was like in Series 9 and earlier.

My 2 favorites are on tonight + Ian's warm-up -Perfect show

Not sure what has happened between them in the past, but he made a 'joke' at the the start of this series along the lines of how she had obviously been paired with DoD to stop her sleeping with her partner. And fair enough, it's very possibly true, but to say it publicly about a former colleague and someone your wife is still working with on a regular basis is pretty poor behaviour.

I think Abbey did too.

Makes perfect sense: if I was going to run a marathon live on prime-time TV I'd get my running shoes on and start training sooner rather than later.

And so did Austin if I remember correctly.

I don't care whether people have dance experience, as long as it isn't in ballroom and/or latin. However, if they did it (ballroom/latin) when they were 10, I wouldn't have a problem with that. The press just like picking experience up and it is just ridiculous, surely they should be reporting on things like the Steel industry crisis and the tax credit row instead of James Jordan's nonsense?

Haha, no! Apparently he called himself "the Brad PItt of the dance world" at some point in the past.


Agree, true or not he should have kept his gob shut.

Why should James "keep is gob shut"? He was being interviewed for Best magazine and presumably it wanted to know his opinions. I agree with him. I read his tweets during the live show and agreed with his assessment too most of the time.

For all of you slating what he says, did you notice the result of the Mirror's poll? 75% of voters think celebs with dancing training should NOT be used on the show. So those of you who don't mind the celebs with dancing training appear to be in the minority.

And as for the argument that the show has always had celebs with dance training, show me a year before this one with so many celebs with dance training. Why not just admit it is now more the norm for celebs to have some dance training and celebs like Carol, Ainsley, Jeremy, etc. are at a disadvantage when it comes to the scoring? Not every celeb can be a Katie. Why not stop trying to justify previous dance training and accept this is one aspect of the show which has changed? It can be a change for the better for some, but not for others, but either way it's better than trying to justify the truth about celebs with dance training.

You are totally right 😀 James can flip flop when it suits him 😀
He is just a big mouth 😵[/quote]

James didn't complain about his former partner Denise Van Outen being a trained dancer - and he supported the trained dancer Caroline last year and has decided to support an experienced performer this year. He obviously does not like Aliona - the same as he dislikes Kevin. Hypocritical of him to say the least!!

Come on, Mark Cavendish!

But that wouldn't be his opinion if he or Ola were on the show dancing with someone with training. Isn't that hypocritical? He doesn't have a problem with Jay's training, he has a problem with Jay not being Peter, his pal.

The first year I watched it, the show was won by Jill Halfpenny. Did Jill have less training than any of the people on this year? I doubt it.

Sold more calendars than his wife? Or turned him down.

If that was a serious I guess you don't watch Celebrity Big Brother. James Jordan appeared on the show and described himself as "the Brad Pitt of the dance world". It was one of his more endearing moments too.