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Old 21-10-2015, 12:53
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If the ghk ends up being Lindsey then I'm guessing a lot of people will be disappointed as they have already guessed. On the other hand, if it is a complete curve ball for example Holly then again I'm guessing people will be disappionted for various reasons, so can Hollyoaks win with the outcome of the story?
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Old 21-10-2015, 13:02
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I don't think people will be disappointed if they guess correctly or even if it is somebody way off the radar.

I think the greater sense of disappointment (or not) will be dependant on what the back story and motivations are. If the reasoning is rubbish then people will hate it but if it is cleverly done and joins the dots of other recent events and plot lines it will be a winner whoever it is.
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Old 21-10-2015, 13:15
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I will be extremely disappointed if it's Kim.
If it's Lindsey, Celine or Tegan I will be pleased.
They need to do some more development on the reasons though, Lindsey has more reasons than the other 2, but even still that is what they need to do between now and the killer being caught, whenever that may be.
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Old 21-10-2015, 13:16
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I will be disappointed if its Kim

anyone else will be ok with me
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Old 21-10-2015, 13:18
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If the ghk ends up being Lindsey then I'm guessing a lot of people will be disappointed as they have already guessed. On the other hand, if it is a complete curve ball for example Holly then again I'm guessing people will be disappionted for various reasons, so can Hollyoaks win with the outcome of the story?
Some people will have guessed, some will not. Some people read the internet spoilers, some do not.

It's just a soap... I would imagine the actual reveal will be less important than what happens next?
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Old 21-10-2015, 13:39
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I think the only way they can "win" is if it's Celine - and even then, her fans would be disappointed as it would mean that she'll be leaving the show fairly soon.

If it's Kim or Lindsey, people will complain that it was too obvious, and/or that the killer was supposed to be Celine (Like how everyone insisted Patrick was to have been Nico's father originally)

If it's Tegan, the Ziggy/Tegan fans will hate it

If it's someone else, people will complain it makes no sense ...
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Old 21-10-2015, 13:46
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I think the only way they can "win" is if it's Celine - and even then, her fans would be disappointed as it would mean that she'll be leaving the show fairly soon.

If it's Kim or Lindsey, people will complain that it was too obvious, and/or that the killer was supposed to be Celine (Like how everyone insisted Patrick was to have been Nico's father originally)

If it's Tegan, the Ziggy/Tegan fans will hate it

If it's someone else, people will complain it makes no sense ...
BIB: I know someone who worked on the show at the time that the Nico/Sienna SL was on TV and they said it was always the intention to have Patrick be the father but, when the audience guessed, they changed it for shock value.
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Old 21-10-2015, 14:29
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I think the only way they can "win" is if it's Celine - and even then, her fans would be disappointed as it would mean that she'll be leaving the show fairly soon.

If it's Kim or Lindsey, people will complain that it was too obvious, and/or that the killer was supposed to be Celine (Like how everyone insisted Patrick was to have been Nico's father originally)

If it's Tegan, the Ziggy/Tegan fans will hate it

If it's someone else, people will complain it makes no sense ...
for me, personally, I think whoever the GHK turns out to be, as long as their reasons make sense.......... - I mean, there is NEVER a good reason for killing people but you know what I mean - well, I hope you do - I mean, as long as the reason is genuine, or the killer believes what they are doing is genuine - not just a "shrug, I didnt like them so I killed them" kinda thing

now I am not sure I am making sense I know what I am trying to say just not sure it is coming across correctly!
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Old 21-10-2015, 14:50
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for me, personally, I think whoever the GHK turns out to be, as long as their reasons make sense.......... - I mean, there is NEVER a good reason for killing people but you know what I mean - well, I hope you do - I mean, as long as the reason is genuine, or the killer believes what they are doing is genuine - not just a "shrug, I didnt like them so I killed them" kinda thing

now I am not sure I am making sense I know what I am trying to say just not sure it is coming across correctly!
I don't think there needs to be a reason as such. Murderers kill for all sorts of reasons. But I thought there was a logic or pattern in the victims being people who had done bad things. Then people like Phoebe didn't fit into that so I'm a bit confused about the killers thinking.
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Old 21-10-2015, 14:52
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Considering this was a mystery that HOs wanted viewers to guess, then a success would be if it makes sense, not if it is a shock. The viewers would want to know whether they were right or wrong based on what was shown.

Apparently they picked the killer at the start and didn't change their mind, so the writing should have always been hinting at that character and putting in a few misdirections.

If they knew from the start, it all needs to make sense and even though BK doesn't have a high opinion of his viewers, as they set up a mystery storyline there needs to be a chance of the viewers getting it right, not them showing a shock twist in the end where nothing makes sense from what we saw in the past.
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Old 21-10-2015, 14:57
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I don't think there needs to be a reason as such. Murderers kill for all sorts of reasons. But I thought there was a logic or pattern in the victims being people who had done bad things. Then people like Phoebe didn't fit into that so I'm a bit confused about the killers thinking.
reason was the wrong word - logic was the word I was searching my tiny brain for and it wouldnt come so thank you
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Old 21-10-2015, 15:25
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I think fans of said character who is GHK will be disappointed as long term it means they won't be able to stay.

The problem HO has is death is meaningless as it happens to often to have a effect to any degree and it's sacrificed some characters who imo shouldn't never of been chosen.
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Old 21-10-2015, 15:25
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I'll be disappointed if its any of the suspects.

I will be most entertained if its Kath. Would love to see the extremes BK will try and play that one out LOL.
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Old 21-10-2015, 15:47
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It seems to be down to Kim and Lindsey and so at this point it won't be a shock whichever it is.

I think they've tried to be too cute with it with red herrings for some time, especially this week, and unless the backstory and reasoning is really, really good then in my opinion they have tarnished what could have been a great reveal/story.
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Old 21-10-2015, 16:10
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I think fans of said character who is GHK will be disappointed as long term it means they won't be able to stay.

The problem HO has is death is meaningless as it happens to often to have a effect to any degree and it's sacrificed some characters who imo shouldn't never of been chosen.
Agreed.

bib: True. The likes of Theresa, Nico, Sienna and any Rosoce with the exception of Juicy Joe, would have sufficed!

I still think Lindsey is the killer.
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Old 21-10-2015, 16:16
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do E4 viewers find out tonight?
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Old 21-10-2015, 16:17
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The problem HO has is death is meaningless as it happens to often to have a effect to any degree and it's sacrificed some characters who imo shouldn't never of been chosen.
This ^^^^^

Lives are way too cheap in HO. Just look at Trevor as an example, we are accepting of a character that kills/killed as part of his day to day work. Murders etc worked well in the days of Silas because they were more suspense thrillers and not so common.
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Old 21-10-2015, 16:46
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BIB: I know someone who worked on the show at the time that the Nico/Sienna SL was on TV and they said it was always the intention to have Patrick be the father but, when the audience guessed, they changed it for shock value.
I'm deviating from the topic but that would have made more sense, will found out a secret about Patrick and Sienna and he nearly revealed it when he had them all hostage at the house. He was telling Patrick he had to confess and pasteurised started talking about how he and Sienna had been lonely and Sienna asked him to stop as "they wouldn't understand ". With the reveal of dodger as the father, this secret was conveniently forgotten about. However horrible it is, it still always made more sense than having dodger as the father.
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Old 21-10-2015, 16:46
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do E4 viewers find out tonight?
Yes, but it could be at the end of the episode.
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Old 21-10-2015, 16:57
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What about the characters? Is it just the audience that finds out?
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Old 21-10-2015, 16:57
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I'll be disappointed if its any of the suspects.

I will be most entertained if its Kath. Would love to see the extremes BK will try and play that one out LOL.
That would be hilarious
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Old 21-10-2015, 17:02
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Yes, but it could be at the end of the episode.
fab, thank you
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Old 21-10-2015, 17:26
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What about the characters? Is it just the audience that finds out?
Nancy's nephew Charlie saw the killer inject Dr S'avage but has kept quiet. Only the viewers will find out tonight and the characters find out next year I believe.
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Old 21-10-2015, 17:28
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Agreed.

bib: True. The likes of Theresa, Nico, Sienna and any Rosoce with the exception of Juicy Joe, would have sufficed!

I still think Lindsey is the killer.
Bib and robbie.

Aside from that I agree. You should have been the GHK
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Old 21-10-2015, 18:06
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Nancy's nephew Charlie saw the killer inject Dr S'avage but has kept quiet. Only the viewers will find out tonight and the characters find out next year I believe.
He saw what happened but I don't think he could identify the killer, who was wearing a Tony mask and a hoodie.
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