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HO E4 *GHK Unmasked!!* SPOILER
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lollipop1995
21-10-2015
So it was...
LINDSEY!

Excellent storyline HO and it really had me guessing up until the last minute! I'm delighted it wasn't Celine as I really suspected her at the end. Lindsey never gave away any signs of being crazy so this is really shocking even though I'd narrowed it down to it being either her or Celine.

On one hand I'm glad it's Lindsey. It obviously all links back to what happened to Kath. I wondered all along why Kath's brain damage seemed to have no effect whatsoever on Lindsey. It seemed to only damage Kim but obviously it's had a much huger impact on Lindsey! She was just better at masking her craziness and seemed totally normal.

On the other hand, it's a shame as Sophie Austin is a great actress and Lindsey was fantastic away from the Roscoes. Also she killed Snuggles! I guess this will mean the end of Lindsey now though. If it all links back to Kath (which it has to!) then maybe she could go to a mental health hospital. I think tomorrow hopefully will reveal why Lindsey killed 8 people and we will find out she's really extremely dark and crazy (more so than Kim as Kim hasn't killed anyone). Speaking of Kim, how did she find out it was Lindsey?!

ANYWAYS...

Are you happy about it being Lindsey? My gut instinct did say it was her but I was so fearful of it being Celine towards the end as I really like her character. I'm excited as this will mean there'll be more exploration with Kath as this is how Lindsey became like this, I'd imagine. She was only 9 and has lived with the accident being her fault nearly her whole life.
NoughtiesMusic
21-10-2015
If it improves her character I'm all for it. Tonight's E4 episode was really gripping. The dual scenes between Kim/Grace and Lindsey/Freddie made it seems ambiguous, until you found out Kim was talking about Ashley Davidson.

Just a shame Phoebe was killed off during this storyline. That's possibly the only criticism I have of it.
lady_xanax
21-10-2015
I just don't find Lindsey menacing or bold enough to kill so many people in the hospital and risk people finding out.
zerothehero
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by lady_xanax:
“I just don't find Lindsey menacing or bold enough to kill so many people in the hospital and risk people finding out.”

Rewatching her role in Browning's death
lollipop1995
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by zerothehero:
“Rewatching her role in Browning's death”

From what I recall, Lindsey went to pieces over Browning dying, will have to rewatch some scenes!
lady_xanax
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by zerothehero:
“Rewatching her role in Browning's death”

I still don't find her menacing here. What I don't understand was why the identity of the GHK was kept under wraps as if there was going to be a twist.
Lolly_Du_Beke
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by NoughtiesMusic:
“If it improves her character I'm all for it. Tonight's E4 episode was really gripping. The dual scenes between Kim/Grace and Lindsey/Freddie made it seems ambiguous, until you found out Kim was talking about Ashley Davidson.

Just a shame Phoebe was killed off during this storyline. That's possibly the only criticism I have of it.”

Your last sentence... I have one word.

Snuggles.
gentleguy
21-10-2015
there still isnt a motive for most of the murders.
sorcha_healy27
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by lady_xanax:
“I still don't find her menacing here. What I don't understand was why the identity of the GHK was kept under wraps as if there was going to be a twist.”

The most chilling killers are those who seem Perfectly normal. Ted Bundy for example was a good looking charming man who worked on a good samaritan helpline
emzi27
21-10-2015
Why did she kill phoebe?
seventhwave
21-10-2015
To the tune of Lady Gaga ...

Quote:
“I'm gonna murder my bug-eyed hubby Freddie
Only fancied him cos he offed poor Grace's daddy
I've been round the village bumping off half the people
Blue latex gloved hand scourge of Dee Valley Hospital
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh, tweens think Fred's hot, but he is so not
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh, time to kill the cheating twot
Can't read my, can't read my, no they can't read my Butterface”

kitkat1971
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by gentleguy:
“there still isnt a motive for most of the murders.”

We might get one tomorrow.

But in all honesty, i'm not sure there have to be 'motives' - serial killers often don't have them. The first murder has a motive (and it seems she killed Rick because of Joe's attack on him, possibly to get Joe convicted so she could be with Freddie and keep the baby) and then they just get addicted to the 'thrill' of it.
sorcha_healy27
21-10-2015
Bryan kirkwood said the motives would come out in the weeks final episode
xTonix
21-10-2015
Killer or not, Lindsey is one hot woman.
Eastenderstreet
21-10-2015
everyone thought Beverly Allitt was nice too and certainly unsuspecting at first

not all killers have an obvious craziness about them
nickymonger
21-10-2015
Rick - Protecting Jason and helping put Joe away? Believing he was a bad dad anyway.
Will - He was evil
Diane - Protecting Tegan? This one she has the poorest reason!
Marion - Again, believing her switch of the babies and lack of remorse, and it impacting Tegan was enough?
Phoebe - She survived where her sister didn't. A jealousy attack?
Dylan - Payback to Trevor?
Dr Snuggles - To protect her secret
seventhwave
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by nickymonger:
“Rick - Protecting Jason and helping put Joe away? Believing he was a bad dad anyway.
Will - He was evil
Diane - Protecting Tegan? This one she has the poorest reason!
Marion - Again, believing her switch of the babies and lack of remorse, and it impacting Tegan was enough?
Phoebe - She survived where her sister didn't. A jealousy attack?
Dylan - Payback to Trevor?
Dr Snuggles - To protect her secret”

Lindsey thought Diane should share in the blame for Katy's death - and Diane lied to the police to protect Finn, despite knowing he was guilty.

Mariam not only switched Diane and Tegan's babies, but was regularly drinking on the job, putting other people's children in danger too. She'd also worked out that there was a killer in the hospital.

There's also Esther; Lindsey could have been hitting out at Kim, or maybe she thought that as Esther's fiancee Kim would get custody of Curtis
Amazee-Dayzee
21-10-2015
Rick - She believed he was a bad father so she took him out

Will - Terrorized his own niece and killed his wife

Diane - Slept with Lockie while he was married to Porsche and Diane was married to Tony

Mariam - No remorse for swapping Dee Dee and Rose

Phoebe - She came out of her ordeal without brain damage where Kath is in a home somewhere

Esther - Withholding Curtis from his biological parents

Dylan - He was in the police van that caused the accident Kim was in

Ashley - Same reason as Phoebe because she came out of her head injury without brain damage

Charles - To keep her secret

Freddie - Thought he was running off with Mercedes

What I don't get is why the hell didn't Mariam fight back. She didn't look drugged or drunk and if someone shoved a needle filled with a drug that feels like you are being injected with the fires of hell, I would fight.
pudge2
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Amazee-Dayzee:
“Rick - She believed he was a bad father so she took him out

Will - Terrorized his own niece and killed his wife

Diane - Slept with Lockie while he was married to Porsche and Diane was married to Tony

Mariam - No remorse for swapping Dee Dee and Rose

Phoebe - She came out of her ordeal without brain damage where Kath is in a home somewhere

Esther - Withholding Curtis from his biological parents

Dylan - He was in the police van that caused the accident Kim was in

Ashley - Same reason as Phoebe because she came out of her head injury without brain damage

Charles - To keep her secret

Freddie - Thought he was running off with Mercedes

What I don't get is why the hell didn't Mariam fight back. She didn't look drugged or drunk and if someone shoved a needle filled with a drug that feels like you are being injected with the fires of hell, I would fight.”

Pretty sure Mariam was on the trail of suspicious deaths iirc.
Vera Bennett
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by lady_xanax:
“I just don't find Lindsey menacing or bold enough to kill so many people in the hospital and risk people finding out.”

At first I didn't know who the killer has been this year so it's hard to know.

It's only this week that it's seriously occurred to me it might be Lynsey and now it is chilling but brilliantly done and as it has we are starting to see a glimpse into this dark queen inflicting death.
Lynsey has been Dr Death in the hospital and especially the last few episodes when I suspected her it's been incredible seeing behind the smiling face the mind of a serial killer. I will need to watch some of the episodes again but remember phoebes death that phoebe was smiling at the person who came in and it makes sense now that Lynsey was the one in that room - while Phoebe was thinking she couldn't be in safer hands - Lynsey while outwardly seeming the caring professional was secretly and knowingly killing phoebe - hollyoaks really has excelled itself with this storyline.

I can't wait to find out what has caused Lynsey to evolve darker and darker.

Sophie Austin is brilliant in the role and the best thing hollyoaks could do is give her a new contract to stay for another couple of years.
I will be livid if they just finish the storyline in a couple of weeks though I hope it goes on for a year or so it's riveting stuff and let's face it killers in hollyoaks do not always get caught.
Take warren fox, he was not a serial killer but a mass murderer and it was years before he got caught
Dr Browning got away with murder for some time as well
gentleguy
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“We might get one tomorrow.

But in all honesty, i'm not sure there have to be 'motives' - serial killers often don't have them. The first murder has a motive (and it seems she killed Rick because of Joe's attack on him, possibly to get Joe convicted so she could be with Freddie and keep the baby) and then they just get addicted to the 'thrill' of it.”

yes thats so true.
OminousGlory
21-10-2015
Cindy and Lindsay are close friends so I'm really looking forward to scenes between them as Cindy knows there's a killer around.
sirgockster
21-10-2015
I'm glad it was not Celene, It would have been very difficult to drool over a killer but not impossible
owen10
21-10-2015
Could there be one final twist in this storyline Well it is Hollyoaks afterall
VIP101
22-10-2015
I disagree with most people's reasons on here. I think the more realistic ones are these -

Rick - Killing him would get Joe out the way maybe, and she believed he was a bad father.

Will - Was a killer and terrorised so many people and belived he deserved to die as the world would be better without him.

Diane - Covered for Fin and wasn't very caring for anyone but herself. Also, getting Diane out the way could have sent Porsche down as they where having beef at the time over Mercedes murder.

Mariam - She was onto the fact there was a killer on the loose, also, she swapped two babies & caused pain for others.

Phoebe - [This is when it was reported the tactics changed & it was reported she wasn't killing 'bad' people] Phoebe was a witness in the shooting and if she spoke it could have crumbled the cover up. This murder wasn't actually just a tactic change but a personal reason to benefit herself and the lies she was involved in.

Esther - This one is the hardest to understand. I doubt it was because she was keeping the baby as she had just gave birth and Lindsey hates Trevor & Grace. Maybe it was because she could tell Kim was loosing the plot or maybe it was because she wanted the thrill of another kill, the addiction kicked in and she needed to satisfy her erg.

Dylan - Another addiction killing? Maybe to punish Trevor more? Maybe to help Kim out as they had beef at the time?

Ashley - Knew very little about her, from that it was she was a bad person, or may have just been another addiction killing.

Charles - He was onto her. She needed to keep her secret.

Freddie - After finding out he was about to run off with Mercedes she realised she had killed people because of him and it was all his fault. It's about time he was punished for his bad deeds. He needed to be gone.
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