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HO E4 *GHK Unmasked!!* SPOILER
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VIP101
22-10-2015
Originally Posted by Amazee-Dayzee:
“Rick - She believed he was a bad father so she took him out

Will - Terrorized his own niece and killed his wife

Diane - Slept with Lockie while he was married to Porsche and Diane was married to Tony

Mariam - No remorse for swapping Dee Dee and Rose

Phoebe - She came out of her ordeal without brain damage where Kath is in a home somewhere

Esther - Withholding Curtis from his biological parents

Dylan - He was in the police van that caused the accident Kim was in

Ashley - Same reason as Phoebe because she came out of her head injury without brain damage

Charles - To keep her secret

Freddie - Thought he was running off with Mercedes

What I don't get is why the hell didn't Mariam fight back. She didn't look drugged or drunk and if someone shoved a needle filled with a drug that feels like you are being injected with the fires of hell, I would fight.”

Disagree with most of these reasons.
owen10
22-10-2015
Im sure there other people she could kill like Joe because he could take her son away from her Jack for selling the pub as there would be no where else to drink Sienna for being a Psycho Nico for being an even bigger Psycho Patrick for abusing Maxine and Lisa Loveday for pretending to be the long lost Daughter
09beyoncefan
22-10-2015
Rick - for Jason, also the "god complex" as he wasn't a good father to her brothers in law
Will - god complex again, he was an evil killer
Diane - god complex on a lesser scale, Diane had hurt her friend Tegan, also covering up for Finn, Diane isn't a great person in general
Mariam - too close to finding the truth, also god complex again as her mistake caused the stress for Tegan/Diane
Phoebe - she saw the shooting, still can't really think of anything more!
Esther - agree that by this point it was a thrill, she wanted to kill again
Dylan - for KIm? Or again, just the rush
Charles - obvious one, she had to keep herself under wraps
Freddie - he was going to leave her for her best friend


I suppose when you look at it, Lindsey had the most motives and I did always know it would be her... But still some of these motives are weak and it seems a bit of a jump for Lindsey to suddenly be a killler. Overall though, I'm happy, it feels like there's more of a story to explore with LIndsey. If it was KIm it'd just be "oh she's gome even more psycho". I think it's more shocking and a bit creepy that the once sweet and innocent Lindsey has transitioned to a cold blooded killer claiming more victims than even Silas!
danyell
22-10-2015
Bloody stupid. Lindsey's no killer. Much better if it was Celine. She has that creepy quality about her!
gina_lok
22-10-2015
So she murdered her husbands brothers dad and girfriend and now her own husband , thats 3 in her family , but she did look bit phsyco last night its always the nice quiet ones ,

I guessed it was lindsey and kim covering for her all along.
but how much of it does kim know thats the question
NoughtiesMusic
22-10-2015
To think, Trudy Ryan would most likely have been a victim of the GHK this week if Danniella Westbrooks's return wasn't cancelled (for obvious reasons).

In that respect it's a shame Kierston Wareing was brought in as Ashley Davidson only for this to happen. The more I think about it, they could have cast her in completely different and regular role. They could've taken the Carly Bradley storyline in another direction without bringing in Ashley looking for her ring. Better yet they shouldn't have introduced that wooden Ben Bradley or his daughter

Also, why did Lindsey say Freddie made her do bad things, presumably referring to these killings? Is really that much of an influence? What ever the reason she managed to slay that very demon.
spikewoman
22-10-2015
Originally Posted by NoughtiesMusic:
“To think, Trudy Ryan would most likely have been a victim of the GHK this week if Danniella Westbrooks's return wasn't cancelled (for obvious reasons).

In that respect it's a shame Kierston Wareing was brought in as Ashley Davidson only for this to happen. The more I think about it, they could have cast her in completely different and regular role. They could've taken the Carly Bradley storyline in another direction without bringing in Ashley looking for her ring. Better yet they shouldn't have introduced that wooden Ben Bradley or his daughter

Also, why did Lindsey say Freddie made her do bad things, presumably referring to these killings? Is really that much of an influence? What ever the reason she managed to slay that very demon.”

Didn't nickname Ashley as Big Boob for nothing. She was obviously another Big Bob as in an extreme caricature and fodder to be written out pretty quickly. Actress might be ok but the part she played was an absolute joke.
lolla_7
22-10-2015
It seems to me like they are just doing the Toby Mills storyline from years ago. Killing people through rage because of their partner. In Toby's case it was whenever Ellie embarrassed and humiliated him. All seems rather similar.
katt
22-10-2015
Originally Posted by lady_xanax:
“I just don't find Lindsey menacing or bold enough to kill so many people in the hospital and risk people finding out.”

no, neither do I which is what makes it an interesting storyline - Lindsey appears to be relatively normal BUT there is clearly some dark menacing undertones inside her (does that make sense) to make her kill

I really hope HO does this reveal justice and explains why Lindsey has turned into a serial killer!

yeah, its HO, I know I am probably hoping for the impossible but I can hope!
Joanne MA
22-10-2015
Did all of the murders coincide with Lindsey having a bad time with Freddie? She seemed to be blaming him for everything and for him being inside her head.
dubgaz
22-10-2015
I know Hollyoaks is OTT at the best of time but the amount of nutters living in the village at the moment is crazy.

We have Lindsey, Kim, Sienna, Nico, Scott, Trevor. Its rediculous.

I bet Freddie's body will end up being buried in the wall and the Roscoes will think he has just done a runner.
katt
22-10-2015
Originally Posted by dubgaz:
“I know Hollyoaks is OTT at the best of time but the amount of nutters living in the village at the moment is crazy.

We have Lindsey, Kim, Sienna, Nico, Scott, Trevor. Its rediculous.

I bet Freddie's body will end up being buried in the wall and the Roscoes will think he has just done a runner.”

nooo, it will go in the pond its a magical pond, you dump things in it and they disappear
seventhwave
22-10-2015
BK's interview said something along the lines of how getting away with Fraser's murder helped Lindsey cross the line into murder. Basically suggesting that because he got away with it, she started to believe she could too. Even though she'd already got away with her own role in a murder and with the approval of the police ...
Chiltons Cane
22-10-2015
Totally ridiculous outcome.
Shawn_Lunn
22-10-2015
I'm glad it was Lindsay to be honest.
kitkat1971
22-10-2015
Originally Posted by seventhwave:
“BK's interview said something along the lines of how getting away with Fraser's murder helped Lindsey cross the line into murder. Basically suggesting that because he got away with it, she started to believe she could too. Even though she'd already got away with her own role in a murder and with the approval of the police ...”

That does make sense.

She's had the experience of getting away with pushing her Sister which resulted in dreadful injuries. Then her part in Browning's death - again got away with it with (as somebody said above) Police approval. Then Freddie getting away with killing Fraser.

You can see how that has fed a belief that some people 'deserve' to die and provided they've done something wrong, the person that kills them will get away with it.

It does make her reactions to Freddie having killed somebody and insisting he shouldn't be punished and absolutely anything was acceptable to keep him out of prison, including framing other people, more believable.

I was wondering if anybody remembered the detail of how she was getting on with freddie at each murder to see if it was always a reaction - ie, she finds out he has lied or they've argued, she kills someone.

Re it being similar to Toby. In some ways yes, his nuerosis linked back to childhood as well and seemed to lay dormant until Ellie triggered it off again somehow. But, i suspect, that may serial killers probably do have 'triggers' and it would make sense for those to be connected to somebody they are very close to - like a spouse. That doesn't mean it is the Spouse's fault of course, nobody can be blamed except the killer themself even though they might try and justify it by saying somebody else's actions made them do it (similar to domestic violence, i wouldn't need to hit you if you didn't wind me up) it possibly will be a motivating factor.
katt
22-10-2015
Originally Posted by Chiltons Cane:
“Totally ridiculous outcome.”

what would have been a less ridiculous outcome? just curious
spikewoman
22-10-2015
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“I was wondering if anybody remembered the detail of how she was getting on with freddie at each murder to see if it was always a reaction - ie, she finds out he has lied or they've argued, she kills someone. .”

Sorry, I don't recall but a thought occurred to me that she might link Freddie with killing people because she aborted her and Joe's baby largely based on Freddie telling her that Joe had abandoned her (Freddie believed Joe to be dead at the time on Fraser's word). He couldn't bring himself to tell the family Joe was dead (as he believed and Sandy was around at that point) so he concocted the lie.
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