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Old 22-10-2015, 19:54
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By deliberately pushing her into the lake?! Or is she just saying that to keep Kim on side by saying she wanted Kim all to herself??

So Lindsey pushed Kath into the lake on purpose and she was jealous of Kim's bond with Kath?! That doesn't really make sense, wouldn't Lindsey have been more attached to Kim if so? I was right that it does trace back to Kath but I'm stunned Lindsey pushing her was deliberate!

Did she mean to just injure her? And seeing her brain damaged messed her up severely? 9
year olds just don't turn psychotic out of nowhere, I'm confused!

What does everyone else think of that revelation regarding Kath?
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Old 22-10-2015, 20:35
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Was gonna ask same thing lol
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Old 22-10-2015, 20:57
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Yeah I'm confused!
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Old 22-10-2015, 20:58
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Kirkwood seems intent on purposely causing us viewers brain damage.
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Old 22-10-2015, 21:11
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I'm loving this side of Lindsay. Sophie Austin is a wonderful actress so it's great she's getting a huge plot like this. We all thought Lindsay was the normal one when the Roscoe bunch was introduced but now it turns out she's the most messed up of them all.
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Old 22-10-2015, 21:21
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Not sure whether she could be described as psychotic at that age, but I understood that she deliberately tried to KILL Kath, not just damage/injure her, and she's always regretted not 'doing it properly' and her recent murders have been an attempt at control, although I don't know if someone with those tendencies would be able to hide them for all that time. It would be interesting to see the police eventually look at unexplained deaths at other hospitals she has worked/trained in. I'm finding it all quite intriguing! x
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Old 23-10-2015, 11:46
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What confuses me is Lindsey pushing Kath deliberately and she told Kim she wanted her "out of the way". Lindsey was 9 and 9 year olds just don't turn psychotic out of the blue! Lindsey said Kath caused all the fights but didn't elaborate. So did she mean to just injure Kath so that she'd stop causing arguments? But when she was brain damaged it triggered off something in Lindsey that has caused her to commit all these murder? The guilt, maybe? She said to Kim she should've done to Kath what she did to Phoebe. Or was it really an accident (the thing about the ice cream) and Lindsey is just saying all this to keep Kim on side?!
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Old 23-10-2015, 12:21
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Really? No she didn't deliberately do it, she did it by accident! What she wanted to do was KILL her.
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Old 23-10-2015, 15:23
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That does make more sense! So Lindsey has basically been insane since she was a child then! No normal 9 year old would set out to kill their sibling! She's hid it so well, and we all thought Kim was the unhinged one!
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Old 23-10-2015, 15:46
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That does make more sense! So Lindsey has basically been insane since she was a child then! No normal 9 year old would set out to kill their sibling! She's hid it so well, and we all thought Kim was the unhinged one!
they are both unhinged to be honest - Lindsey was just better at hiding it than Kim!
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Old 23-10-2015, 17:57
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Perhaps adult Lindsey is looking back on it differently. At the time she just wanted to get rid of Kath and probably didn't process that this was murder.
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Old 23-10-2015, 18:02
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I thought HO were going to go with the angle that the guilt of leaving Kath brain damaged triggered Lindsey to become mentally unstable. But then last night it was revealed pushing Kath into the lake was no accident and that she wished she had been successful in killing her.

If it's true she wanted to get rid of Kath because she wanted Kim to be her twin instead, her reaction to Kim copying her makes zero sense. She looked very uncomfortable when she found out Kim had dyed her hair dark and bought identical clothing to her so that she could copy her. Lindsey also had no trouble in asking Kim to move out of the house and went ballistic when she discovered Kim's obsession box that contained a lock of her hair.

If Lindsey was that fixated on keeping Kim close and preferring her to Kath, why would she do all this? I'm sure we will get a more thorough explanation, though! I'm very happy Lindsey is the GHK, do you think Kath will be explored more?
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Old 25-10-2015, 01:46
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At least Lindsey being the GHK makes a bit more sense as she's had the dark side from a young age wanting to kill Kath. She explained to Kim that she wanted to get rid of Kath as she was always causing problems and picking fights and she didn't feel as close to her as she did with Kim. I think this SL would have made a bit more sense if Lindsey hadn't been hating Kim recently.
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Old 25-10-2015, 03:59
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I'm not sure I really buy Lindsey sudden descent into seasoned psychopath. I'm disappointed that she's the GHK. I can't honestly believe she would murder Freddie.
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Old 25-10-2015, 04:21
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I think Lindsey either just lashed out against Kath or she did indeed intend to kill her. She might have killed elsewhere too but not necessarily. Something might have triggered the Hollyoaks murders. She's become addicted to killing and being in control of her victims life or death. She feels "better" during and immediately after killing.
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Old 25-10-2015, 09:08
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To be fair...in some ways it does make sense. Her sister was copying her and she let it happen with no complaint until 'sleeping with her husband'. most normal sisters would have said something earlier. and because kim is crazy, she is not going to report her and normal sisters would. so, in some ways, makes the most logical conclusion
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Old 25-10-2015, 09:08
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I think its possible for someone to be different to how they were as a child. Kids can be impulsive and cruel and jealous. At young ages they're still figuring out how to react to situations normally. So imagine Lindsey was jealous of and hated Kath. She wanted it t be just her and Kim. Fine. That doesn't mean Lindsey was obsessed with Kim. She was just a spiteful, envious and violent kid that lashed out.

But as they grow up Lindsey discovers other things in life, grows up a bit, meets Joe. That dark side of her regresses and perhaps through guilt of what she'd done to Kath she finds herself unable to visit her. Instead becoming a nurse to help people. When Kim arrives we find out its her that has been visiting Kath all these years because she's the one who feels guilty.

It's Kim who is the more obsessive sister. Latching on to people she thinks are going to make her feel better about herself or are going to replace that bond she's lost with her twin. For years Kim has been doing this through the belief it was her fault.
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Old 25-10-2015, 09:22
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I think Lindsey just wanted Kath to "go away" either in a permanent sense or be shocked so much that she'd be nicer to her and Kim. I don't think children that age regard death and murder the same way adults do. As Lindsey grew up the real consequences probably dawned on her and she would have had increased guilt etc
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Old 25-10-2015, 12:03
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That makes much more sense now! Especially about kids not having the same concept of death and murder as adults do. And I do think 9yo Lindsey was jealous of Kim's bond with Kath. Remember she said to Kim "she was never your twin". We already know the twins were incredibly close so Lindsey as a child may have felt ostracised as she was the oldest and there was no other sibling that she could bond with. So when Kath started causing arguments (as 4 year olds often do and it's normal for sisters to have arguments anyways, especially at that age!) Lindsey decided she had to "take control" (her own words) and get rid of Kath, at the time not realising the consequences.

But as Lindsey grew up she realised what she had done and didn't visit Kath out of guilt. And her saying "I should've finished the job" could've been more guilt at leaving Kath severely disabled.

I wonder will we see any more of Kath? They must have gone to the effort of casting the actress for a reason. If they wanted to, I'm sure Daisy Wood Davis could've played both her role of Kim AND Kath and there's defintely a similarity between Kim and Kath's looks. They really do look like they could be twins in real life, evan though they wouldn't be classed as identical.

One more question, is Kath in a PVS? As when Lindsey visited her in the care home about 6 months ago, she looked right at her and seemed petrified (we know why now, so she obviously remembers the accident) of her. Would people in a PVS be that aware? I assumed she was in a PVS judging by what we've seen of her so far and when Mercedes asked Lindsey how Kath was now Lindsey replied that she was there "physically".
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