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Emmerdale: Dip in quality
I love Emmerdale - I think its the most consistently good soap of the big 3 but...
...there has been a definite drop in quality over the past couple of months. For me it started from the plane crash. The following episodes were poorly handled - no visible debris or police activity outside. Apart from people who had lost their loved ones the village seemed to just 'move on' from it all quickly. Also, Ross! The man was near death, was in hospital for weeks - but as soon as he came round, he was up and about, plotting revenge on Pete. Did he even suffer one headache? Good parts - Bad Eric was quite amusing, initially. Vanessa and the baby - Good storyline and well acted. Emmerdale are very good at the big occasion episodes but Who Shot Robert fell flat for me. Cannot believe they made you know who the shooter. He is vastly over-used at the moment and is in danger of burn out. Not sure if its because Kates Oakes attention has now waned and is diverted to the cobbles of Weatherfield. Something is definitely amiss at the moment. Emmerdale is still the better of the 3 though - its just not got its spark at the moment. |
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I sadly agree. It's been very noticeable over the last few weeks that the quality has gone down.
I am sick of soap whodunnits, so that didn't help, but the rest hasn't made up for it. |
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Eastenders is the best for me at the moment. Emmerdale is the worst at the moment for me. Corrie has been better than Emmerdale lately imo.
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I completely disagree. I thought tonight was better than the helicopter episode
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I felt that Emmerdale took a bit of a dip during the summer, but it's been back on form since Robert was shot. The reveal tonight was a fantastic episode - I loved how everything came together. Kate Oates, the writers and actors should be proud of what they have achieved.
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In the last couple of years Emmerdale has got these big storylines and episodes spot on, tonight it didn't feel that way though. I wasn't happy with how some of the storylines turned out. Ross being the shooter was far too predictable and was just another way to shove Ross into a storyline that should've had nothing to do with him. Paddy cheating was crap too, they could have come up with something better than that surely, it felt lazy.
It's still the top soap right now for me though. One average episode isn't going to change that. |
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In the last couple of years Emmerdale has got these big storylines and episodes spot on, tonight it didn't feel that way though. I wasn't happy with how some of the storylines turned out. Ross being the shooter was far too predictable and was just another way to shove Ross into a storyline that should've had nothing to do with him. Paddy cheating was crap too, they could have come up with something better than that surely, it felt lazy.
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I think there's been a definite improvement this week. The aftermath of the chopper crash was dreadful but the Chas stalker stuff, this Ashley story, the return of Nikhil, and (hopefully) a bit more in-depth explaration of the Lawrence and Bernice stuff are all positives. I'm not relishing any more Dross or Aaron stuff though.
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Whilst I agree about Ross, the Paddy thing made sense. He wouldn't be able to be involved in a long drawn out affair, but a spur of the moment bunk up, when he's feeling low and has made a small connection with someone is not outside the realms of possibility. No chance to feel guilt until afterwards.
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Eastenders is the best for me at the moment. Emmerdale is the worst at the moment for me. Corrie has been better than Emmerdale lately imo.
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The quality has been really poor since the crash in the summer.
There are good bits. Cain and Zak last night were lovely. Ashley's story looks set to be heartbreaking. Vanessa's is quite good. Lawrence and Bernice is interesting. But Who Shot Robert was one great big massive epic fail. Maybe things will pick up with Nikhil, but they've got a long way to come back after falling on their arses tonight. |
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I like Ross, so cannot complain about tonight plus the reason behind it was fantastic. The show goes from strength to strength and I cannot praise it enough. Well done Emmerdale, and Kate Oates.
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It does seem to have lost its spark the last few weeks, as if KO has given up trying now she's going to Corrie and is simply marking time
. Who shot Robert has had no impact for me whatsoever, because I hate him and couldn't care less if he was shot, who did it, or if he carked it. The only disappointing part of the story is he didn't. On top of that I am thoroughly fed up of spiteful, nasty, unpleasant characters like Ross, Robert, Aaron and Chas at the forefront of every fecking storyline and episode . Why can't we have storylines featuring decent likeable characters, who do actually make you want to root for them and care about them? ED has a higher crime rate than Midsomer, indeed it could be one of the village in Midsomer with all the backstabbing, feuds, death, attempted murder, jealousy, rivalry, affairs, plots, suspects and motives they have!!
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The first ep was good but the rewind one was disappointing apart from the developing Ashley story. The Paddy stuff was pretty random. I can' t understand why neither Ashley or Andy appear to have been aware of what happened that night in the intervening weeks??
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I thought the who shot robert episode was a big let down to be honest. All that hype and for me and the mrs it was rather flat. It was just "Strangers on a Train" done yet again (i've lost count of the number of shows and cop shows even NCIS! that have done their own version of it- you kill my 'wife' i kill yours kind of thing- even Murdoch Mysteries ran the exact same type of story line this afternoon (thursday) (wife of course simply being swapped into who ever each part of the contract wants rid of- ie robert/pete in the case of emmerdale. i actually got bored with it.
![]() As for paddy, how the heck does he do it? He is not exactly mr universe or even handsome and debonaire. The women of emmerdale must have very poor taste or be extremely desperate. i know the woman paddy bonked in the car better as jackie- the wife of Robson Greens character in City lights/Northern Lights, never watched Waterloo Road/Brookside. Maybe it was a sympathy s**g although i do think its her giving him the phone calls he has started getting. Wonder if i could sell her on a sob story too? LOL Quite crap of the night club letting that bloke walk out with her (tess) coat too and not even calling the cops!! a bloke the size of paddy should have been able to flatten that arrogant thief. Anyway i felt it was all a rather deflated episode and there is no way Andy is going to complete his part of the deal- if ross wants pete dead he will have to push him off that bridge himself. Guess we will just have to bide our time because robert and ross will both have to go, bad guys can never be allowed to get away with such stuff, so its only a matter of time, although the sooner the better as far as i'm concerned, i guess the women will disagree though they don't like to lose their eye candy lol and there isn't an awful lot to chose from these days in emmerdale. Its about time somebody told eric to remember it was he and rodney and co that locked val in the slide and thus he is equally responsible for her getting killed. I fear the ashley story and his dad are going to be long drawn out affairs *sigh* BTW did they ever explain away the gun lacky had having taken it out of the safe at home farm and how ross came by it again? because after the shooting aaron picked it up after ross dropped it while climbing the fence in his getaway and put it in his pocket. In the first shooting though a few weeks back lacky appeared to throw the gun over a hedge after the shooting (giving the impression he had shot robert) so how had ross got hold of it again (especially after the shooting!) or are there 2 guns? Or did i just miss a bit?
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I thought the who shot robert episode was a big let down to be honest. All that hype and for me and the mrs it was rather flat. It was just "Strangers on a Train" done yet again (i've lost count of the number of shows and cop shows even NCIS! that have done their own version of it- you kill my 'wife' i kill yours kind of thing- even Murdoch Mysteries ran the exact same type of story line this afternoon (thursday) (wife of course simply being swapped into who ever each part of the contract wants rid of- ie robert/pete in the case of emmerdale. i actually got bored with it.
![]() As for paddy, how the heck does he do it? He is not exactly mr universe or even handsome and debonaire. The women of emmerdale must have very poor taste or be extremely desperate. i know the woman paddy bonked in the car better as jackie- the wife of Robson Greens character in City lights/Northern Lights, never watched Waterloo Road/Brookside. Maybe it was a sympathy s**g although i do think its her giving him the phone calls he has started getting. Wonder if i could sell her on a sob story too? LOL Quite crap of the night club letting that bloke walk out with her (tess) coat too and not even calling the cops!! a bloke the size of paddy should have been able to flatten that arrogant thief. Anyway i felt it was all a rather deflated episode and there is no way Andy is going to complete his part of the deal- if ross wants pete dead he will have to push him off that bridge himself. Guess we will just have to bide our time because robert and ross will both have to go, bad guys can never be allowed to get away with such stuff, so its only a matter of time, although the sooner the better as far as i'm concerned, i guess the women will disagree though they don't like to lose their eye candy lol and there isn't an awful lot to chose from these days in emmerdale. Its about time somebody told eric to remember it was he and rodney and co that locked val in the slide and thus he is equally responsible for her getting killed. I fear the ashley story and his dad are going to be long drawn out affairs *sigh* BTW did they ever explain away the gun lacky had having taken it out of the safe at home farm and how ross came by it again? because after the shooting aaron picked it up after ross dropped it while climbing the fence in his getaway and put it in his pocket. In the first shooting though a few weeks back lacky appeared to throw the gun over a hedge after the shooting (giving the impression he had shot robert) so how had ross got hold of it again (especially after the shooting!) or are there 2 guns? Or did i just miss a bit? ![]() |
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Last nights episode was a brilliant example of Emmerdale losing quality. It all went to the dogs last night.
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Has it ever been anything other than shocking? It amazes me that it's still made and shown, Brookside was cancelled when it had run its course why not the same fate for the nonsense that is EE?
![]() Also it still pulls in 6/7 million maybe that's why it's still on where as brook side ratings were low and think you'll find if HO has survived 20 years with less than 1 million viewers obviously EE will with more than half that amount of viewers!
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I really disliked the rewind episode except for the Ashley part. Loads of repeated stuff, not only things from the original shooting episode, but the endless Ross/Andy conversation that seemed to take up half a show. Because it was all shot in the dark i didn't have a clue what was happening for parts...what fell out of Chrissie's bag?
The producer talks about showing another side of Ross, what about Andy?! He effectively hired a hit man, agreed to kill someone who'd done nothing to him, cynically exploited the NHS for an alibi, left his family worried he was dead, and is happy to see Aaron in prison despite his mental issues being common knowledge. He's also happy to see Diane's business and friendship with Chas destroyed. Are we going to be expected to forgive him because he didn't actually keep his end of the bargain? |
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As I've said before, I'm still enjoying Emmerdale and consider it to be the best of the main soaps and I enjoyed the rewind episode. I actually watched both of last night's eps again this morning on ITV2! Of course it's not perfect, some storylines are dull, unbelievable or whatever and some of the acting is a bit suspect but I could say the same about many multi multi million dollar, 90 minute films I have seen. I believe they are producing over 2 hours of drama every week, 52 weeks of the year and despite its failings there are still enough good storylines, good actors/acting and direction to make it a considerable achievement. Well done Emmerdale!
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Andy is vile and beyond redemption.
He killed Sarah Sugden senior, shot Jack senior, slept with Debbie knowing that she was underage and beat the living daylights out of wife Jo. I think it's shocking how much he has had brushed under the carpet. Now this. Will he get his comeuppance? Doubtful. Unless the actor follows through on his recent quotes about 'not being in the show forever'. I find him more repugnant than Robert, mostly because everyone acts like he has the moral high ground. Emmerdale has gone off the boil no two ways about it. Ross as the shooter is ridiculous after he was the father of Charity's baby. |
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At least it was a resident criminal so has some credibility. If it was EE it would be April or Sarah wot done it! As for charity baby I don't believe it belongs to Ross.
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Perhaps at times, yet I still find it to be a better watch than the others
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. Who shot Robert has had no impact for me whatsoever, because I hate him and couldn't care less if he was shot, who did it, or if he carked it. The only disappointing part of the story is he didn't. On top of that I am thoroughly fed up of spiteful, nasty, unpleasant characters like Ross, Robert, Aaron and Chas at the forefront of every fecking storyline and episode
. Why can't we have storylines featuring decent likeable characters, who do actually make you want to root for them and care about them? ED has a higher crime rate than Midsomer, indeed it could be one of the village in Midsomer with all the backstabbing, feuds, death, attempted murder, jealousy, rivalry, affairs, plots, suspects and motives they have!!
Also it still pulls in 6/7 million maybe that's why it's still on where as brook side ratings were low and think you'll find if HO has survived 20 years with less than 1 million viewers obviously EE will with more than half that amount of viewers!