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Are they not allowed to buy from Supermarkets?
I's have thought any French Supermarket would sell Mussells and Escargot - even a British supermarket would have Mussells for sure ( possibly frozen Escargot too) - I simply can't imagine why they'd buy from a restaurant. Why would a restaurant sell them produce at a good rate when they've purchased them for their own use and to make a profit.
I couldn't get my head around that at all TBH. |
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Not sure, there has been many incidents in the past (unaired) where teams were turned away from some places due to the management not wanting them to film in there.
Regarding frozen though - they were told to get fresh in the description. |
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There are a lot of rules for the tasks that aren't made explicit to us viewers. Way back in series 1 viewers were puzzled why Tim spent ages getting a very small discount - in later series it was revealed they couldn't accept the first price offered.
Later people wondered why the apprentices didn't just use their smart phones to search online for stuff, in later series it was made clear they aren't allowed to do so. So maybe supermarkets are against the rules or they simply aren't tried as they won't be able to get a discount in there. |
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I have also heard that they are actually told which shops to go to..it seems to be a bit more scripted that some think if thats the case
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Probably sorting out the ability to haggle with a major supermarket would just be too much along with permission to film issues, as with a small shop they can 'close' it for the 10-15 mins of filming which would be impossible for a supermarket.
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I have also heard that they are actually told which shops to go to..it seems to be a bit more scripted that some think if thats the case
But anyway, why would they do that? The producers evidently like the candidates to look stupid, giving them any hints of where to go would make the task easier. |
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But why would you buy from a supermarket when a wholesaler will be cheaper?
Looking forward to going in to Morrisons next week to see if I can barter 20% off from the girl on the check-out. |
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I don't think they are told which shops to go to. We often see them just running around trying to find a random place.
But anyway, why would they do that? The producers evidently like the candidates to look stupid, giving them any hints of where to go would make the task easier. I would of thought they'd have to obtain permission before hand to film in a shop, they couldn't just "do it on the fly" or they'd spend all day looking for filming locations. Would also lend value to the fact they ignored Jenny when she said let's go to Canterbury and the fact the girls seemed fixated on going into restaurants to find their mussels. Added to the fact that they were in a "fishing port" but only used one chandler. |
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Hmm I'm not so sure, they both ended up at the same town and the exact same shop!!
I would of thought they'd have to obtain permission before hand to film in a shop, they couldn't just "do it on the fly" or they'd spend all day looking for filming locations. Would also lend value to the fact they ignored Jenny when she said let's go to Canterbury and the fact the girls seemed fixated on going into restaurants to find their mussels. Added to the fact that they were in a "fishing port" but only used one chandler. I wish they'd make these rules clear so that we can discuss them better. Could they not be put on the website? |
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I have also heard that they are actually told which shops to go to..it seems to be a bit more scripted that some think if thats the case
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Why would Jenny have suggested going in the first place then?
I wish they'd make these rules clear so that we can discuss them better. Could they not be put on the website? |
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I wonder if the production staff go ahead and ensure that the items are available at a certain number of stores and maybe even drop some extra stock at those to ensure there will be stock available (let me get one from the back room) but obviously the candidates can go else where.
With the cheese it might of been the nearest shop to the port and thus once they got sorted after the boat ride both found that shop. |
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This episode had a few "wtf" moments, a traveling salesman who by "his body language" appeared to be selling glassware and of all the cheese shops in France, they appear in the same one.
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This episode had a few "wtf" moments, a traveling salesman who by "his body language" appeared to be selling glassware and of all the cheese shops in France, they appear in the same one.
Both teams seemed to go to Boulogne, which isn't particularly big - maybe its only got one cheese-shop? |
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^^ Aye but Vana mentioned something about "body language" and being approached. How he knew they wanted glasses is anyones guess as I doubt they were speaking French and his English wasn't great. And how in the hell do you get from €200 down to €50's, bet his customers are watching that "thinking next time you come here Pepe with you over priced tat, I'll tell you were to stick it"
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At te very end of the task Brett specifically told Joseph to take his team to a supermarket to try to get the snails, so if it's a rule, the candidates weren't aware of it.
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I remember one series, not the negotiation task but one of the food based ones where one of the teams had to visit a supermarket and stock up on some ready made items as they ran out of their own!
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I would of thought they'd have to obtain permission before hand to film in a shop, they couldn't just "do it on the fly" or they'd spend all day looking for filming locations.
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I don't think the producers would allow them to buy from supermarkets. If they could just buy everything from Tesco, there'd be no drama in these sort of tasks, and no opportunity for the candidates to show off their negotiating skill.
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I don't think the producers would allow them to buy from supermarkets. If they could just buy everything from Tesco, there'd be no drama in these sort of tasks, and no opportunity for the candidates to show off their negotiating skill.
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I don't think the producers would allow them to buy from supermarkets. If they could just buy everything from Tesco, there'd be no drama in these sort of tasks, and no opportunity for the candidates to show off their negotiating skill.
It would not be a simple matter of just asking the Manager of the the local branch if they could film - He would have to ask their Head Office - and then fill in forms and god knows what months in advance. |
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Surely a fishmonger/market or fish wholesaler would sell mussels. Bit of a head scratcher.
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Surely a fishmonger/market or fish wholesaler would sell mussels. Bit of a head scratcher.
Vana should have kept the food items together and bought the lot in a French market. Half an hour to pick up cheese, snails and mussels. Job's a good'un. With cheaper goods, the main point is just to buy them at almost any cost. Even if they'd paid twice what the boys did, they'd be down maybe ten euros, but if they don't get them at all, they're looking at a £50 fine per item. With expensive items, the sums are reversed, as they risk overpaying by more than the fine. |
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Yep and avoiding fines also seems to be key to this challenge so just getting £1 off an item will avoid a fine and you'll have the item.
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I have also heard that they are actually told which shops to go to..it seems to be a bit more scripted that some think if thats the case
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I don't think they are told which shops to go to. We often see them just running around trying to find a random place.
But anyway, why would they do that? The producers evidently like the candidates to look stupid, giving them any hints of where to go would make the task easier. Is it possible that the vegan shop in a previous week was actually set up to make them look stupid and hence give the audience a laugh? I wouldn't even be surprised if the producers told them to still try the shop after they realized it was a vegan place. There are lots of articles about reality TV that show how contrived much of it can be. I suspect this show is far more orchestrated and set-up than even many cynical viewers would think. It's entertainment, though (and most certainly not about "business" ), so I don't really care if it is a fun watch.
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I wouldn't even be surprised if the producers told them to still try the shop after they realized it was a vegan place. There are lots of articles about reality TV that show how contrived much of it can be. I suspect this show is far more orchestrated and set-up than even many cynical viewers would think. It's entertainment, though (and most certainly not about "business"
), so I don't really care if it is a fun watch.