Wahey, finally admitting you had no idea who wrote what. Congratulations, only took an hour or so

This is so GL. You were a TS stan until she went from writing in a diary about cheerleaders and princesses and captains of football teams (thats all in one song y'all!! She must have been up past her bedtime when that was penned) and moved to pop music, MAX MARTIN and a huge STABLE of writers on every single song. Stable is your word not mine.
Adele wrote Rolling in the Deep with Paul Epworth. He has talked about it at length. Those words are hers. She won the highest songwriting award in the UK. The Ivor Novello. What's your point here again? Oh yeah, you don't have one. Except to rip Adele, the "pub singer".
I've seen Adele live a half dozen times and have personally seen her play bass guitar and sing Best For Last and guitar and play Daydreamer and Crazy For You (all three songs she wrote by herself). I was maybe 5 feet away. She was the only musician on the stage when she performed btw. I've also seen TS 4 times in concert (to review her openers usually-the perils of my job). She has someone on that stage playing the same instrument (only better). It's smoke and mirrors. Got to love pop stars GL!
So glad you are back! This new era for 25 is going to be amazing! She just broke Taylor's record for Youtube views in 24 hours. Aww, thats gotta hurt GL. There will be many more broken records before this era is finished.

You don't have to be depressed. When I was 13 I was listening to Nirvana and Guns N' Roses. You were listening to pop music to make mummy and daddy proud. I know what real music is and I know what real talent is. I am not saying Adele has no talent, but I know there is more to her music than her. Likewise I know a Fiona Apple album is all Fiona Apple.

I like the idea that no one can legitimately write different sounding songs btw.

I bow down to your superior bullshit. I really do.

Fantastic isn't it lol.

I have replied to your post previously and have asked you to not try to dumb me down to your level...I am not a TS fan. Now if you want to do a Foals Vs Adele debate...let's crack on.....................

I'm not so sure you can be dumbed any further down

I like the fact that your music collection is 100% based upon the top 10 singles chart yet you think you can debate music with me...lol.

I'm pretty sure I'm not looking dumb in this thread. I think the ones who look dumb are the ones who respond with "Lennon and McCartney wrote together." Yeah...they were were in a band called The Beatles idiots.

I'm pretty sure you're looking really dumb. It is very sad.

Wahey Hollie thinks Beyoncé writes cause the album sleeve says so....wonder why she got sued by that saxophonist....

I am looking dumb? From reading through this thread I have a far superior vocabulary to you. My posts also have a lot more conviction than yours. I appear to have more in depth knowledge on music than you. But keep telling yourself I look dumb if that makes you feel better.

I'll ask you to go to the post where I said those words. I've had to ask you twice to do this now so I'd ask you to not make up things. I look forward to you quoting where I've said "Beyoncé writes her songs".

And yet I don't have to state things as fact when they are simply my opinion or claim other people have opinions they don't have.

Go on then, tell me what's in my music collection. There's literally one chart song in there right now, Hello by Adele.

You aren't debating music in any conceivable way. You're trolling.

To be honest Hollie...I am not sure what argument you have or are trying to make?

You agree that Max Martin does a lot...yet you also refuse to believe that the artists he works with don't do a lot.

You think I'm dumb because I have an argument which I do back up with facts but you simply refuse to accept them.

At least I have an objective. You seem to have your blinkers and refuse to budge on the fence. Keep believing the writing process is split equally if that makes you sleep better at night. I suppose you think Wayne Rooney typed his own autobiography too?

You haven't provided a single fact. I will ask you again, find me a single post where I said Beyoncé writes her music. Please find it or stop attributing opinions to me that I do not hold

This is all pretty tragic.

Trolling? What a cop out. My threads get multiple replies, have a search. My opinions get people going...it isn't trolling it's challenging people and their perceptions. If you can't handle that don't jump in the fire. I can always pretend to be a Little Mix fan and start posting how amazing they are though if it's all getting too much for you...

Yeah it's tragic that I've stated a fact that Max Martin wrote on Adele's new album Tragic that since then all people have done is try to downplay that and act like I am making things up.

I'm still waiting for you to tell me something I don't know.....

Making comments about my music collection (of which you know nothing) and asking how dare I debate you on music. With such childish bravado as this, I would hope you're just trolling. If not, then you have bigger issues than Adele's album credits.

Ok maybe I was defensive to you. But can you blame I have had the whole thread bashing me. People get very defensive about their favourite singer's writing credits. Thankfully I don't have that problem with who I listen to...it's indisputable.

People have just asked for facts. Because you can't deliver them you just make assumptions about people because it makes you feel better than they are. All people have done is asked for facts not opinions dressed up as facts.

Are you kidding? With every single post you're coming across more dumb. You have spent a good few pages of this thread demonstrating that you don't know the difference between fact and opinion. Everything you've posted is your opinion, you have no facts. It's hilarious and slightly worrying seeing you get so frustrated at other posters because they don't agree with your opinion and because they're intelligent enough to know what a fact is and what an opinion is. You seriously are absolutely deluded.