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Old 24-10-2015, 00:37
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There's a very simple "cooking" thread on General Discussion that has reached 80+ posts.
Apart from the ongoing "participation" threads on here few individual threads last anywhere near that and many fizzle out very quickly.
Any thoughts why?
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Old 24-10-2015, 09:12
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I don't think enough people visit this forum for whatever reason. Any threads on GD about food grow rapidly and then die when they are moved here.
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Old 24-10-2015, 12:17
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I don't think enough people visit this forum for whatever reason. Any threads on GD about food grow rapidly and then die when they are moved here.
yeah........it's like preparing something and eating it piping hot then sticking some leftovers in the fridge
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Old 24-10-2015, 18:08
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It's a shame really, and I for one am guilty of partaking in threads regarding food over in general discussion, rather than posting here, an entire forum dedicated to food!

I'm just off now to post what we're having for dinner this evening, and will try to avoid 'food' related threads anywhere else other than here from now on.
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Old 24-10-2015, 21:16
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It's a shame really, and I for one am guilty of partaking in threads regarding food over in general discussion, rather than posting here, an entire forum dedicated to food!
It's more than a shame.
Several posters on the other thread talk of the pleasure of cooking "from scratch".
I've seen posters on here - Food and Drink - attacked as "snobs" for admitting to such.
The term "Have you tried making your own?" is too often deemed to be antagonistic.

Edit: just noticed its transferred here @ 100+ posts.
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Old 25-10-2015, 04:49
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It's more than a shame.
Several posters on the other thread talk of the pleasure of cooking "from scratch".
I've seen posters on here - Food and Drink - attacked as "snobs" for admitting to such.
The term "Have you tried making your own?" is too often deemed to be antagonistic.

Edit: just noticed its transferred here @ 100+ posts.
Never quite got why some people think cooking, enjoyment of cooking etc is a snobbery thing.

I'd have thought the opposite, as in having ones food pre prepared etc for them, would seem a little 'too posh to cook" if anything, while us cooks are up to our elbows in spuds etc!

Glad it's been moved over now.
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Old 25-10-2015, 19:22
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Never quite got why some people think cooking, enjoyment of cooking etc is a snobbery thing.

I'd have thought the opposite, as in having ones food pre prepared etc for them, would seem a little 'too posh to cook" if anything, while us cooks are up to our elbows in spuds etc!

Glad it's been moved over now.
Snobbery occurs in every area of life that differentiation does, be it food, art, politics, sex, fashion, language, whatever. Ever watch an episode of Come Dine With Me? I find it hard to believe those people aren't actors.
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Old 25-10-2015, 21:13
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Never quite got why some people think cooking, enjoyment of cooking etc is a snobbery thing.

I'd have thought the opposite, as in having ones food pre prepared etc for them, would seem a little 'too posh to cook" if anything, while us cooks are up to our elbows in spuds etc!

Glad it's been moved over now.
Quite often it's not that straight forward.

The OP may be asking about a processed product, frozen product, ready meal etc.
That's what they are looking for advice on and sometimes it doesn't help when another poster chimes in with "it's cheaper and easier to make it yourself".
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Old 25-10-2015, 22:17
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It's more than a shame.
Several posters on the other thread talk of the pleasure of cooking "from scratch".
I've seen posters on here - Food and Drink - attacked as "snobs" for admitting to such.
The term "Have you tried making your own?" is too often deemed to be antagonistic.

Edit: just noticed its transferred here @ 100+ posts.
Perhaps you are answering your own OP here.

Although there are some posts (on the thread which started in GD) which talk about cooking from scratch, the majority do not. Food snobs tend to be labelled so for the reasons degsy states below.

I would guess that the food forum has a certain reputation. The 'make your own' v shop bought fare is a very typical one on here. Most people don't give a monkeys and will eat whatsoever they please, but prefer not to be lectured by the (perceived) 'food snobs'.

Quite often it's not that straight forward.

The OP may be asking about a processed product, frozen product, ready meal etc.
That's what they are looking for advice on and sometimes it doesn't help when another poster chimes in with "it's cheaper and easier to make it yourself".
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Old 25-10-2015, 23:03
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I think a lot of the time the 'make it from scratch' is more of a forum in-joke......
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Old 26-10-2015, 06:19
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Snobbery occurs in every area of life that differentiation does, be it food, art, politics, sex, fashion, language, whatever. Ever watch an episode of Come Dine With Me? I find it hard to believe those people aren't actors.
I have indeed, and with great frustration on the rare occasion that I've actually managed to sit through a whole one.

There was one I recall watching, there was this very interesting Gentleman, who bizarrely carried a grubby old flannel to each dinner date with him.


Quite often it's not that straight forward.

The OP may be asking about a processed product, frozen product, ready meal etc.
That's what they are looking for advice on and sometimes it doesn't help when another poster chimes in with "it's cheaper and easier to make it yourself".
True, however that's the opposite to snobbery, particularly if it's a cheaper option surely?
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Old 26-10-2015, 09:56
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Perhaps you are answering your own OP here.

Although there are some posts (on the thread which started in GD) which talk about cooking from scratch, the majority do not. Food snobs tend to be labelled so for the reasons degsy states below.

I would guess that the food forum has a certain reputation. The 'make your own' v shop bought fare is a very typical one on here. Most people don't give a monkeys and will eat whatsoever they please, but prefer not to be lectured by the (perceived) 'food snobs'.
The food forum may have a reputation, but it's not really deserved. Just take a look at the threads on the first page. There's threads about takeaways, leftover kebab meat, Aldi and Lidl food. Nobody lectures anyone for the most part. 'It's cheaper and quicker to make your own' has become an in-joke around here, and is said mostly in irony nowadays. There's far more inverse snobbery than snobbery these days (on the whole of DS actually, not just the food forum). Look at the incredulous hostility that Ruby was met with in the McDonald's thread when she said she makes her own biscuits!
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Old 26-10-2015, 17:28
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Perhaps you are answering your own OP here.

Although there are some posts (on the thread which started in GD) which talk about cooking from scratch, the majority do not. Food snobs tend to be labelled so for the reasons degsy states below.
So, on a thread asking if you cook your own meals or buy ready made, those who choose to cook may be seen by some as "food snobs"?

My Op, by the way, simply asked why a food related question on GD received a healthy response whilst food related questions on here often quickly wither and die.
There are threads on the first page two week old.
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Old 26-10-2015, 17:47
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The food forum may have a reputation, but it's not really deserved. Just take a look at the threads on the first page. There's threads about takeaways, leftover kebab meat, Aldi and Lidl food. Nobody lectures anyone for the most part. 'It's cheaper and quicker to make your own' has become an in-joke around here, and is said mostly in irony nowadays. There's far more inverse snobbery than snobbery these days (on the whole of DS actually, not just the food forum). Look at the incredulous hostility that Ruby was met with in the McDonald's thread when she said she makes her own biscuits!
So, on a thread asking if you cook your own meals or buy ready made, those who choose to cook may be seen by some as "food snobs"?

My Op, by the way, simply asked why a food related question on GD received a healthy response whilst food related questions on here often quickly wither and die.
There are threads on the first page two week old.
I've been called worse in my time to be fair!

If cooking all our food from scratch makes me a food snob, then I'll also wear that label with pride.

I won't be losing any sleep when I have a nice slice of the egg custard tart I made when I got home today, after I've eaten my roast chicken, stuffing and salad rolls, made with leftover chicken from dinner yesterday.

I wonder if eating leftover chicken makes me a snob or a tramp?

There'll be no more food talk from me here now, unless its here on this forum, I shall be on the look out for recipes too!
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Old 26-10-2015, 17:57
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I wonder if eating leftover chicken makes me a snob or a tramp?
A snobby tramp maybe?
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Old 26-10-2015, 18:02
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I've been called worse in my time to be fair!

If cooking all our food from scratch makes me a food snob, then I'll also wear that label with pride.

I won't be losing any sleep when I have a nice slice of the egg custard tart I made when I got home today, after I've eaten my roast chicken, stuffing and salad rolls, made with leftover chicken from dinner yesterday.

I wonder if eating leftover chicken makes me a snob or a tramp?

There'll be no more food talk from me here now, unless its here on this forum, I shall be on the look out for recipes too!
Ruby, I do hope you didn't waste the carcass and used it to make chicken stock "from scratch".
It's ideal then for making risotto next day with the leftover chicken.
I'll get my coat I think.
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Old 27-10-2015, 04:55
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A snobby tramp maybe?
Some may agree with you in that one, I've never been known for my love of the latest fashions, don't own one single pair of sparkly or shiny high heals, and in fact, walk around barefoot mostly.

Perhaps I ought to leave cleaning my floors for a while, see how dirty I can get my feet to match my style.

Ruby, I do hope you didn't waste the carcass and used it to make chicken stock "from scratch".
It's ideal then for making risotto next day with the leftover chicken.
I'll get my coat I think.
Made me laugh!

Actually on this occasion I didn't, there was stuffing stuck in the ribs!
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Old 27-10-2015, 08:30
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So, on a thread asking if you cook your own meals or buy ready made, those who choose to cook may be seen by some as "food snobs"?

My Op, by the way, simply asked why a food related question on GD received a healthy response whilst food related questions on here often quickly wither and die.
There are threads on the first page two week old.
I understood the jist of your OP was if food threads can be popular in GD, then why don't the self same people visit the food forum? The bib is not what I suggested at all. Rather the opposite. No-one who cooks from scratch is seen as a food snob - only the ones who turn their noses up at processed products and suggest you make your own. And the perception is that those types dwell in the food forum.

Although I think people have a 'home' on this site, and many stick to it. Music threads run and run in GD until they are moved, ditto other types of threads which have to be moved to the right place. But usually those sub forums do have a reputation (music = full of current music fans; showbiz = full of scary types etc) whether or not it is deserved, and I think the food forum is no different.
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Old 27-10-2015, 18:38
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I understood the jist of your OP was if food threads can be popular in GD, then why don't the self same people visit the food forum? The bib is not what I suggested at all. Rather the opposite. No-one who cooks from scratch is seen as a food snob - only the ones who turn their noses up at processed products and suggest you make your own. And the perception is that those types dwell in the food forum.

Although I think people have a 'home' on this site, and many stick to it. Music threads run and run in GD until they are moved, ditto other types of threads which have to be moved to the right place. But usually those sub forums do have a reputation (music = full of current music fans; showbiz = full of scary types etc) whether or not it is deserved, and I think the food forum is no different.
I turn my nose up (or better put, simply refuse them) at processed food for three reasons, and none are to do with being snobbish.

The first being, processed food is bad for our health (is caring about our health snobby?)

The animals used for mass processing are treated terribly (is caring about animal welfare snobby?)

Thirdly, and this one is very important to me, processed food manufacturers have albeit destroyed local high street shops, and have played a big part in fracturing peoples relationship with food, and that enjoyment of cooking and eating together with family (is caring about local shops and fractured families snobby?)

But to be fair, I'm not bothered what I'm called in life, so here is totally irrelevant.

I just don't understand where snob can be taken from anything I've listed, I'd understand if someone said 'I only eat foie gras sprinkled in caviar'.
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Old 27-10-2015, 20:53
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Made me laugh!

Actually on this occasion I didn't, there was stuffing stuck in the ribs!
The carcass's ribs or yours?
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Old 27-10-2015, 22:55
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I turn my nose up (or better put, simply refuse them) at processed food for three reasons, and none are to do with being snobbish.

The first being, processed food is bad for our health (is caring about our health snobby?)

The animals used for mass processing are treated terribly (is caring about animal welfare snobby?)

Thirdly, and this one is very important to me, processed food manufacturers have albeit destroyed local high street shops, and have played a big part in fracturing peoples relationship with food, and that enjoyment of cooking and eating together with family (is caring about local shops and fractured families snobby?)

But to be fair, I'm not bothered what I'm called in life, so here is totally irrelevant.

I just don't understand where snob can be taken from anything I've listed, I'd understand if someone said 'I only eat foie gras sprinkled in caviar'.
I defined a (perceived) snob in the post you quoted as 'the ones who turn their noses up at processed products and suggest you make your own.'

I have bolded the important part.
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Old 28-10-2015, 00:01
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I defined a (perceived) snob in the post you quoted as 'the ones who turn their noses up at processed products and suggest you make your own.'
That's a speculation not a definition.
Earlier:

I would guess that the food forum has a certain reputation.
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Old 28-10-2015, 04:02
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To answer your OP Toby, (and by the way with a user name like yours I'm surprised you don't post in here more often), I don't post often in here because I see it more as a food specialist forum, and there's only a couple of things I know about Food and Drink, and I don't want to appear ignorant if there's experts who may pull me up on the slightest thing. I don't feel qualified or experienced enough to make a valid contribution. Most if not all the cook your own threads and baking are way over my head.

Whereas in GD well General Discussion says it all really. I'd feel more comfortable there discussing or reading about foody things because it's likely to be relaxed and easy going, lighthearted even. Interesting that you should ask the question though, and it's a good question to ask.
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Old 28-10-2015, 10:42
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That's a speculation not a definition.
Earlier:
Absoultely! The clue was in the phrase 'I defined' - which was the part of my post that Ruby missed as well.

It is all my opinion - and why not? That's what we do here. When the question is 'why don't people who are interested in cooking visit the food forum?' I am simply suggesting that there could be a problem with the way the food forum is perceived. I didn't expect such a view to be popular here!
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Old 28-10-2015, 12:56
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All i'll say is if Ruby is posting on Food & Drink now then i'll be leaving. I'm sure I won't be the only one.
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