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Old 24-10-2015, 11:56
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Is he really the father? I think he is, but others have been saying differently.
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Old 24-10-2015, 12:10
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Yes. It will be Charity return storyline.
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Old 24-10-2015, 12:16
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With KO's love of Ross, sadly I think Charity told the truth.
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Old 24-10-2015, 12:20
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With KO's love of Ross, sadly I think Charity told the truth.
That's what I thought. KO loves Ross so much it's not surprising she decided to give him a kid, carrying on the legacy and all.
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Old 24-10-2015, 12:27
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Soaps are not known for the their subtle storytelling... I'd assume if Ross wasn't the real father we would have seen at least a hint, like Charity alone in prison looking at the photo of a different man, something like that.

But then again, we never got a hint that Ross was the father, or that there even was a baby on the way beforehand, so let's wait and see what happens when Charity comes home.
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Old 24-10-2015, 12:35
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Soaps are not known for the their subtle storytelling... I'd assume if Ross wasn't the real father we would have seen at least a hint, like Charity alone in prison looking at the photo of a different man, something like that.

But then again, we never got a hint that Ross was the father, or that there even was a baby on the way beforehand, so let's wait and see what happens when Charity comes home.
We did get a few hints that Ross was the father. When Debs told Ross that Charity had given birth his reaction said it all. And when he was left holding the baby in the pub. But I don't think there is anyway of knowing until she returns. They left it very ambiguous by not having a DNA test done.
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Old 24-10-2015, 13:13
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Hopefully she lied. A terrible decision to make him the father and to have them sleep together again so soon after Donna's death.
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Old 24-10-2015, 13:23
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I don't think there's been anything to suggest that she lied.

Hopefully she lied. A terrible decision to make him the father and to have them sleep together again so soon after Donna's death.
Whilst I agree it was a terrible idea.. even if she lied about him being the father, she couldn't have lied about them sleeping together. It is something you'd think he'd remember
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Old 24-10-2015, 13:27
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That's what I thought. KO loves Ross so much it's not surprising she decided to give him a kid, carrying on the legacy and all.
That's what I thought too. I feel sorry for Moses though, having Charity and Ross as parents. The poor kid doesn't stand a chance.
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Old 24-10-2015, 13:30
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I don't see what she would have had to gain by lying - and Charity always needs something to gain.

Yes, she didn't like the idea of him being with Debbie so there was that but then why not tell Debbie directly to split them up.

True there hasn't been a DNA test so they could change it but then who could be the father instead?
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Old 24-10-2015, 13:32
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I think she probably lied. If not, it would be too unfair on baby Moses to have both a mother and a father who couldn't give a toss about him.

Sure, she had a ons with Ross, but this is Charity - she probably had them with the copper, her solictor, barrister, the judge and most of the prison guards as well any other random she came into contact with who she thought might come in useful at some point.

Can't wait for her to get back. I reckon she'll have her claws into Larry and Home Farm before poor Bernice can blink.
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Old 24-10-2015, 13:45
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I think she lied. She doesn't want Declan to come after her.
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Old 24-10-2015, 14:05
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I don't think there's been anything to suggest that she lied.

Whilst I agree it was a terrible idea.. even if she lied about him being the father, she couldn't have lied about them sleeping together. It is something you'd think he'd remember


I'm going to say that poor Moses probably is Ross' child, I just wish he wasn't. As soon as Charity's pregnancy was made known Ross began acting shifty so at least he can do the math.
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Old 24-10-2015, 15:08
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Moses has a small nose.
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Old 24-10-2015, 15:37
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Yes i believe Ross is the Farther.
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Old 24-10-2015, 15:40
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Moses has a small nose.
Poor child. Blighted so early


Honestly I can' t see what Charity would have to gain by lying to Dross. Cain' s trouble enough but at least he has a brain and cares about some other people
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Old 24-10-2015, 15:56
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The thing that annoys me is that this grease headed fool is actually using his own child to get near Debbie, he isn't interested in the kid and she won't have a permanent baby sitter on tap like she had with Pete and I can see things turning sinister too what with Sarah liking Pete and not Ross and Andy knowing his kids are now being raised by an almost murderer.

Ross cares only about Debbie not the kids she has or even his own. It worries me how many women fancy this character
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Old 24-10-2015, 16:17
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This whole storyline was such a waste of time. The baby was transparently only invented to throw another obstacle into the great Debbie/Ross 'love affair'. Did the writers purposely sit around dreaming up ways to make their relationship even more tawdry and incestuous? And it really threw Charity under a bus too. Why spend a whole year showing her going to such desperate, dramatic lengths NOT to have another child, only to have her then conceive again so carelessly and randomly? And I don't buy the excuse they dreamt up of her keeping the baby as part of some master plan to gain an early release. Why exactly did she think having a baby would equal a fast track ticket out of prison? Come on, she's normally smarter than that.
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Old 24-10-2015, 16:30
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Poor child. Blighted so early


Honestly I can' t see what Charity would have to gain by lying to Dross. Cain' s trouble enough but at least he has a brain and cares about some other people
She wanted him to do a job for her

The thing that annoys me is that this grease headed fool is actually using his own child to get near Debbie, he isn't interested in the kid and she won't have a permanent baby sitter on tap like she had with Pete and I can see things turning sinister too what with Sarah liking Pete and not Ross and Andy knowing his kids are now being raised by an almost murderer.

Ross cares only about Debbie not the kids she has or even his own. It worries me how many women fancy this character
Bad boys are very popular. Bad boys with big noses are even more popular
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Old 24-10-2015, 16:42
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This whole storyline was such a waste of time. The baby was transparently only invented to throw another obstacle into the great Debbie/Ross 'love affair'. Did the writers purposely sit around dreaming up ways to make their relationship even more tawdry and incestuous? And it really threw Charity under a bus too. Why spend a whole year showing her going to such desperate, dramatic lengths NOT to have another child, only to have her then conceive again so carelessly and randomly? And I don't buy the excuse they dreamt up of her keeping the baby as part of some master plan to gain an early release. Why exactly did she think having a baby would equal a fast track ticket out of prison? Come on, she's normally smarter than that.
Totally agree.
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Old 24-10-2015, 16:49
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I think Ross will demand a paternity test when Charity returns.
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Old 24-10-2015, 17:04
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I think Ross will demand a paternity test when Charity returns.
Why would he need to wait? Debbie is his legal guardian so could arrange it. Come to that, he could just get one done illegally, nab a hair and send it off during one of the times he is babysitting.

He evidently believes that he is, suggesting the dates match up. So, it's only if charity was sleeping with somebody else at the right time, which neither we, or he, knows about.
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Old 24-10-2015, 17:12
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Why would he need to wait? Debbie is his legal guardian so could arrange it. Come to that, he could just get one done illegally, nab a hair and send it off during one of the times he is babysitting.

He evidently believes that he is, suggesting the dates match up. So, it's only if charity was sleeping with somebody else at the right time, which neither we, or he, knows about.
True. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Old 24-10-2015, 17:28
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This whole storyline was such a waste of time. The baby was transparently only invented to throw another obstacle into the great Debbie/Ross 'love affair'. Did the writers purposely sit around dreaming up ways to make their relationship even more tawdry and incestuous? And it really threw Charity under a bus too. Why spend a whole year showing her going to such desperate, dramatic lengths NOT to have another child, only to have her then conceive again so carelessly and randomly? And I don't buy the excuse they dreamt up of her keeping the baby as part of some master plan to gain an early release. Why exactly did she think having a baby would equal a fast track ticket out of prison? Come on, she's normally smarter than that.
Can't add any more as you're spot on, great post.

Why would he need to wait? Debbie is his legal guardian so could arrange it. Come to that, he could just get one done illegally, nab a hair and send it off during one of the times he is babysitting.

He evidently believes that he is, suggesting the dates match up. So, it's only if charity was sleeping with somebody else at the right time, which neither we, or he, knows about.
It never fails to amaze me that men in ED just take a woman's word for it and never demand a DNA test. I'm not talking about those in relationships of course but a similar thing happened with Jimmy when Kelly came back saying her son was his, did HE ask for a test to prove it? Of course not, he just took a woman like her's word for it (<- I'm laughing because it's an absolute joke!) Now we have Ross just swallowing what a woman like Charity says. Ridiculous! Unfortunately in this case it probably is true as Ross has to be shoe-horned into everything but I would love it if it was just Charity being a bad-ass because she just didn't like Ross and didn't want her daughter with him!
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Old 24-10-2015, 17:48
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Of course she lied. .. she'd burst into flame life a vampire in the morning sunlight if she she told the truth
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