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Old 09-11-2015, 15:15
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Old 09-11-2015, 15:22
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The countdown begins to BBC 1 confirming this :

3.00 Queen
3.10 Wreck it Ralph
4.40 BBC News
4.55 Weather
5.00 Strictly Come Dancing
6.15 Doctor Who
7.15 Still Open All Hours
7.50 Call The Midwife
9.00 EastEnders
10.05 Mrs Brown's Boys

And ITV confirming this

3.00 Queen
3.10 Film + News (in either order)
5.20 You've Been Framed
5.50 Paul O Grady's Dogs
6.50 ITV News
7.00 Emmerdale
8.00 Coronation Street
9.00 Downton Abbey

... predictable as anything unfortunately. Would love to be wrong

Thanks for dates though
Probably more or less spot on.

Would love to see DA beat EE this year, I must admit. Deserves it more.
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Old 09-11-2015, 15:23
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Fantastic for Strictly, brill for Countryfile and AR. Not too bad for X Factor this week, poor for J&H.

Why the poor rating for Impractical Jokers? Should be doing much better!
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Old 09-11-2015, 15:31
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Fantastic for Strictly, brill for Countryfile and AR. Not too bad for X Factor this week, poor for J&H.

Why the poor rating for Impractical Jokers? Should be doing much better!
It was never going to be easy for C5 to get back into comedy. The figures for Impractical Jokers show just how difficult it's going to be. That said, they didn't advertise it at all that I saw and it got the toughest slot of the week. Just need to stick with it I think and hope it grows which it could do because its audience has risen dramatically in 3 years on Comedy Central.

That's what they should do anyway, but knowing C5 they will panic. It's weird that they are so strong at the moment Monday through to Thursday, but Friday onwards has been a massive struggle. It's really hurting their shares at the moment as according to BARB the channel hasn't topped 4% share for three weeks in a row, which is awful.

I think any chance they had of finishing up for the year is now all but gone, because this time last year they had Gotham and stronger weekends. October has been very punishing for them y-o-y.
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Old 09-11-2015, 15:49
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Fantastic for strictly. I wonder how long it will outlive x factor by.
Well in 2013 the BBC said it didn't have any longer than 5 years so it should be done by 2018. A year or two longer then, although XF could go on much longer if it becomes a smaller-scale show on a smaller channel.
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Old 09-11-2015, 15:51
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Just had the C5 press pack drop for Week 49.

The big news is they've landed another top Disney title just before Christmas- The Little Mermaid will be screening on Sunday, November 29 at a time TBC. Should rate quite nicely, you would think.

Also premiering a new series looking at the issue of homelessness at Christmas. And a Freeview screening of National Geographic channel's T. rex Autopsy.
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Old 09-11-2015, 15:53
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Fantastic for Strictly, brill for Countryfile and AR. Not too bad for X Factor this week, poor for J&H.

Why the poor rating for Impractical Jokers? Should be doing much better!
No, it's rubbish and unfunny..
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Old 09-11-2015, 15:55
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Well in 2013 the BBC said it didn't have any longer than 5 years so it should be done by 2018. A year or two longer then, although XF could go on much longer if it becomes a smaller-scale show on a smaller channel.
SCD will outlive X Factor whether it moves channel or not. SCD is not as good as it could be (Presenters league 2) but it has a momentum all of its own. The judges are crucial. X Factor has followed BB trajectory
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Old 09-11-2015, 16:18
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Just had the C5 press pack drop for Week 49.

The big news is they've landed another top Disney title just before Christmas- The Little Mermaid will be screening on Sunday, November 29 at a time TBC. Should rate quite nicely, you would think.

Also premiering a new series looking at the issue of homelessness at Christmas. And a Freeview screening of National Geographic channel's T. rex Autopsy.
How long before we get The Lion King? They've pretty done the majority of the backcatalogue apart from that one.

They do need to improve the weekend slots, Saturdays could be easily fixed with moving back FLT to 10pm, Sundays should be movies all day, the fact Robin Hood Prince of Thieves got over 1m does show people could tune.
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SCD will outlive X Factor whether it moves channel or not. SCD is not as good as it could be (Presenters league 2) but it has a momentum all of its own. The judges are crucial. X Factor has followed BB trajectory
What does that make Olly and Caroline?
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What does that make Olly and Caroline?
Oily and Caroline would be Evo Stik Northern Premier League First Division South !!
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Old 09-11-2015, 16:35
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Oily and Caroline would be Evo Stik Northern Premier League First Division South !!
There's settling in and then there's what looks like an under rehearsed mess. Shocking. I don't find Claudia funny on Strictly but her and Tess are more than capable. That's not to say they're brilliant personalities, but capable unlike some.
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Old 09-11-2015, 16:47
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There's settling in and then there's what looks like an under rehearsed mess. Shocking. I don't find Claudia funny on Strictly but her and Tess are more than capable. That's not to say they're brilliant personalities, but capable unlike some.
I find Claudia funny but her role is to be the comedy to Tess' 'straight man'. And, to a large degree, it works. Each of their roles is clearly defined; Claudia can ad-lib whereas Tess relies on the same patter every week she picked up from Brucie (they're standing on their feet! Look at that! etc etc) and without the autocue she would be lost.

Tess is a competent compere to link the segments and Claudia provides the light relief after the judges' comments and to the contestants.
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Old 09-11-2015, 17:00
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I find Claudia funny but her role is to be the comedy to Tess' 'straight man'. And, to a large degree, it works. Each of their roles is clearly defined; Claudia can ad-lib whereas Tess relies on the same patter every week she picked up from Brucie (they're standing on their feet! Look at that! etc etc) and without the autocue she would be lost.

Tess is a competent compere to link the segments and Claudia provides the light relief after the judges' comments and to the contestants.
I found Claudia great on It Takes Two but no more.
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Old 09-11-2015, 17:21
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BARB have updated w/e 1 November.

Notable ratings:
Strictly Come Dancing (Sat) - 10.85m (+1.50m)
Strictly Come Dancing (Sun) - 10.24m (+0.54m)
Downton Abbey (Sun) - 9.80m/10.26m (+2.26m/+2.38m)
Coronation Street (Mon 1930) - 7.98m (+0.90m)
Doc Martin - 7.28m/7.58m (+1.29m/+1.37m)
The Apprentice (Wed) - 7.25m (+1.66m)
The X Factor (Sun) - 7.16m/7.40m (+0.69m/+0.71m)
EastEnders (Fri 1930) - 7.04m (+1.17m)
The X Factor (Sat) - 6.95m/7.24m (+1.56m/+1.61m)
The Hunt - 5.80m (+1.36m)
Doctor Who (Sat) - 5.76m (+1.89m)
Gogglebox (Fri) - 4.73m/5.33m (+1.24m/+1.35m)
A couple of others

Cuffs 4.93 (+0.71m) beating Casualty and Holby
Celebrity Juice 1.70m, not sure of overnight figure.

Both shows get a hard time on here and both done well.
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Old 09-11-2015, 17:32
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Shame for J&H, but then nobody really gave it a chance. Just stick to 'safe' BBC1. Not that BBC1 is showing anything other than quality programmes.

Superb for SCD, fantastic for DA. Shares over 42% at 10.20pm with 8.7m watching. I hope to see this do well at cHristmas. I agree with Dancc, it would be nice to see DA go out with a bang on Xmas Day and to the ratings. But for some reason, even in EE's weak state, viewers who never watch EE througout the year, watch on the day. The mind boggles.

For IAC next week, if it delivers a rating over 10.5m we could see some super shares at 10.30pm.
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Old 09-11-2015, 17:36
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A couple of others

Cuffs 4.93 (+0.71m) beating Casualty and Holby
Celebrity Juice 1.70m, not sure of overnight figure.

Both shows get a hard time on here and both done well.

That's a pretty poor rating for Cuffs, I'm sorry to say. Can't see it coming back for series 2 now, especially since last week it got 3.4m - that would be a consolidated rating of just over 4m based on the above figure.
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Old 09-11-2015, 17:40
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5.33m for Unforgotten ep4

1.87m inc+1 for Celebrity Juice Halloween special
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Old 09-11-2015, 17:56
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5.33m for Unforgotten ep4

1.87m inc+1 for Celebrity Juice Halloween special
Quite surprised Unforgotten has gone so low - its not perfect but better than a lot of ITV dramas. Probably would have held up better on Mondays I suppose.
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Old 09-11-2015, 18:08
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Some really nice numbers last night, unless you're a fan of Jekyll and Hyde. Abysmal.

A couple of others

Cuffs 4.93 (+0.71m) beating Casualty and Holby
Celebrity Juice 1.70m, not sure of overnight figure.

Both shows get a hard time on here and both done well.
That's a pretty poor rating for Cuffs, I'm sorry to say. Can't see it coming back for series 2 now, especially since last week it got 3.4m - that would be a consolidated rating of just over 4m based on the above figure.
I'm more surprised to see Casualty and Holby City under 5 million - I know the latter has opt-outs, but I'm certain the former consolidates to over 5 million?
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Old 09-11-2015, 19:02
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BARB have updated w/e 1 November.

Notable ratings:
Strictly Come Dancing (Sat) - 10.85m (+1.50m)
Strictly Come Dancing (Sun) - 10.24m (+0.54m)
Downton Abbey (Sun) - 9.80m/10.26m (+2.26m/+2.38m)
Coronation Street (Mon 1930) - 7.98m (+0.90m)
Doc Martin - 7.28m/7.58m (+1.29m/+1.37m)
The Apprentice (Wed) - 7.25m (+1.66m)
The X Factor (Sun) - 7.16m/7.40m (+0.69m/+0.71m)
EastEnders (Fri 1930) - 7.04m (+1.17m)
The X Factor (Sat) - 6.95m/7.24m (+1.56m/+1.61m)
The Hunt - 5.80m (+1.36m)
Doctor Who (Sat) - 5.76m (+1.89m)
Gogglebox (Fri) - 4.73m/5.33m (+1.24m/+1.35m)
That rating for Doctor Who is the 3rd lowest ever in the 'Nu Who' era

While for X-factor (if my numbers are right) you have to go back to Nov 2007 to find a lower rated episode and they fall into the bottom 10% for ratings since the programme started

Some really nice numbers last night, unless you're a fan of Jekyll and Hyde. Abysmal.

I'm more surprised to see Casualty and Holby City under 5 million - I know the latter has opt-outs, but I'm certain the former consolidates to over 5 million?
The X-factor factor? The week before Casualty consolidated to 5.03m (when it was also against it). The two weeks previous were 5.43m and 5.55m.
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Old 09-11-2015, 19:07
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I'm more surprised to see Casualty and Holby City under 5 million - I know the latter has opt-outs, but I'm certain the former consolidates to over 5 million?
The X-factor factor? The week before Casualty consolidated to 5.03m (when it was also against it). The two weeks previous were 5.43m and 5.55m.
Casualty

Saturday 24 October
Overnight: 3.95m / 18.7% = 21.1m total TV audience
Consolidated: 5.03m (+1.08m crude timeshift, +27%)

Saturday 31 October
Overnight: 3.65m / 18.5% = 19.7m total TV audience
Consolidated: 4.71m (+1.06m crude timeshift, +29%)

A Hallowe'en effect not mitigated by sufficient catch-up, it looks like.

No doubt aberdaberdonian is correct about the lack of TXF helping in previous weeks.

Holby, not affected by Hallowe'en, was actually up on the previous week (4.62m v 4.51m). As D.M.N. notes, Holby's 'officials' exclude Scotland.
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The countdown begins to BBC 1 confirming this :

3.00 Queen
3.10 Wreck it Ralph
4.40 BBC News
4.55 Weather
5.00 Strictly Come Dancing
6.15 Doctor Who
7.15 Still Open All Hours
7.50 Call The Midwife
9.00 EastEnders
10.05 Mrs Brown's Boys

And ITV confirming this

3.00 Queen
3.10 Film + News (in either order)
5.20 You've Been Framed
5.50 Paul O Grady's Dogs
6.50 ITV News
7.00 Emmerdale
8.00 Coronation Street
9.00 Downton Abbey

... predictable as anything unfortunately. Would love to be wrong

Thanks for dates though
I think you may be right. I think the BBC may switch Dr Who and Strictly around, Dr Who at 5pm and Strictly following at 6pm.

If I were the BBC I would have Mrs Brown at 9pm and EastEnders from 9:30pm. This may work well against a resurgent Downton. Although I think watching Downton for 2 hours live on Christmas night with ads, may be a draw back for itv and a plus for BBC One. Also normally BBC One is the channel of choice over the festive period. I think when time shifts are taken into account,Downton should be in the top 3 shows even may be number 1?
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Old 09-11-2015, 19:20
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Some really nice numbers last night, unless you're a fan of Jekyll and Hyde. Abysmal.





I'm more surprised to see Casualty and Holby City under 5 million - I know the latter has opt-outs, but I'm certain the former consolidates to over 5 million?
In the overnights about 400,000 of the Holby audience are watching River City in Scotland
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In the overnights about 400,000 of the Holby audience are watching River City in Scotland
The last edition of Holby City to make Broadcast magazine's chart of the top 30 consolidators was on 8 September. It's good when this happens because you can derive the River City overnight from it. Here is the calculation:

Overnight: 4.03m (19.3% of UK audience)
* includes Scotland (River City)

minus -0.27m viewers of River City in Scotland*
plus +0.61m pure timeshift in Eng/Wales/NI (+16%)

equals Consolidated: 4.37m (19.5% of UK audience)

It used to be that Holby lost about -400k through disregarding Scotland and then regained +400k through consolidation, resulting in the consolidated number roughly matching the overnight; but now it seems Holby's timeshift has increased while River City's overnights have declined (admittedly judging by that single week in September).

* should be correct to within 0.02m; any tape-checking adjustment would have been tiny.
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