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Old 11-11-2015, 13:07
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So its looks like ITV was big loser at 8pm. ITV might be making huge profits, but if their audience continues to decline every year, evebtually this will come to bite them on the backside. Putting out crap throughout the year, viewers will not turn up for the better shows.

One good thing though about ITV making huge profits, is that expensive dramas like J&H failing won't hit to them hard enough to put them off. Since they have Beowulf to come, pehaps they'll schedule it more wisely.

Victoria is another big expensive drama. And I suspect as its filming now, with either go out in April, or launch next year September. My guess is the latter.


Corrie is in dire straights. But they don't seem bothered about their longest running show posting huge drops YOY. Let's face it, if Corrie continues to decline at the rate it is now, ITV won't be attracting much audience per-say, as Corrie does support the schedule.
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Old 11-11-2015, 13:17
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ITV's gains in profits were no doubt boosted by BGT's stellar performance earlier this year!
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Old 11-11-2015, 13:21
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ITV Encore launches its first original commission tonight at 10pm, six-part series
The Frankenstrein Chronicles.

As I've now got NOWTV I can actually watchit. I;m intersted to see how this does. Its been promoted quite a bit, so its a test for ITV Encore whether its a good move, or complete waste of time. Whatever happens ITV should show this drama on the main channel sometime in Summer next year where we otherwise might just have rpt's of dramas in the same week.

And I see YBF has made its comeback. 8pm on Wednesday for 30minutes to lead into IAC. It will probably boost it over 4m, but there must be something better now, we're in November for pity sake.
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Old 11-11-2015, 13:24
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Why Murdoch? Since when has he been associated with quality TV in this country? Sky is even lousier than ITV when it comes to original content.
He was just a name that sprung to mind, it need not be Murdoch. I grant you some of sky's output is not exactly original, but there is the occasion nice surprise on Sky 1. I am not a Murdoch supporter by the way, incase you were wondering.
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Old 11-11-2015, 14:02
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ITV Encore launches its first original commission tonight at 10pm, six-part series
The Frankenstrein Chronicles.

As I've now got NOWTV I can actually watchit. I;m intersted to see how this does. Its been promoted quite a bit, so its a test for ITV Encore whether its a good move, or complete waste of time. Whatever happens ITV should show this drama on the main channel sometime in Summer next year where we otherwise might just have rpt's of dramas in the same week.

And I see YBF has made its comeback. 8pm on Wednesday for 30minutes to lead into IAC. It will probably boost it over 4m, but there must be something better now, we're in November for pity sake.
Technically The Frankenstein Chronicles is ITV Encore's second original commission after Midwinter of the Spirit which was switched to the main channel. But after that performance I doubt The Frankenstein Chronicles will be on ITV anytime soon.

ITV keeping News At Ten at ten on Wednesday.
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Old 11-11-2015, 14:03
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Is that the best ITV can get for IAC? The so called 'celeb' line up is laughable... lol no idea who they are, only that Gemma from last year and why bring her back for?
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Old 11-11-2015, 14:05
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Having read this thread a bit it's clear that there is very little understanding of how itv makes its money. Revenue is Price x Quantity. There is endless posts about the Quantity of audiences and zero about the price of audiences which obviously vary hugely depending on hour of day, month of year, composition etc so thanks for at least trying to widen the debate but I fear it will fall on deaf ears.

The other point in yesterday's earnings was the growth of online revenue which is more than offsetting to advertising declines because it's much more targeted and the wastage element of tv advertising is not there.
A very sensible post in my view,constantly comparing audiences between BBC1 and ITV is meaningless,ITV know when they schedule say J&H against Strictly what audience it will get,and that is the decision they have made for whatever reason,you can bet it will still make them money.

ITV still have 99% of all shows over 5 million,so advertisers have nowhere else to go to hit a mass market.
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Old 11-11-2015, 14:05
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Is that the best ITV can get for IAC? The so called 'celeb' line up is laughable... lol no idea who they are, only that Gemma from last year and why bring her back for?
I dont think Gemma is going back in.
Also do you not know tony Hadley from Spandau Ballet
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Old 11-11-2015, 14:09
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Is that the best ITV can get for IAC? The so called 'celeb' line up is laughable... lol no idea who they are, only that Gemma from last year and why bring her back for?
You have never heard of Duncan Bannatyne?
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Old 11-11-2015, 14:13
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You have never heard of Duncan Bannatyne?
He's the biggest signing probably, and Tony Hadley is a good name for an older audience, but he hasn't been 'famous' for a good while- The rest of the line up is pretty poor though- More Channel 5 CBB than prime time ITV on its biggest show
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Old 11-11-2015, 14:17
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Nope, never heard of either ^ :/
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Old 11-11-2015, 14:22
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Nope, never heard of either ^ :/
Well unfortunately thats your problem,try Googling them.
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Old 11-11-2015, 14:29
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Whatever the calibre of the IAC 'celebrities' it always gets a cracking rating and I think this year will be no different.
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Old 11-11-2015, 14:34
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Same as SCD this year. Posts about calibre of celebs and it's doing great.
IAC will do just fine though I have to admit there are a few who I say, Who ? as well.....
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Old 11-11-2015, 15:02
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Technically The Frankenstein Chronicles is ITV Encore's second original commission after Midwinter of the Spirit which was switched to the main channel. But after that performance I doubt The Frankenstein Chronicles will be on ITV anytime soon.

ITV keeping News At Ten at ten on Wednesday.
Actually NAT is at 10.30 pm on Wednesday according to the ITV web site - no doubt Tom Bradby will blame the BBC.Private Eye is worth reading this week on ''News at Tom''
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Old 11-11-2015, 15:03
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Is that the best ITV can get for IAC? The so called 'celeb' line up is laughable... lol no idea who they are, only that Gemma from last year and why bring her back for?
In the past I would have agreed.

But Strictly and I'm A Celebrity have shown, over several series, that a line-up that might look weak on paper can be entertaining once the series starts.
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Old 11-11-2015, 15:27
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A very sensible post in my view,constantly comparing audiences between BBC1 and ITV is meaningless,ITV know when they schedule say J&H against Strictly what audience it will get,and that is the decision they have made for whatever reason,you can bet it will still make them money.

ITV still have 99% of all shows over 5 million,so advertisers have nowhere else to go to hit a mass market.
you mean 'over 5 million on commercial TV'...
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Old 11-11-2015, 15:41
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A very sensible post in my view,constantly comparing audiences between BBC1 and ITV is meaningless,ITV know when they schedule say J&H against Strictly what audience it will get,and that is the decision they have made for whatever reason,you can bet it will still make them money.

ITV still have 99% of all shows over 5 million,so advertisers have nowhere else to go to hit a mass market.
But if its meaningless why are ITV always doing it and complaining about BBC being too competitive?

Also ITV get nowhere near 99% of programmes over 5m - they cant even get that in peaktime !!
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Old 11-11-2015, 15:47
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But if its meaningless why are ITV always doing it and complaining about BBC being too competitive?

Also ITV get nowhere near 99% of programmes over 5m - they cant even get that in peaktime !!
Pretty obvious when the poster talks about advertisers that it's commercial channels he is talking about. Maybe this would better be taken to the broadcasting thread as a separate topic?
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Old 11-11-2015, 15:57
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Actually NAT is at 10.30 pm on Wednesday according to the ITV web site - no doubt Tom Bradby will blame the BBC.Private Eye is worth reading this week on ''News at Tom''
I want to read that Private Eye article!
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Old 11-11-2015, 16:01
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Why Murdoch? Since when has he been associated with quality TV in this country?
Broadchurch, Life on Mars, Humans, The Hour.

That's just one each from the four main channels. Made by 100% Murdoch owned companies, not just one where he's a shareholder like Sky.
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Old 11-11-2015, 16:04
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Also ITV get nowhere near 99% of programmes over 5m - they cant even get that in peaktime !!
I think he means that "of the programmes that are over 5m on commercial channels, 99% are on ITV"

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Old 11-11-2015, 16:26
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He's the biggest signing probably, and Tony Hadley is a good name for an older audience, but he hasn't been 'famous' for a good while- The rest of the line up is pretty poor though- More Channel 5 CBB than prime time ITV on its biggest show
CBB on C5 has always had better line ups than IAC though..
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Old 11-11-2015, 16:49
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Its much easier to get the lesser known celebs to travel from the UK to Australia than it is for the bigger stars. Despite the amuont of viewers who watch IAC, the difference between being on a dancing show and living in the Jungle for 3 weeks is immense no matter how much you paid.

And like every year, its the characters that make IAC, not the star power. Look at Michael Beurk a big singing, being paid a reported £500,000 and yet he was pretty boring and did little to entertain.

If the characters on IAC are interesting, IAC will do well. Look at Janice Dickinson. Not many in the UK had heard of her, and she turned out to be one of their best singings.

If you don't like IAC then keep watching SCD.
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Old 11-11-2015, 16:51
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Is that the best ITV can get for IAC? The so called 'celeb' line up is laughable... lol no idea who they are, only that Gemma from last year and why bring her back for?
Gemma is NOT going back in, so where you got that from I have no idea.

We have this every year, and every year those who say its a crap line up tend to be the ones who don't watch, have never watched it and never will.
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