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The Ratings Thread (Part 66)
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spursboy68
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“There's enough Takeaway on already. Isn't that why it took a break? Because they ran it into the ground. BGT goes on for a while with all the auditions. Ant & Dec have said many times that they are too busy to do any new projects and have a big enough workload already. Plus they enjoy the shows which they are doing currently. A Takeaway Christmas special could be fitted in I'm sure if they wanted to do it though.”

There are only six Takeaways a series, hardly overkill, when you consider House Party ran to 22 a series.
JordyD
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by AcerBen:
“Takeaway ought to be on a lot more. Don't they only do about 6 episodes a year? What the hell are Ant & Dec doing the rest of the year apart from BGT and IAC which aren't on for very long.”

So they do an intensive run of Takeaway, three weeks solids of IAC Live, live Text Santa, BGT Live week, BGT auditons, and you think ITV don't get enough out of them?
jlp95bwfc
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by spursboy68:
“There are only six Takeaways a series, hardly overkill, when you consider House Party ran to 22 a series.”

12 would be overkill though. Plus Ant & Dec don't want to do it so end of. There's an awful lot of work that goes into Takeaway which people don't realise. Ant & Dec have to plan and film all the undercover/pre recorded segments etc and they've said before that Takeaway is the show with the biggest workload out of the ones they do.
dullagj2
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“POD dogs 4.2m (20%) v EastEnders 5.1m (24%)

Given it started life against EE, and dented the soap in its 1st series due to its popularity, I see its happened again.”

Interesting that +1 is included but +1.5 isn't. (4.2m v 5.5m)

Watchdog and POG did well against the soaps garnering 4m each.

First Dates top for Channel 4 with 1.3m exc.+1.

Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“Whilst the ratings for Corrie are poor generally, it only lost 200k viewers from it's regular slot episode on Wednesday. Why does EE lose so many more viewers every time it is moved out of slot? EE had tougher competition without doubt but the fact is that it has had lots of promotion. Even if the start time wasn't advertised, people would find it it if they really wanted to. We'll have to wait and see what happens tonight.

Funny that people talk about Corrie's OAP audience, and yet they seem to be able to find their way around slot changes and TV schedules much easier than EE's younger fanbase .”

Emmerdale constantly provides a decent lead in to Corrie which Corrie always builds on. There is a big crossover in viewership for the ITV soaps which is evident in the soaps forum.

Younger viewers are more likely to catch up at a later date.

Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“The thing puzzling me about the overall response today is that had it clashed with ED the rating would be lower but wouldn't really have merited much discussion. Tonight's rating is the real key. Surely it won't be beaten by an out of slot and earlier starting Corrie?”

Corrie is in Emmerdale's slot so it'll be fine. Many will probably watch their recording at the normal time too.

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I'd like to think EastEnders will have people timing in for a special episode. But it's on Friday, the lowest rated day for soaps.



EastEnders hasn't crossed 7m in overnight ratings since March. That's awful. Something needs to change.”

Emmerdale hasn't crossed 7m since 18th February 2014. Corrie hasn't passed 8.7m this year. It's a sign of the times.

It's easy to spin things; EastEnders is the only soap to cross 8.7m this year. It did so for a whole week.

Tonight is a big episode, let's see if it can deliver.
spursboy68
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“12 would be overkill though. Plus Ant & Dec don't want to do it so end of. There's an awful lot of work that goes into Takeaway which people don't realise. Ant & Dec have to plan and film all the undercover/pre recorded segments etc and they've said before that Takeaway is the show with the biggest workload out of the ones they do.”

I'm not saying they should do more. I'm just saying that there is room in the schedule to do so. Someone else said they thought they didn't*do enough.
xeo
30-10-2015
If ITV's soaps were on at their regular times tonight, what would the BBC have done with their hour-long EE?
Pizzatheaction
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Unforgotton looks low - does that include HD etc?”

Another misfire for November and co, and another flop for Trevor Eve. He hasn't had much luck recently with this and Interceptor, and that risible Kidnap and Ransom revival.
Pizzatheaction
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by xeo:
“If ITV's soaps were on at their regular times tonight, what would the BBC have done with their hour-long EE?”

They wouldn't have shown it. They used tonight because they saw an opportunity, thanks to the consolation game at the Rugby Union World Cup.
hyperstarsponge
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“It's because it had seemingly less competition at 8.30pm and is later in the evening. You'd expect more than just over 5m. And if people can't be arsed to watch when it goes out it will be zero use over Christmas to be a tentpole to build a schedule around.”

Sounds like the EastEnders need to move to 13:00 on Christmas Day and put something else in its timeslot, Or show the Christmas episode at 15:00 on Boxing Day. Soaps are so annoying and should be on at daytime anyway.
Aurora13
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Another misfire for November and co, and another flop for Trevor Eve. He hasn't had much luck recently with this and Interceptor, and that risible Kidnap and Ransom revival.”

If show was on BBC it would have at least million more. ITV has lost its audience for 'more' complex drama. The problem here is not the actual drama it's the channel. It's become soap / celebrity focused. Drama with a celeb actor with painting by numbers plotting is what works.
A.D.P
30-10-2015
Latest panic idea from SyCo to try to prop up the ailing X Factor. There may be scores given on each performance for how it was sung and the overall performance. Talk is, in what would be a highly original idea for SyCo maybe the judges to add a bit of drama, and suspense to hold up paddles with the score on them.

John Whittingdale was contacted on this and if X Factor does this. SCD will have to be shown at 2 am, as viewers prefer it, (ITV words; Unfair completion of a show that's better than theirs).
H of De Vil
30-10-2015
Have you watched J&H yet ADP? Without comparing it to DW.
Dan R
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Latest panic idea from SyCo to try to prop up the ailing X Factor. There may be scores given on each performance for how it was sung and the overall performance. Talk is, in what would be a highly original idea for SyCo maybe the judges to add a bit of drama, and suspense to hold up paddles with the score on them.

John Whittingdale was contacted on this and if X Factor does this. SCD will have to be shown at 2 am, as viewers prefer it, (ITV words; Unfair completion of a show that's better than theirs).”

How dare they consider a scoring system when the sacred Strictly is on! Strictly is definitely the first ever show to score its contestants! The BBC are SO innovative and SUCH an innovative cornerstone of our society!!1!!!1!!!11!!
sally_allen
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Sounds like the EastEnders need to move to 13:00 on Christmas Day and put something else in its timeslot, Or show the Christmas episode at 15:00 on Boxing Day. Soaps are so annoying and should be on at daytime anyway.”

Not to 7-8 million.
Anyways soaps are the only show that gets 6-8 million every week and boost the channel share.
A.D.P
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“How dare they consider a scoring system when the sacred Strictly is on! Strictly is definitely the first ever show to score its contestants! The BBC are SO innovative and SUCH an innovative cornerstone of our society!!1!!!1!!!11!!”

How true, - copycats!
A.D.P
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Have you watched J&H yet ADP? Without comparing it to DW.”

Thanks for asking, I gave it ten minutes and gave up, I can see the ratings fall. It cannot be in that slot, and needs to be on far later, if ITV show episode two at 7 pm, I can see them getting in big trouble over it.

To be fair I can't compare it to Doctor Who, one is a quality drama with suspense and well written, the other is not, and got 800 complaints.
spursboy68
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by xeo:
“If ITV's soaps were on at their regular times tonight, what would the BBC have done with their hour-long EE?”

There wouldn't have been one.
pjh8
30-10-2015
Any rating for the new Thursday Xtra Factor? Seemed to work much better than the weekends and gain momentum for the live show.
Servalan
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“Class of 92 - 3.1m
Unforgotten - 3.6m (3.8m)”

BIB - so clearly nobody paid attention to the Daily Mail's puff piece or Alison Graham's hysterical praise in the Radio Times (and on Twitter) …
Servalan
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Thanks for asking, I gave it ten minutes and gave up, I can see the ratings fall. It cannot be in that slot, and needs to be on far later, if ITV show episode two at 7 pm, I can see them getting in big trouble over it.

To be fair I can't compare it to Doctor Who, one is a quality drama with suspense and well written, the other is not, and got 800 complaints.”

BIB - it should never have been in that slot from the start … but clearly Bergg and Fincham are happy to sacrifice a new high profile drama commission to the BBC's biggest entertainment show. Clueless doesn't even come close.
JordyD
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Thanks for asking, I gave it ten minutes and gave up, I can see the ratings fall. It cannot be in that slot, and needs to be on far later, if ITV show episode two at 7 pm, I can see them getting in big trouble over it.

To be fair I can't compare it to Doctor Who, one is a quality drama with suspense and well written, the other is not, and got 800 complaints.”

You gave up because it was in the wrong timeslot?
Dancc
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by pjh8:
“Any rating for the new Thursday Xtra Factor? Seemed to work much better than the weekends and gain momentum for the live show.”

Less than 0.24m (exc. +1), so worse than the Two and a Half Men repeats normally do there.

Not a great surprise to see it tank. It's been rating quite poorly with the support of the main show, so without it only the diehards are going to be tuning in.
H of De Vil
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Thanks for asking, I gave it ten minutes and gave up, I can see the ratings fall. It cannot be in that slot, and needs to be on far later, if ITV show episode two at 7 pm, I can see them getting in big trouble over it.

To be fair I can't compare it to Doctor Who, one is a quality drama with suspense and well written, the other is not, and got 800 complaints.”

Well who could have predicted that

I knew you wouldn't continue with it, are you really that stubborn that because its on ITV you don't give it a 2nd look. You can bet your bottom dollar if it was on BBC1 you'd be watching it. In fact its forgone conclusion really.

What did you not like about it then? Why was the quality not up to DW's standards?

The complaints were for its early slot, not its quality.
Score
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“BIB - so clearly nobody paid attention to the Daily Mail's puff piece or Alison Graham's hysterical praise in the Radio Times (and on Twitter) …”

A pity they didn't. It's really good, but hasn't found a particularly large audience sadly.
Score
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Less than 0.24m (exc. +1), so worse than the Two and a Half Men repeats normally do there.

Not a great surprise to see it tank. It's been rating quite poorly with the support of the main show, so without it only the diehards are going to be tuning in.”

It seemed to work well on air but ratings-wise it was a disaster waiting to happen. Did they even promote it? If they thought it had any chance they'd have gone for 8pm. 7pm just made it seem like an afterthought.
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