Its no more in trouble than cs or ed or the majority of shows on tv these days which are in ratings decline, its just wishful thinking on some posters

I think Emmerdale is in bigger trouble than Corrie creatively tbh. It's really struggling at the moment with Zac Dingle and Paddy the Vet becoming sex gods and the endless Ross storylines. It could be a very tough 2016 for the rural soap.

Alternatively the new producer could have lots of new ideas not involving affairs and improve its quality once again. Nobody knows what will happen yet. Admittedly it's going through its first real rough patch in terms of quality under Kate Oates imo.

The frustration with Corrie is that everything is in place to make it a great soap again but everything is executed poorly under Blackburn.

The main long term problem for Eastenders is that it no longer has any real support within the BBC hierarchy since Ben Stephenson Danny Cohen and even Yentob have left for pastures new.Those three were vocal in their support.It has now been set adrift on its own,and its very unlikely it will still be around by 2020 licence negotiation.

Very interesting. Do we have the +3 figure yet?

10th March was a Tuesday.

We know all the soaps are down but that is still a good figure for EE as it is close to CS.
All the "it should be doing better" quotes are redundant as that applies to all of them as well.

Last night's ratings (excluding soaps) from DS :

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ratings...ds-on-tuesday/

Thanks. Looks like DS have reported the excl HD for ITV again. They'd be better leaving it off if they can't report the correct rating, no matter how low.

ED is dire right now so im not surprised it's not gaining any boost weeks of terrible plots and boring characters.

I should also add ED has not been promoted on ITV since October and wasn't even featured in their ITV at Christmas advert despite it being one of their top 3 rated programmes, instead megaflops like Peter and Wendy and HP ghost hunter were included.

Can't comment on EE as not watched it since Christmas day ep but by all accounts it was an improved episode the past couple of days.

People do not want to watch ad laden stuff for hours on end which is why anything over an hour has bombed on ITV except the sound of music.

Always get the dates mixed up. Tuesday 10th March was the last time EastEnders went over 7m this year. Monday 2nd March was the last time EastEnders had a final rating over 8m this year.

Shows how disappointing ratings were after Live Week's halo effect wore off. And it wore off because of what followed it.

To not go over 7m in overnights or 8m in consolidated ratings since March isn't great. The programme takes much of the blame for that in my opinion.

They also seem to have reported the exc HD average for Spider-Man as the peak.

Last night's soap ratings from DS :

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/east...eans-downfall/

EastEnders 6.93m / 31.4% (BBC3 409k / 2.2%)

Emmerdale 5.66m / 27.1% (+1 178k / 0.8%)

Holby City 4.23m / 20%

Hollyoaks (C4) 819k / 4.1% (+1 46k / 0.2%)
Hollyoaks (E4) 406k / 1.9% (+1 106k / 0.5%)

Thats a good jump for ED with the HD figures added

Ratings from a year ago:

EE 7.41m/32.3%.

ED: 6.00/28.0%.

So I make that EE down 450k (0.9%) and ED down 350k (0.9%).

Well at least the EE talk has stopped us focussing on another primetime disaster for ITV.

ITV soaps always add around a million with HD but 'some' seem to ignore it because it doesn't fit with their anti-ITV agenda.

Slight correction as your figure from last year includes +1 for ED, so it's actually down around 150k.

I don't think it really qualifies as a disaster when all they ran was a movie repeat. Saturday and Sunday were disasters. I can't imagine they expected any more than they got from last night. I expect Spider-Man was about 2.1-2.3m with HD and +1 which is obviously very poor but it's still better than their brand new dramas got at the weekend, so expect more of the same next Christmas.

2 million is the new standard for ITV.

Did it? Well im still not celebrating as an ED fan and personally I don't think the EE lot should be either but it's their prerogative.

So all the gloating about Emmerdale and it turns out it was only 0.15m down year on year. Down less than EE's highly anticipated episode. What a fuss over nothing.

EastEnders notched up a better rating than it has of late and doesn't look too bad. It is poor that it has failed to break 7m yet over the Christmas period, but I expect it'll manage it on New Year's Day for the 8pm episode. Possibly even 7.5m.

I'm intrigued to see how Sherlock does. It got 9.2m last time it was on NYD and that was against much tougher competition from ITV than it had last night in Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows which got 5.1m. I expect The Big Quiz will struggle to get half of that. Having said that, audiences are down across the board and the last series was pants so I'm not sure it'll match that rating. The Dickensian lead-in might be weak as well. It got 8.8m for the two remaining episodes last time and in its previous stint on NYD it got 8.7m so much below either of those and there's a problem. It should definitely be looking to break 8m I think. I'd consider 8.5m a good result.

It really does. There is an obsession with EE in particular