The trailer didn't do anything to sell Jericho. It just made it look mundane, lackluster and rather forgettable. Let's be honest, fans of period dramas want romance, brooding heroes, feisty heroines and gorgeous scenery - sadly Jericho just looked grim! No wonder everyone flocked to Death in Paradise - given a choice between clear blue skies and beautiful beaches and muddy shacks and claustrophobic mines, it's obvious what most people would choose!

The BBC iPlayer ratings are requests not complete viewings.

They also include viewings via TV sets, which are already included in the regular BARB figures.

....and


http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...yer-eastenders

Good to see that more are watching iPlayer on the big screen (especially Sky's 1080i HD).

And yet the 1st series and 1st ep of BBC drama The Village, the most depressing looking drama consolidated to 8m+.

I don't buy the trailer didn't sell it, I thought it looked fine. I just think ITV have lost a loyal audience.

Thats good news regarding eastenders some great ratings there on iplayer taking most of the top spots.

I Wonder how corrie does on itv player or the hub as its now called, i believe they dont release there figures is that correct ?

There are usually two episodes on New Year's Day (often joined together as one) but it's unusual to lose a New Year's Eve episode when it falls on a Monday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday.

This Wednesday's episode has made up for that.

2016 could be tough, too, with Euro 2016 and the Olympics.

Let's enjoy the January ratings while they last.

but the individual program request results don't include VM and Sky (those are captured by BARB) so is the only overlap via YouView?.

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Lip Sync Battle has a lot of buzz today, Being trending on Twitter since this morning. Could it out rate BB?

That's probably as good as it's going to get. Surely no one at ITV expected that scheduling to work?!

Sunday? Friday?

Better still, February/March when BBC One turns into Light Factual Central.

Not trending in the UK, that I can see anyway.

It won't outrate CBB, but could do quite well.

Brilliant, thanks Dancc I think it's a great show, a strong story arc and interesting lead characters. I hear that a second series is in the works, so hopefully Sky Living pick that series up as well.

Dancc, you have a PM if you're reading (not fan mail I'm afraid )

Annoying isn't it? When will they get it sorted?

I suppose apart from YouView, any device that connects directly to BBC servers. PlayStation, Freetime, NowTV, Amazon Fire, Apple TV, Roku and even Chromecast which acts as a conduit.

They probably didn't, no, although I imagine they'd hoped for a million more.


I can't imagine Sunday would have gone much better, particularly given what they'd have had to put at 8pm.

Friday perhaps yes, although Selfridge would probably do even worse on a Thursday than it did last night.

Agree that February/March might have been better. If ITV still have a lot of drama on then I understand why they put it in January. If ITV are also into light factual mode by then though they'll have wasted Jericho.

Although to be as low as 3.3m suggests there was a problem with the appeal of the show itself or its promotion.

I don't know what's going on, but ITV's scheduling has made three expensive dramas DOA in the last few months, by placing them against Countryflle, Strictly and Death in Paradise.

The only possible explanations are:

1) incompetence
2) internal ITV politics
3) trying to paint a false picture of weakness in order to get the BBC nobbled.

No problem! Good to know. I nearly gave it a go but my viewing schedule is a bit tight at the moment.

I see they haven't scheduled Limitless yet which was supposed to be coming in January. I'm surprised those who demand US TV shows mere hours after their Stateside broadcast aren't up in arms that we have had to wait this long for Limitless. If a FTA channel had picked it up and taken this long we wouldn't have heard the end of it!

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I think the same.

Scheduling didn't help but the trailer and look of it put some people off it. Or at least made them decide to delay their viewing.

Coronation Street star Alison King has confirmed that she is leaving her role as Carla Connor permanently. It was initially thought that she was only taking a break.

Looks like Corrie were trying to fool the viewers into thinking she was coming back to stop bad press about the number of actors leaving.

I didn't watch The Village, but unlike Jericho, it had a few well known names leading the cast (John Simm, Maxine Peake and Juliet Stevenson as opposed to just Jessica Raine) and it was on a Sunday, which is where this show belonged. I don't know why they launched the show in January. Surely, they could've waited until after War and Peace/Call the Midwife concluded.

I disagree that ITV don't have a loyal audience - Downton Abbey is hugely successful and Home Fires did rather well last year as well.

Of course, some of those series were tremendous flops, Moon and Sun was a total disaster, Waterfront Beat, Harry and Growing Pains just about got second series which were sneaked out on Wednesdays, BBC1's worst night, and The House of Eliot was moved to a seemingly more appropriate Sunday slot. Westbeach was quite interesting, it was actually the other soap they considered when they commissioned Eldorado, and was turned into a conventional hour long drama instead. All Creatures and Bergerac were coming to an end so you could only really say that from the BBC1 list that Dalziel and Pascoe was a proper hit.

City Central did run for three series, mind, and that and Sunburn were probably the first examples of BBC1 dramas being made to a formula to try and be deliberately populist. City Central was a blatant attempt to do Casualty but with the police, while Sunburn I know had loads of focus grouping and market research, and the Beeb came up with the concept first and approached a writer to write it, which isn't the way these things usually work.

As for the ITV ones, The Saint was famously a disaster, I think it had been on the shelf for about a year. Sam Saturday and The Vanishing Man were also being burned off, while A Pinch Of Snuff went out at 10.30, partly because it was too violent, partly because it was rubbish. The Governer and London's Burning had both been moved from Sundays and it didn't do either of them any good, the former was axed and the latter's ratings plummeted, as did The Bill's on Saturday.

You don't perhaps get much drama late on Saturdays now but you get more earlier in the evening, in those days you didn't have things like Doctor Who. And although BBC1 had some dramas on Saturday nights, I have more memories of weeks and weeks of bloody awful TV movies at 9pm - http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules...don/1997-10-25


And of course it wasn't very long ago that more or less every drama on BBC1 would go up against a drama on ITV, especially when ITV were doing drama virtually every night of the week. It would have been unimaginable to have a Sunday without both BBC1 and ITV showing drama at the same time - both at 8pm and 9pm.

Not really. It's just one slot. Sometimes a slot is just too tough to launch an expensive new scripted series. You identified some of the reasons it was never going to work, so why did ITV do it?

Back in January 1993, ITV had a new series of Inspector Morse. BBC1 realised that was a battle it could not only not win, but also not even avoid embarrassment, so they kept a new sitcom on the shelf for a few weeks, and showed repeats from the 1970s.

When Heartbeat was a ratings beast for ITV in the mid-1990s, and BBC One had lost Lovejoy, they gave up and showed weaker stuff against Heartbeat including 10-minute films about wildlife photography. Pick your battles, ITV!

I can't see any explanations for the Jericho scheduling other than the three I highlighted earlier.

Score made a good point about no Sunday slots being available this year, but that brings us back to incompetence. Why commission it if you don't have an ideal slot for it? Not only have they thrown money up against a wall by commissioning an expensive project they probably don't need, they've added insult to injury by placing it in what is probably the toughest slot they could have found all year, and lost more money in the process.

Dermot O'Leary was on The One Show tonight promoting The Getaway Car. Personally, I think it has flop written all over it: a hybrid between Total Wipeout and that awful Steve Jones show from 2010, 101 Ways to Leave a Gameshow.

Just watching the trailer for Dickensian before MOTDL - think they need to make it less Christmassy looking. The end screen even has snow and a Christmas tree.

Also, why are the BBC bothering to promote The Voice with excessive trailers and a prime Saturday night slot. I'd be burning it off on Sunday afternoons - they're basically promoting an ITV winter 2017 highlight. If they feel compelled or are contractually obliged to air on Saturdays then why not kill all the promos and let it die?