Watching london spy from last year, and I know it's not related but anyone agreement that ben whitshaw would be a fantastic doctor, young, attractive, great actor and full of charisma, I do love peter capaldi tho.
The Ratings Thread (Part 66)
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Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“All good points. It seems to be a snowball effect of lots of little mistakes building up to create three failures.
As for Death in Paradise, I think the best thing is just to take a hit against it with something cheap if they don't want Benidorm against it. It's only eight hours, and 7pm-9pm is strong enough on Thursdays, anyway.
ITV's bizarre rant about films on BBC One is probably what's made people think they're trying to get the BBC nobbled. It came from nowhere, and undermined any valid points they might have had in their submission. There are more films in the shoebox under my bed than there are on BBC One primetime in the course of a year, and they don't even rate well.”
“All good points. It seems to be a snowball effect of lots of little mistakes building up to create three failures.
As for Death in Paradise, I think the best thing is just to take a hit against it with something cheap if they don't want Benidorm against it. It's only eight hours, and 7pm-9pm is strong enough on Thursdays, anyway.
ITV's bizarre rant about films on BBC One is probably what's made people think they're trying to get the BBC nobbled. It came from nowhere, and undermined any valid points they might have had in their submission. There are more films in the shoebox under my bed than there are on BBC One primetime in the course of a year, and they don't even rate well.”
Yes calling for a total ban on Hollywood films was quite bizarre I agree. Very few films actually make a telling effect on a primetime audience. They are lost in that respect-the fact that ITV simply go through the motions with Potter, Star Wars and Bond whenever they can sums it all up. The BBC only really uses films to any great degree at Christmas. Quite what ITV end game with Charter renewal is with that kind statement is beyond me.
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“Coronation Street star Alison King has confirmed that she is leaving her role as Carla Connor permanently. It was initially thought that she was only taking a break.
Looks like Corrie were trying to fool the viewers into thinking she was coming back to stop bad press about the number of actors leaving.”
“Coronation Street star Alison King has confirmed that she is leaving her role as Carla Connor permanently. It was initially thought that she was only taking a break.
Looks like Corrie were trying to fool the viewers into thinking she was coming back to stop bad press about the number of actors leaving.”
And like with Tina, Stuart Blackburn has all but worn out the character. Before Tina was killed off she was permanately on screen, sticking her nose in everyone's business.
I'm sad she's leaving. She used to be my favourite character, and could still be, but Blackburn and co have all but destroyed her. Such a strong character reduced to a weak one.
But I look forward to seeing her in other dramas, like Katherine Kelly, Suranne Jones etc.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“They used to do drama on Saturdays.”
“They used to do drama on Saturdays.”
Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“ITV used to have some big shows on a Saturday like Dempsey and Makepeace and even C.A.T.S. Eyes.”
“ITV used to have some big shows on a Saturday like Dempsey and Makepeace and even C.A.T.S. Eyes.”
ITV's Saturday night drama series (1980s) :
Enemy at the Door
Heartland
Dick Turpin
Tales of the Unexpected
Charles Endell, Esquire
Hammer House of Horror
Seagull Island
Saturday Night Thriller
Robin of Sherwood
The Gentle Touch
Dempsey and Makepeace
Time for Murder
C.A.T.S. Eyes
John Silver's Return to Treasure Island
Unnatural Causes
Bulman
London's Burning
The One Game
Bust
Saracen
Frederick Forsyth Presents
BBC1 (1980s) :
All Creatures Great and Small
Juliet Bravo
Doctor Who
Nanny
The Consultant
The Mad Death
Bergerac
The Odd Job Man
Driving Ambition
The Tripods
Strike it Rich!
The Collectors
Casualty
One By One
My Family and Other Animals
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“Wow really? I mean firstly the BBC aren't as bitter as posters on here. But mainly because they've paid millions for it and have been criticised as it is for that. "Burning it off" would be an inexcusable waste of licence fee money.”
“Wow really? I mean firstly the BBC aren't as bitter as posters on here. But mainly because they've paid millions for it and have been criticised as it is for that. "Burning it off" would be an inexcusable waste of licence fee money.”
Yes, it would be churlish, spiteful and over-commercial - a great look for the Corporation in the run-up to Charter renewal.
Besides, why damage the channel share unnecessarily?
Christopher Stevens of the Daily Mail on Death In Paradise
A neat summary there. DIP is unashamed hokum. It's warm, sunny, relaxing, feel-good entertainment and I'm not surprised hardly any of its fans abandoned it to watch the miserable-looking drama on the other side.
But, yes, the scheduling of Jericho is so obviously an evil plot by ITV to destabilise the BBC: "Look at this, Culture Secretary. We produce this worthy, high-quality period drama (Debate!) and it's drowned at birth by BBC1 behaving like a commercial channel and screening a blatantly populist piece of shallow nonsense (which is an independent production so it doesn't really have to be on the BBC. Nudge-nudge, wink-wink, know what I mean.....)
We think the BBC drama department should be restricted to adaptations of wordy, impossible-to-read Russian novels.... Oh, wait......."
Quote:
“There are no great claims to be made for Death In Paradise. The plots are repetitive and the police are caricatures. Tell me you think it's rubbish and you can't bear to watch, and I'd understand.
But I enjoy it. Those old-fashioned, fiendish whodunnits are absorbing. Humph and his sidekicks are loveable, and their self-important boss, played by the excellent Don Warrington is a joy.
Death In Paradise is the TV equivalent of a rubbishy book on the beach. And at this time of year, that's welcome.”
“There are no great claims to be made for Death In Paradise. The plots are repetitive and the police are caricatures. Tell me you think it's rubbish and you can't bear to watch, and I'd understand.
But I enjoy it. Those old-fashioned, fiendish whodunnits are absorbing. Humph and his sidekicks are loveable, and their self-important boss, played by the excellent Don Warrington is a joy.
Death In Paradise is the TV equivalent of a rubbishy book on the beach. And at this time of year, that's welcome.”
A neat summary there. DIP is unashamed hokum. It's warm, sunny, relaxing, feel-good entertainment and I'm not surprised hardly any of its fans abandoned it to watch the miserable-looking drama on the other side.
But, yes, the scheduling of Jericho is so obviously an evil plot by ITV to destabilise the BBC: "Look at this, Culture Secretary. We produce this worthy, high-quality period drama (Debate!) and it's drowned at birth by BBC1 behaving like a commercial channel and screening a blatantly populist piece of shallow nonsense (which is an independent production so it doesn't really have to be on the BBC. Nudge-nudge, wink-wink, know what I mean.....)
We think the BBC drama department should be restricted to adaptations of wordy, impossible-to-read Russian novels.... Oh, wait......."
If ITV factual was stronger, then Jericho probably wouldn't have been schedule against Death In Paradise.
The fact is, Klein has had very few, if any hits, in fact I don't think he has had any at all since he joined, and most of his commissions are quality but not mass appeal.
That is where ITV need to focus, getting a good strong commissioing team for factual, LE as well as drama. t the moment only drama is strong, but poor scheduling has damaged the first few expensive commissions.
The fact is, Klein has had very few, if any hits, in fact I don't think he has had any at all since he joined, and most of his commissions are quality but not mass appeal.
That is where ITV need to focus, getting a good strong commissioing team for factual, LE as well as drama. t the moment only drama is strong, but poor scheduling has damaged the first few expensive commissions.
Sad that Jericho has done poorly but people don't trust ITV anymore. Growing up I used to think ITV dramas were so much better than the BBC but haven't been engaged for a long time.
That being said they've started the year really well and iv'e been impressed with their content, that's coming from someone whose given ITV a wide berth for about 5 years now.
That being said they've started the year really well and iv'e been impressed with their content, that's coming from someone whose given ITV a wide berth for about 5 years now.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Christopher Stevens of the Daily Mail on Death In Paradise
A neat summary there. DIP is unashamed hokum. It's warm, sunny, relaxing, feel-good entertainment and I'm not surprised hardly any of its fans abandoned it to watch the miserable-looking drama on the other side.
But, yes, the scheduling of Jericho is so obviously an evil plot by ITV to destabilise the BBC: "Look at this, Culture Secretary. We produce this worthy, high-quality period drama (Debate!) and it's drowned at birth by BBC1 behaving like a commercial channel and screening a blatantly populist piece of shallow nonsense (which is an independent production so it doesn't really have to be on the BBC. Nudge-nudge, wink-wink, know what I mean.....)
We think the BBC drama department should be restricted to adaptations of wordy, impossible-to-read Russian novels.... Oh, wait......."
”
“Christopher Stevens of the Daily Mail on Death In Paradise
A neat summary there. DIP is unashamed hokum. It's warm, sunny, relaxing, feel-good entertainment and I'm not surprised hardly any of its fans abandoned it to watch the miserable-looking drama on the other side.
But, yes, the scheduling of Jericho is so obviously an evil plot by ITV to destabilise the BBC: "Look at this, Culture Secretary. We produce this worthy, high-quality period drama (Debate!) and it's drowned at birth by BBC1 behaving like a commercial channel and screening a blatantly populist piece of shallow nonsense (which is an independent production so it doesn't really have to be on the BBC. Nudge-nudge, wink-wink, know what I mean.....)
We think the BBC drama department should be restricted to adaptations of wordy, impossible-to-read Russian novels.... Oh, wait......."
”
It's a shame GeorgeS is no longer around. His time is now....
Wonder if George and John Whittingdale have ever been seen in the same room together?
Originally Posted by Leeah:
“This lip sync show on channel 5 is dire!!! Bloody took BB off for this pap”
“This lip sync show on channel 5 is dire!!! Bloody took BB off for this pap”
The point of lip syncing is that we see the contestants mouths move so we can spot the syncing. Having the camera swing about all over the place doesn't really make sense.
Originally Posted by Leeah:
“This lip sync show on channel 5 is dire!!! Bloody took BB off for this pap”
“This lip sync show on channel 5 is dire!!! Bloody took BB off for this pap”
Not quite sure what the point of the show is to be honest
Originally Posted by xeo:
“Not quite sure what the point of the show is to be honest”
“Not quite sure what the point of the show is to be honest
”
Oh well, I'm enjoying it
Originally Posted by Leeah:
“This lip sync show on channel 5 is dire!!! Bloody took BB off for this pap”
“This lip sync show on channel 5 is dire!!! Bloody took BB off for this pap”
One show is a bit of light entertainment fun, the other is grotty nasty unpleasant underclass trash.
I know which I'd prefer.
Originally Posted by GordonGordon:
“Sad that Jericho has done poorly but people don't trust ITV anymore. Growing up I used to think ITV dramas were so much better than the BBC but haven't been engaged for a long time.
That being said they've started the year really well and iv'e been impressed with their content, that's coming from someone whose given ITV a wide berth for about 5 years now.”
“Sad that Jericho has done poorly but people don't trust ITV anymore. Growing up I used to think ITV dramas were so much better than the BBC but haven't been engaged for a long time.
That being said they've started the year really well and iv'e been impressed with their content, that's coming from someone whose given ITV a wide berth for about 5 years now.”
There is certainly good stuff on this week and looking ahead plenty this year.
The only good thing about a weaker 14 and 15 is the mass of dramas they've commissioned for this year.
Mixed reaction to Lip Sync Battle on social media. Literally one tweet from someone saying they loved it and right above it someone claiming it was the worst thing they'd ever seen.
Like that all the way down. But lots of people talking about it at least, so the CBB sandwich has done a job.
Like that all the way down. But lots of people talking about it at least, so the CBB sandwich has done a job.
Originally Posted by xeo:
“Not quite sure what the point of the show is to be honest”
“Not quite sure what the point of the show is to be honest
”
My thought exactly. Being forced to watch in SD the pic quality looked awful. Switched over after 10m.
Excellent return for DIP last night. Only down 0.1m y-o-y which can be easily made up in the consolidated numbers. Jericho performed poorly but was never going to do well against DIP.
It does seem more and more often that we hear on here that ITV schedule all their shows wrong - and the answer is this should have aired on a Sunday. But not everything can go on a Sunday night. I'd be interested when someone says a show has been scheduled wrong, where posters think it should have been scheduled. They have to air them at some point and with Silent Witness and DIP dominating three of 5 week nights it does become very difficult. Let's hope Mr Selfridge does OK tonight but could be dented by the football.
Very good for Emmerdale once again. Both episodes up y-o-y. Has some extra soap viewers been added to the BARB panel this month to stop the decline?!
It does seem more and more often that we hear on here that ITV schedule all their shows wrong - and the answer is this should have aired on a Sunday. But not everything can go on a Sunday night. I'd be interested when someone says a show has been scheduled wrong, where posters think it should have been scheduled. They have to air them at some point and with Silent Witness and DIP dominating three of 5 week nights it does become very difficult. Let's hope Mr Selfridge does OK tonight but could be dented by the football.
Very good for Emmerdale once again. Both episodes up y-o-y. Has some extra soap viewers been added to the BARB panel this month to stop the decline?!
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Mixed reaction to Lip Sync Battle on social media. Literally one tweet from someone saying they loved it and right above it someone claiming it was the worst thing they'd ever seen.
Like that all the way down. But lots of people talking about it at least, so the CBB sandwich has done a job.”
“Mixed reaction to Lip Sync Battle on social media. Literally one tweet from someone saying they loved it and right above it someone claiming it was the worst thing they'd ever seen.
Like that all the way down. But lots of people talking about it at least, so the CBB sandwich has done a job.
”
I thought it was terrible. Won't be watching again.
Originally Posted by BillKay:
“My thought exactly. Being forced to watch in SD the pic quality looked awful. Switched over after 10m.”
“My thought exactly. Being forced to watch in SD the pic quality looked awful. Switched over after 10m.”
It's a bit of fun for a Friday night, not to be taken too seriously.
C5 shows never go down well in here. If Leah had said she liked it I'd have had to assume her account had been hacked.
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“I thought it was terrible. Won't be watching again.”
“I thought it was terrible. Won't be watching again.”
I'm miles behind because of the football, followed up by CBB. The bits I've seen look fine.
Entertainment shows will always divide opinion. A lot of people really enjoyed it, so let's see what happens with the ratings.
And an important point to make about Lip Sync Battle is even if it doesn't do a job for C5, it could go to Comedy Central and be successful for them (as the US version has done).
[quote=iaindb;81017120]Christopher Stevens of the Daily Mail on Death In Paradise
A neat summary there. DIP is unashamed hokum. It's warm, sunny, relaxing, feel-good entertainment...
Throw in the ratings and it's exactly why it's the ideal show to shake up the Christmas night line-up on BBC1.
A neat summary there. DIP is unashamed hokum. It's warm, sunny, relaxing, feel-good entertainment...
Throw in the ratings and it's exactly why it's the ideal show to shake up the Christmas night line-up on BBC1.
Very uncomfortable viewing at the CBB eviction show tonight as HMs were forced to decide who leaves. The whole thing was obviously engineered by producers after Winston's comments the day before. Very awkward and not nice to watch. His views are obviously wrong but is this what's classed as entertainment these days?! I've not watched BB since it moved to C5 and I'm now thinking of ditching the whole series after watching this tonight. CBB needs to be moving in a more positive direction than this. I understand it thrives on conflict like this but it's stuff like this that makes me think the whole thing has had its day.
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“All good points. It seems to be a snowball effect of lots of little mistakes building up to create three failures.
As for Death in Paradise, I think the best thing is just to take a hit against it with something cheap if they don't want Benidorm against it. It's only eight hours, and 7pm-9pm is strong enough on Thursdays, anyway.
ITV's bizarre rant about films on BBC One is probably what's made people think they're trying to get the BBC nobbled. It came from nowhere, and undermined any valid points they might have had in their submission. There are more films in the shoebox under my bed than there are on BBC One primetime in the course of a year, and they don't even rate well.”
“All good points. It seems to be a snowball effect of lots of little mistakes building up to create three failures.
As for Death in Paradise, I think the best thing is just to take a hit against it with something cheap if they don't want Benidorm against it. It's only eight hours, and 7pm-9pm is strong enough on Thursdays, anyway.
ITV's bizarre rant about films on BBC One is probably what's made people think they're trying to get the BBC nobbled. It came from nowhere, and undermined any valid points they might have had in their submission. There are more films in the shoebox under my bed than there are on BBC One primetime in the course of a year, and they don't even rate well.”
Lets also remember they did not just say US movies - they said BBC should not be allowed to buy US formats, programmes or movies which according to them should always be offered to commercial channels first. It was and still is in my mind a quite bizarre thing to say despite certain posters defending them as usual.
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“Very uncomfortable viewing at the CBB eviction show tonight as HMs were forced to decide who leaves. The whole thing was obviously engineered by producers after Winston's comments the day before. Very awkward and not nice to watch. His views are obviously wrong but is this what's classed as entertainment these days?! I've not watched BB since it moved to C5 and I'm now thinking of ditching the whole series after watching this tonight. CBB needs to be moving in a more positive direction than this. I understand it thrives on conflict like this but it's stuff like this that makes me think the whole thing has had its day.”
“Very uncomfortable viewing at the CBB eviction show tonight as HMs were forced to decide who leaves. The whole thing was obviously engineered by producers after Winston's comments the day before. Very awkward and not nice to watch. His views are obviously wrong but is this what's classed as entertainment these days?! I've not watched BB since it moved to C5 and I'm now thinking of ditching the whole series after watching this tonight. CBB needs to be moving in a more positive direction than this. I understand it thrives on conflict like this but it's stuff like this that makes me think the whole thing has had its day.”
Such a disgusting, vile man.
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