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So you agree, that XF is easy opposition to SCD? So no more posts on overlapping then?
I wonder why ITV ahead to publish there XF schedule in advance then? ![]() How the mighty have fallen. |
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ITV still trailing BBC One by 10% points on Saturday Night. Not exactly a great achievement is it?
I bet though NW, YBF, Jonathan Ross and TMO will return year after year. |
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I hope ITV are happy with the Ninja Warrior ratings, because they'll be getting similar ratings for Voice next year. It would have dropped on BBC One next year, and it'll drop further on ITV, I'm sure. I'm not a fan of poaching programmes, so I think it's amusing.
No chance. If by some chance, the Tories and their commercial media pals also Hall's BBC Studios plans, the BBC will have safeguards in place for their top shows. ![]() |
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ITV still trailing BBC One by 10% points on Saturday Night. Not exactly a great achievement is it?
I bet though NW, YBF, Jonathan Ross and TMO will return year after year. YBF is cheap and fills 30 min gaps and Jonathan Ross as last night showed can still pull in big name guests he just needs the ratings to go up a little |
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But why wouldnt Ninja Warrior and Take me Out return there not rating horribly.
YBF is cheap and fills 30 min gaps and Jonathan Ross as last night showed can still pull in big name guests he just needs the ratings to go up a little These shows need a big hitter around them. There's too many second rate shows in one block. IMO. |
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Its not a case of" if by some chance", its already happening BBC studios is been spun off as a private company.What will happen will be interesting to see,but the whole point of it is so that BBC studios can make a profit by selling its products to other broadcasters.
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Not at all, I agree that NW and TMO aren't rating horribly, neither badly. But ITV will accept defeat and stay in a distant second place.
These shows need a big hitter around them. There's too many second rate shows in one block. IMO. If I was ITV next year I would go with 6.00pm Ninja Warrior UK 7.00pm The Voice 8.30pm Take me Out 9.50pm Jonathan Ross But I dont know if thats a bit early for NW |
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We'll have to see if the new charter allows all of Hall's plans. ITV have already "had a word" to try and put the kybosh on things.
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Dont think ITV have any objections to the privatisation of BBC Studios,puts them all on same level playing field.
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I think Getaway Car needs to settle around 3.5m to get another series. I think that was roughly what Total Wipeout was getting when its final series aired? So, I don't think there's much room for manoeuvre. Pardon the pun.
Wouldn't be surprised to see the current series split in two with the rest in summer. Presumably they'll want to give Can't Touch This a go before the light nights, and there are loads of lottery shows on the way this year, so they'll need to begin before Voice ends. Perhaps the BBC should have just kept..................Total Wipeout ![]() Part of me wishes the BBC didn't have the Lottery contract. It just seems it almost demands an endless stream of wraparound half hearted quiz formats to flesh it out. It works quite well as a ten minute slot-but I guess there are too many slots to fill in the year to keep it like that. And if they didn't have it presumably we would just get the quiz because its cheap. |
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Getaway Car had a lead-in of over 5m and a lead out of 6.4m. It was a new show that has had some hype this week. Ninja Warrior is mid-series, had a lead-in of less than 3m and a lead-out of less than 4m and overlapped with The Voice. It had it a lot tougher hence why its performance is relatively better than The Getaway Car's. Ninja Warrior obviously isn't a big smash hit but it is doing perfectly well. Getaway Car had a nice sandwich and yet may fall from here. It might not of course but it doesn't look as promising as Ninja Warrior. If Getaway Car got that in April in a much more average schedule it'd be a decent start. As things are it did OK but nothing more. Also Ninja Warrior got double what ITV got last year, a bit more than "slightly better".
I get that you are disappointed that BBC1 didn't do as well as you thought it would last night but nobody as far as I can see things Ninja Warrior is the second coming, it just got a pretty good rating. Just because NW bettered the programme that was on last year is neither here nor there because I was talking their primetime share which would have been up a little hence 'slightly better'. BBC won primetime comfortably so I dont think they will be disappointed. |
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Crozier was moaning within 24 hours.
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It is now isn't it? Wasn't so much when XF was thrashing Strictly back in 2010 though.
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To be honest, i do not understand this answer at all.
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Its not a case of" if by some chance", its already happening BBC studios is been spun off as a private company.What will happen will be interesting to see,but the whole point of it is so that BBC studios can make a profit by selling its products to other broadcasters.
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So Jekyll and Hyde, Beowulf, Harry Price, Sound of Music Live and Peter & Wendy wasn't risk taking? Most of it flopped, but it was better than what BBC One had on.
ITV might have too many hours of soap, but BBC One also have EastEnders, Casualty, Holby City and Dickensian on at the moment, so not much better. Obviously it's not a risk that has paid off in ratings terms but it was a risk nonetheless to commission it in the way that the BBC did with a 20 episode run. |
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I think ITV are going to through the cheque book at The Voice to get some really good coaches. The ones I suggested might not happen but I think there will be a big name or two in the line up.
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You are always going on about me and BBC whenever you get the chance. Now I do watch more BBC than any other channel but FYI I do not defend them for no reason. I react when I think some daft points are being made and thats why I said what I did. The different reaction to 2 programmes with similar ratings justified that.
Just because NW bettered the programme that was on last year is neither here nor there because I was talking their primetime share which would have been up a little hence 'slightly better'. BBC won primetime comfortably so I dont think they will be disappointed. It isn't as simple as winning primetime or not. The world and his dog could have told you BBC1 would win primetime as soon as we saw the schedules, but it's the actual numbers for each show that tell more of a story and I would suggest they might have liked a little more for one or two shows last night. That's all. |
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So you agree, that XF is easy opposition to SCD? So no more posts on overlapping then?
I wonder why ITV ahead to publish there XF schedule in advance then? SCD faces for most of the time The Chase, and last year uber flop Jekyll l& Hyde. The X Factor is easier opposition, but its like when BGT faced TVUK and in its live shows crushed it. |
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Interesting night tonight. Call The Midwife is back which should boost the shows around it, but Endeavour is tougher competition than All Star Family Fortunes so I can't see it making its usual 9m. Meanwhile will Beowulf take the big drop we were expecting last week? Predictions:
Countryfile - 7.6m Still Open All Hours - 7.5m Call The Midwife - 8.4m War & Peace - 5.7m Beowulf - 1.9m Endeavour - 4.2m Including +1 for ITV. |
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Focus on talent ? Maybe in the past but XF has become self indulgent and bizarrely all about the judges in recent years hence the audience has collapsed. No talent there in the last series.
Singing shows are stale hence ITV will not be able to polish a turd. BGT and SCD will continue to thrive as they are entertaining. Its amazing how people on here make sweepng statements like this in regard to TXF 'poor singers' etc pops up every year, and yet some of the singers on TXF are better than big acts that are out in the industry already. |
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I agree with you but next year they have The Voice and fingers crossed it will be rating about 6/7 million.
If I was ITV next year I would go with 6.00pm Ninja Warrior UK 7.00pm The Voice 8.30pm Take me Out 9.50pm Jonathan Ross But I dont know if thats a bit early for NW |
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Interesting night tonight. Call The Midwife is back which should boost the shows around it, but Endeavour is tougher competition than All Star Family Fortunes so I can't see it making its usual 9m. Meanwhile will Beowulf take the big drop we were expecting last week? Predictions:
Countryfile - 7.6m Still Open All Hours - 7.5m Call The Midwife - 8.4m War & Peace - 5.7m Beowulf - 1.9m Endeavour - 4.2m Including +1 for ITV. Previous CTM series openers (overnights): 2015 - 8.31m (32.8%) 2014 - 9.61m (36.1%) 2013 - 9.32m (32.3%) 2012 - 7.95m (27.5%) |
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Interesting night tonight. Call The Midwife is back which should boost the shows around it, but Endeavour is tougher competition than All Star Family Fortunes so I can't see it making its usual 9m. Meanwhile will Beowulf take the big drop we were expecting last week? Predictions:
Countryfile - 7.6m Still Open All Hours - 7.5m Call The Midwife - 8.4m War & Peace - 5.7m Beowulf - 1.9m Endeavour - 4.2m Including +1 for ITV. I think CTM will be lower han that based on how a weaker Foyle's War got 4.1m inc+1. Whereas CTM got 8.3m. I think Endeavour will be around 4.6m inc+1 and Call The Midwife 8m-8.2m |
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BGT faced TVUK and in its live shows crushed it.
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No chance. If by some chance, the Tories and their commercial media pals also Hall's BBC Studios plans, the BBC will have safeguards in place for their top shows. 

