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The Ratings Thread (Part 66)
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17-01-2016
Thanks for the list rzt.

Surprised that the average for the year as a whole was that close between the two networks. I thought BBC1 would be comfortably ahead. They definitely had more standouts though.

A lot of returning property on ITV down year on year. They'll be hoping to see less of that in 2016. Painfully low numbers for those last few Jekyll & Hyde episodes. On the other hand a nice note for Downton to bow out on.

Quite sad really that Peter & Wendy rated so low that finding any kind of rating for it is basically impossible (I had a look as well, I couldn't find anything). It didn't deserve that.
Cestrian18
17-01-2016
I'm going to add my forpenneth in on TVUK, I reckon that must be one of the worst ever ratings for it, not in terms of numbers but in terms of where it could go from here- A heavy drop yoy on a very cold winter Saturday with a decent enough lead in and virtually no opposition apart from 15min of Ninja warrior- No way should it be that low, and I think there''s a couple of alarm bells that should be ringing over at ITV as they'll have to air 5 series including the Kids spin off, plus companion shows (which didn't work when the beeb tried it) to see off their contract- I just don't think it had the legs before we saw these figures, now I think it could be a total disaster for them (The initial revamp should prove interesting especially as we've not seen a high profile show jump ship in a long time) Especially as it'll be following XF on the same channel it'll definitely be seen as Talent show overkill- BBC won't really give two hoots how this series does but they really need to line something else up for Q1 Saturday''s as I really think that TV ITV could tank badly
centauri72
17-01-2016
Originally Posted by Cestrian18:
“I'm going to add my forpenneth in on TVUK, I reckon that must be one of the worst ever ratings for it, not in terms of numbers but in terms of where it could go from here- A heavy drop yoy on a very cold winter Saturday with a decent enough lead in and virtually no opposition apart from 15min of Ninja warrior- No way should it be that low, and I think there''s a couple of alarm bells that should be ringing over at ITV as they'll have to air 5 series including the Kids spin off, plus companion shows (which didn't work when the beeb tried it) to see off their contract- I just don't think it had the legs before we saw these figures, now I think it could be a total disaster for them (The initial revamp should prove interesting especially as we've not seen a high profile show jump ship in a long time) Especially as it'll be following XF on the same channel it'll definitely be seen as Talent show overkill- BBC won't really give two hoots how this series does but they really need to line something else up for Q1 Saturday''s as I really think that TV ITV could tank badly”

Absolutely. It looks possible that BBC1 will have DW in Q1 2017. A weaker TV on ITV could help DW's overnights perk up a bit if they were on at the same time, though they might choose to run DW at 6 pm to avoid a clash entirely. Both DW and TV skew younger than most shows on the main channels.
Joe40
17-01-2016
Yay! A Song For Europe returns, so if we do rubbish at Eurovision this year, at least we chose it.
BBC Four, 7.30pm (for 90 minutes), Friday 26th February

(Edit: The other news is that with BBC Three only being online soon, BBC Four gets the Eurovision semis)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/eurovision
stv viewer
17-01-2016
Originally Posted by davies88:
“I really hope Stephen Mulhern, Robbie Williams and Michael Buble make an appearance on SNT this year.

Ant and Dec ain't rolled out Jonathan Wilkes for a while have they?”

I dont think Buble or Robbie williams were on SNT last year. They were on in 2014
stv viewer
17-01-2016
Originally Posted by Joe40:
“Yay! A Song For Europe returns, so if we do rubbish at Eurovision this year, at least we chose it.
BBC Four, 7.30pm (for 90 minutes), Friday 26th February

(Edit: The other news is that with BBC Three only being online soon, BBC Four gets the Eurovision semis)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/eurovision”

I take it this is on BBC 4 as BBC 3 will be closed by this point
Roscoe Barnes
17-01-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“Numbers from Hassaan:

The Getaway Car: 4.14m (20.3%)
The Voice UK: 6.37m (29.5%)

Ninja Warrior UK: 4.28m (20.7%)
Take Me Out: 3.68m (16.9%)

Figures include +1 & are tapechecked.”

Yikes! That's a big year-on-year fall for The Voice by over 2m. The wheels are off! GC did reasonably well. NW and TMO are solid. Last year SITE was posting about 2m viewers less than NW. Have these 2m viewers jumped ship to ITV?

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Other ratings: Saturday 16th January


Channel 4 (exc. +1)
21:00 Fast and Furious 6: 1.29m (7.2%)

Channel 5 (exc. +1)
22:30 Celebrity Big Brother: 1.24m (8.2%)”

I thought Fast 6 would have done better than that. CBB did well in a late and tough slot.

But wait a minute. If those numbers exclude +1 then how does the below happen? No one watched on +1?

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Full roundup from Hassaan.

Saturday 16th January 2015 - Overnights

Channel 4 (inc +1)
21:00 - FILM: Fast & Furious 6: 1.29m (7.2%)

Channel 5 (inc +1)
22:30 - Celebrity Big Brother: 1.24m (8.2%)
”

Bizarre has these normally do include +1 from Hassaan.
Joe40
17-01-2016
With Ronnie winning the snooker hours early (10 frames to 1), BBC2 are showing the documentary Alex Higgins: The People's Champion.
So the lack of live snooker will give fans a chance to watch online The Rack Pack, what looks a 'very interesting' film about the snooker characters of the 1980's, an iplayer exclusive from 9pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03bv0t5
wizzywick
17-01-2016
Series 5 of Call the Midwife, and it just doesn't weaken. A stunning, heart wrenching episode. It deserves great ratings.
A.D.P
17-01-2016
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Series 5 of Call the Midwife, and it just doesn't weaken. A stunning, heart wrenching episode. It deserves great ratings.”

Agree.
scotch
17-01-2016
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Series 5 of Call the Midwife, and it just doesn't weaken. A stunning, heart wrenching episode. It deserves great ratings.”

I agree. Very moving but so well handled.
Joe40
17-01-2016
The Rack Pack snooker movie finally decided to work on iplayer at 9.14pm.
If this is the future, it's not good enough. iplayer exclusives have worked before because you know when it'll be on a main channel (Peter Kay's Car Share).
Not that some of the target audience (not youngsters) would know how to find it anyway, so it's a shame all round for something I suspect will be a great watch.
Aurora13
17-01-2016
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Series 5 of Call the Midwife, and it just doesn't weaken. A stunning, heart wrenching episode. It deserves great ratings.”

Excellently done. On another note I'm giving up on War and Peace.
stv viewer
17-01-2016
Originally Posted by Aurora13:
“Excellently done. On another note I'm giving up on War and Peace.”

First time in years watching Call the midwife and it was very good and covered the topic very well.

Im very close to giving up on war and Peace myself
wizzywick
17-01-2016
Originally Posted by Aurora13:
“Excellently done. On another note I'm giving up on War and Peace.”

War and Peace is spectacular. But, I kind of agree. It's good TV but very heavy going. I'm doing a Dickensian with it. I'm recording it but watching it in half hour instalments over the week.
northlad
17-01-2016
Originally Posted by stv viewer:
“First time in years watching Call the midwife and it was very good and covered the topic very well.

Im very close to giving up on war and Peace myself”

Same,its very influenced by Downton Abbey.
yorkie100
17-01-2016
Originally Posted by northlad:
“Same,its very influenced by Downton Abbey.”

Yes he was good that Tolstoy stealing all Julian Fellowes original ideas !!!!
stv viewer
17-01-2016
Originally Posted by northlad:
“Same,its very influenced by Downton Abbey.”

I preferred Downton Abbey to War and Peace. But I am going to give War and peace one more week
rzt
17-01-2016
Here are the BARB Annual shares for 2015:

BBC
BBC1: 21.9% (2014: 21.7%), BBC2: 5.7% (6.0%), BBC3: 1.2% (1.4%), BBC4: 0.9% (0.9%), BBC News: 1.1% (1.0%), BBC RB: 0.1% (0.2%), BBC Parliament: 0.04% (0.01%), CBBC: 0.5% (0.5%), CBeebies: 1.4% (1.3%)
--> Total: 32.7% (2014: 33.1%)

ITV
ITV(1): 14.9% (15.6%), ITV2: 2.2% (2.4%), ITV3: 2.2% (2.4%), ITV4: 1.0% (1.2%), CITV: 0.3% (0.3%), ITVBe: 0.5% (0.1%), ITV Encore: 0.1% (0.1%)
--> Total: 21.2% (2014: 22.0%)

Channel 4
C4: 5.6% (5.5%), E4: 1.9% (2.0%), Film4: 1.4% (1.5%), More4: 1.2% (1.2%), 4Music: 0.3% (0.3%), 4Seven: 0.3% (0.3%)
--> Total: 10.7% (2014: 10.8%)

Channel 5
C5: 4.2% (4.4%), 5*: 0.5% (0.5%), 5USA: 1.0% (1.0%), C5+24: 0.1% (0.1%), Spike: 0.2% (n/a)
--> Total: 6.0% (2014: 6.0%)

In terms of terrestrial channels, BBC1 (+1.1%) and C4 (+1.1%) were up year on year. BBC2, ITV1, C5 (all -4.5%) fell vs. 2014. It was BBC1's best annual share since 2007 (22.0%).

In terms of overall network share, Channel 5 was the only network flat year-on-year between 2014 and 2015. BBC (-1%), Channel 4 (-1%) and ITV (-4%) dipped vs. the previous year.
stv viewer
17-01-2016
I take it with BBC 4 having the Eurovision show to decide our entry that the Eurovision Semi finals will be on BBC 4
sw2963
17-01-2016
It appears EE's
Spoiler
Grant is returning for Peggy's death scenes.
I expect another boost - maybe this will be Good Friday episode
derek500
17-01-2016
Originally Posted by Joe40:
“The Rack Pack snooker movie finally decided to work on iplayer at 9.14pm.
If this is the future, it's not good enough. iplayer exclusives have worked before because you know when it'll be on a main channel (Peter Kay's Car Share).
Not that some of the target audience (not youngsters) would know how to find it anyway, so it's a shame all round for something I suspect will be a great watch.”

Do the Frank Skinner On Demand and Matt Berry shorts ever get shown on linear channels?
H of De Vil
17-01-2016
Call The Midwife and Endeavour were both great tonight. Hope they both do well.
sn_22
17-01-2016
Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“No news on Class which was commissioned for BBC Three. With the channel now closing, could this come along on BBC One in the spring, or held back until the Autumn ?”

They knew BBC Three was going online when they commissioned it, so I'd be surprised if Class didn't premiere there first. If anything, it's exactly the kind of high profile project they'll want to be driving attention & traffic around the new online offering.

That said, it obviously will get a TV run as well - most likely on BBC One. Haven't heard much about the show yet, though, so not sure when to expect it or what kind of slot might suit it.

Originally Posted by rzt:
“Drama Consolidated Averages for 2015
In brackets is the % rise or fall compared to the averages for their previous series. For new shows, the % is the rise or fall between the first and last episodes of the series. I couldn't get all of the consolidated ratings because some episodes rated too low to chart on BARB or Broadcast magazine so the numbers in red are fairly close guesstimates. As most of its episodes are airing this year, Dickensian will be part of the 2016 averages.

BBC One Drama in 2015 averaged 5.94m over about 170-175 hours. ITV Drama in 2015 averaged 5.69m (inc +1: 6.09m) over about 117 hours.”

A picture of stability for BBC One. I think their drama has been putting other genres to shame for a few years now. It's not that they've had any particularly knockout years - but every time round they manage their big hitters well, find another couple of returnable series to refresh things (Doctor Foster and Poldark this year) and manage a few high profile one offs too (Esio Trot, And Then There Were None).

Originally Posted by rzt:
“In terms of terrestrial channels, BBC1 (+1.1%) and C4 (+1.1%) were up year on year. BBC2, ITV1, C5 (all -4.5%) fell vs. 2014. It was BBC1's best annual share since 2007 (22.0%).

In terms of overall network share, Channel 5 was the only network flat year-on-year between 2014 and 2015. BBC (-1%), Channel 4 (-1%) and ITV (-4%) dipped vs. the previous year.”

For once, the figures actually seem to back up the anecdotal impressions of the year - a good 2015 for BBC One and C4, less so for the other terrestrials. It wasn't even a big sporting summer for the BBC, so that's doubly remarkable. I wonder what areas of the schedule made the biggest gains.

What strikes me looking at the figures as a whole is how the momentum for the digital channels seems to have stalled. BBC Three has been dwindling since the move was announced, ITV's new launches only served to cannibalise their existing portfolios and there's been no growth for C4 or C5's digitals either. Perhaps it suggests that the channels have maxed out on what can be achieved with repeats - they'll need to invest if they want them to grow further.
H of De Vil
17-01-2016
ITV2 has been pretty poor this year, with some pretty bad scheduling so its no wonder they've had such a poor year. No new hits at all, with many existing down heavily. Much like the main channel.

But ITV2 looks to have a better 2016 with the Seth McFarlane comedies coming up. Should give a good launch pad for new shows.
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