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Old 18-01-2016, 20:11
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When Ant And Dec Met The Prince: 40 Year (Mon): 7.69m (28.0%) +1.9m
Endeavour (Sun): 6.73m (23.3%) +1.93m
Midsomer Murders (Wed): 6.63m (24.7%) +1.23m
Birds Of A Feather (Thu): 5.34m (20.2%) +1.29m
Mr Selfridge (Fri): 5.26m (19.9%) +1.46m
Jericho (Thu): 4.93m (19.0%) +1.63m
The Martin Lewis Money Show (Fri): 4.57m (20.2%) +

All include HD and +1

Thanks Roscoe

That is Klein's biggest factual hit since he started. One rating over 7m, the rest below 4m.

Birds did well, should mean last week ep being closer to 6m.

Jericho and Mr Selfridge no adding much.
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Old 18-01-2016, 20:16
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Here are some more consolidated numbers for w/e 10th January 2016:

Coronation Street (Mon): 9.14m (37.9%)
Emmerdale (Mon): 7.66m (33.4%)
When Ant And Dec Met The Prince: 40 Year (Mon): 7.69m (28.0%)
Endeavour (Sun): 6.73m (23.3%)
Midsomer Murders (Wed): 6.63m (24.7%)
Birds Of A Feather (Thu): 5.34m (20.2%)
Mr Selfridge (Fri): 5.26m (19.9%)
Jericho (Thu): 4.93m (19.0%)
The Martin Lewis Money Show (Fri): 4.57m (20.2%)

All include HD and +1

I don’t have the excluding +1 numbers unfortunately. But quite a few of the +1 numbers made the ITV +1 Top 10 chart on BARB so just a matter of some simple subtraction.

That's a healthy set of numbers. Glad to see ITV finally having some success.
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Old 18-01-2016, 20:24
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I agree with the posters above ITV needs something to air on Sundays week in week out like the BBC does with Countryfile so viewers know it is always going to be there. At the moment the only shows I can see being like that to viewers is Emmerdale and Corrie.

ITV could set the night up with the two soaps at 6-7 or 7-8 then followed by a drama or X Factor depending on time of year
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Old 18-01-2016, 20:27
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When Ant And Dec Met The Prince: 40 Year (Mon): 7.69m (28.0%) +1.9m
Endeavour (Sun): 6.73m (23.3%) +1.93m
Midsomer Murders (Wed): 6.63m (24.7%) +1.23m
Birds Of A Feather (Thu): 5.34m (20.2%) +1.14m
Mr Selfridge (Fri): 5.26m (19.9%) +1.46m
Jericho (Thu): 4.93m (19.0%) +1.63m
The Martin Lewis Money Show (Fri): 4.57m (20.2%) +

All include HD and +1

Thanks Roscoe

That is Klein's biggest factual hit since he started. One rating over 7m, the rest below 4m.

Birds did well, should mean last week ep being closer to 6m.

Jericho and Mr Selfridge no adding much.
There not bad numbers at all.

Nice to see Jericho and Mr S getting a small increase
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Old 18-01-2016, 20:41
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Delighted inept Peter Fincham finally leaving ITV after 8 long years.

Hopefully Lygo will be bold enough to think about restructuring the schedule.
Like David Liddiment did when he took a risk and axed News at Ten. That worked well.

Or when someone decided to axe GMTV?

Or even when someone decided to move soaps from Sunday's?

Risks only work when there isn't a comfortable alternative waiting in the wings, which is what people always overlook when planning mock schedules. It's often best to play it safe. Viewers say they want new things, but then don't watch them and stick to the old things.

On a separate note, people need to stop thinking ITV can beat Countryfile on a Sunday. If you listed every programme which has aired at 7pm and lost out to Countryfile, you'd be listing pretty much every genre from the lightest of filler, to the most serious factual. Entertainment, variety, game shows, quiz shows, factual, personality lead factual etc etc. People watch it like they do The One Show, just something nice to have on in the background.
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Old 18-01-2016, 20:47
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Regarding Casualty - it is not would be still a hit if only on for 3 months - it is still a hit year round with pretty consistent figures that tend to win the slot.

You cannot really downgrade a continuous drama to a short run series without creating the viewer perception that the series is in trouble and being wound down, so it would be counter productive and unnecessary.

ITV could have still had The Bill once a week somewhere pulling in similar figures. It is one of many mistakes they have made in recent years. Cannot see the BBC making the same error. There is a place for these successful continuing dramas that are in between yearly short run series and several episodes a week soaps. ITV have dropped all of theirs and shows like Heartbeat would still be getting better figures than anything in that slot if they had not chased a new dawn.

Sometimes you need a steady reliable audience pleaser to build a schedule around. Casualty anchors Saturday for the BBC like Heartbeat used to for ITV on Sunday.

I bet they realise now they made a mistake as once you axe or cut a programme bringing it back after seeing your error will not bring back the ratings and stability it once conveyed.

They might try Cold Feet as an anchor at 8 pm Sunday, I guess. But I suspect it will not get more than 4 - 5 million if they do. That will likely be acceptable if so given the alternatives, of course.
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Old 18-01-2016, 20:48
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2.61m consolidated for EP1 of Lip Sync Battle UK.

This show could have done a job for ITV or C4. But it's great that Five have it, obviously. They need it more.
I can't imagine it getting a large enough rating to be classed as a success on ITV. Plus it's be much more in the public eye and declared a new low etc on there.

Channel 4 probably.
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Old 18-01-2016, 20:56
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Regarding Casualty - it is not would be still a hit if only on for 3 months - it is still a hit year round with pretty consistent figures that tend to win the slot.

You cannot really downgrade a continuous drama to a short run series without creating the viewer perception that the series is in trouble and being wound down, so it would be counter productive and unnecessary.

ITV could have still had The Bill once a week somewhere pulling in similar figures. It is one of many mistakes they have made in recent years. Cannot see the BBC making the same error. There is a place for these successful continuing dramas that are in between yearly short run series and several episodes a week soaps. ITV have dropped all of theirs and shows like Heartbeat would still be getting better figures than anything in that slot if they had not chased a new dawn.

Sometimes you need a steady reliable audience pleaser to build a schedule around. Casualty anchors Saturday for the BBC like Heartbeat used to for ITV on Sunday.

I bet they realise now they made a mistake as once you axe or cut a programme bringing it back after seeing your error will not bring back the ratings and stability it once conveyed.

They might try Cold Feet as an anchor at 8 pm Sunday, I guess. But I suspect it will not get more than 4 - 5 million if they do. That will likely be acceptable if so given the alternatives, of course.
That is why ITV need something warm and cosy like The Darling Buds of May. Viewers would be wiilling to watch a drama like this on Sunday because its nice to watch something like this before the working week starts.

The ideal Sunday schedule for ITV would be:

6.30pm The Chase
7.30pm Birds of a Feather (or similar accessable gentle comedy)
8pm New drama in the form of The Darling Buds
9pm New drama.

Wild At Heart was perfect. I loved this drama and was so dissapointed that it was axed. And yet again they axed it with no replacement. Foolish.

The new series of Cold Feet is going to have a large sample audience, (I expect over 8m consolidated), but I suspect it'll be at 9pm on Monday.
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Old 18-01-2016, 21:00
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I thought Corrie was really good tonight. Best it's been in ages! Hopefully it can finally get back on track this year.
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Old 18-01-2016, 21:11
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I thought Corrie was really good tonight. Best it's been in ages! Hopefully it can finally get back on track this year.
It's still got many flaws, but the last part of the second episode was gripping.
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Old 18-01-2016, 21:15
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Roscoe do you have the consolidated second episode of Ninja Warrior UK?

I know the 1st got 4.44m.

Thanks
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Old 18-01-2016, 21:18
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Roscoe do you have the consolidated second episode of Ninja Warrior UK?

I know the 1st got 4.44m.

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I don't have that this week unfortunately.
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Old 18-01-2016, 21:38
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I agree with the posters above ITV needs something to air on Sundays week in week out like the BBC does with Countryfile so viewers know it is always going to be there. At the moment the only shows I can see being like that to viewers is Emmerdale and Corrie.

ITV could set the night up with the two soaps at 6-7 or 7-8 then followed by a drama or X Factor depending on time of year
You still need good programmes from 8-10pm. One hour won't win Sunday when viewers still turn afterwards for Call The Midwife. People are talking like BBC1 always win Sunday night. They don't in the Autumn, they didn't win Winter until Call The Midwife and Sherlock went there and even then it's only a few weeks.

If ITV want to be seen as more than just a soap and talent show network they need to find other shows to plug the gaps. I hate soaps on Sunday anyway. The weekend should be free from them.
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Old 18-01-2016, 21:45
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Roscoe do you have the two Dickensian officials from the 6th and 7th of January? Thanks And thanks for the extra numbers you provided!
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Old 18-01-2016, 21:46
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I thought Corrie was really good tonight. Best it's been in ages! Hopefully it can finally get back on track this year.
Indeed, finally lots going on for once.

Even the comedy bit with the council workmen was funny due to Sally's use of the old line from Dad's Army.

And Phelan is back.
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Old 18-01-2016, 21:47
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Viewers manage to find it on weekdays where they are often over 20% shares at 6pm. But Sunday it seems viewers just regard BBC1 as the channel to go too whatever new programming ITV are showing in the earlier evening. his is mostly because its usually clip shows (Planet's Got Talent) or crud.

Thank goodness Fincham has gone, now hopefully he can build Sunday back up from BBC1's dominance.
Also because the weeknight evening bulletins on BBC1 and ITV don't clash. Even then more people watcv BBC1 national and regional bulletins over the ITV ones. That wasn't always the case.

People will try new programmes on ITV but if they look poor they won't bother, like with all channels.

People watch ITV. They tried Home Fires and Safe House last year, they tried Broadchurch and the Birds Of A Feather revival in 2013, they tried Downton Abbey in 2010.
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Old 18-01-2016, 21:49
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Here are some more consolidated numbers for w/e 10th January 2016:

Coronation Street (Mon): 9.14m (37.9%)
Emmerdale (Mon): 7.66m (33.4%)
When Ant And Dec Met The Prince: 40 Year (Mon): 7.69m (28.0%)
Endeavour (Sun): 6.73m (23.3%)
Midsomer Murders (Wed): 6.63m (24.7%)
Birds Of A Feather (Thu): 5.34m (20.2%)
Mr Selfridge (Fri): 5.26m (19.9%)
Jericho (Thu): 4.93m (19.0%)
The Martin Lewis Money Show (Fri): 4.57m (20.2%)

All include HD and +1

I don’t have the excluding +1 numbers unfortunately. But quite a few of the +1 numbers made the ITV +1 Top 10 chart on BARB so just a matter of some simple subtraction.

Thanks Roscoe. I have one more rating to add.

Beowulf (03/01) - 3.35m

Do you know how episode 2 of Beowulf did Roscoe?
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Old 18-01-2016, 22:03
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Roscoe do you have the two Dickensian officials from the 6th and 7th of January? Thanks And thanks for the extra numbers you provided!
Thanks Roscoe. I have one more rating to add.

Beowulf (03/01) - 3.35m

Do you know how episode 2 of Beowulf did Roscoe?
Sorry guys I don't. I've posted all that I have in terms of extras.
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Old 18-01-2016, 22:12
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http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...litical-editor

Nothing in ITV's press release about "duffing up" anyone.
It was Peston himself in an interview with the Guardian.

What with the silly remarks made by Tom Bradby last week it appears someone at ITV has foolishly attempted to stir up some controversy or sensationalism. Whilst that sort of thing might appeal to soap viewers its hardly likely to bring viewers to a news programme.
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Old 18-01-2016, 22:13
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A few multichannel ratings of note from today's BARB update:

Sky Movies Premiere
FILM: GET HARD (2015) (FRI 1348) 728,000
Ridiculously big rating for a bang average comedy (albeit starring Will Ferrell).

Me thinks I'm not the only person who takes Sky Movies for 1 month around Christmas time, watches all the new stuff I'm interested in and then cancels. People making the most of their subscriptions until they run out would be my guess.

And...

Spike
FROM DUSK TILL DAWN (MON 2101) 272,000
FROM DUSK TILL DAWN (MON 2200) 267,000
A solid debut from Spike's latest US import, with strong retention into the second episode.

It becomes the channel's most watched programme to date, and is up 31% on The Transporter's debut last July.
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Old 18-01-2016, 22:21
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Viewers manage to find it on weekdays where they are often over 20% shares at 6pm. But Sunday it seems viewers just regard BBC1 as the channel to go too whatever new programming ITV are showing in the earlier evening. his is mostly because its usually clip shows (Planet's Got Talent) or crud.

Thank goodness Fincham has gone, now hopefully he can build Sunday back up from BBC1's dominance.
H, ITV owned Sunday until 2012. They did so without soaps. Infact, they basically owned Autumn Sundays right up until 2013 which was when SCD started to level with XF. ITV's Autumn line up was impossible for BBC1 - mainly due to BBC1's stupidity of axing the Sunday SCD results show in 2009. So, from 2010 ITV put out XF followed by Downton and then I'm a Celebrity. This proves that BBC1's default audience is only default when ITV show programmes viewers who watch telly on Sundays aren't interested in.

Apart from Countryfile, once CtM ends, it will be pretty much a level playing field again. Remember The White Queen? Remember Jonathan Strange? They didn't exactly set BBC1's default audience alight did they?
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Old 18-01-2016, 22:32
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H, ITV owned Sunday until 2012. They did so without soaps. Infact, they basically owned Autumn Sundays right up until 2013 which was when SCD started to level with XF. ITV's Autumn line up was impossible for BBC1 - mainly due to BBC1's stupidity of axing the Sunday SCD results show in 2009. So, from 2010 ITV put out XF followed by Downton and then I'm a Celebrity. This proves that BBC1's default audience is only default when ITV show programmes viewers who watch telly on Sundays aren't interested in.

Apart from Countryfile, once CtM ends, it will be pretty much a level playing field again. Remember The White Queen? Remember Jonathan Strange? They didn't exactly set BBC1's default audience alight did they?
Exactly!

Does nobody understand that ITV owned Sundays without soaps for years pre nineties and in Autumn 2010. ITV owned Winter Sundays for years. If you told in 2011 that ITV's Winter Sunday domination would end due to a drama about Midwives I would have said that was unlikely..

There is so much bollocks spouted around here about BBC1's default audience. Where are they for Dickensian? Where were they for The White Queen?
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Old 18-01-2016, 22:36
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That is why ITV need something warm and cosy like The Darling Buds of May. Viewers would be wiilling to watch a drama like this on Sunday because its nice to watch something like this before the working week starts.

The ideal Sunday schedule for ITV would be:

6.30pm The Chase
7.30pm Birds of a Feather (or similar accessable gentle comedy)
8pm New drama in the form of The Darling Buds
9pm New drama.
I'd hardly call Birds a "gentle comedy". And creating new hit sitcoms is considerably easier said than done.

Look at the current crop of hits - SOAH, Birds, Benidorm, Mrs Brown's Boys - all have an old-fashioned quality to them - just like Vicious which bombed and only got a second series because of the talent involved.

Benidorm, of course, has no studio audience, which makes it a bit less old-fashioned in that sense, but it does have camp homosexuals, foreigners who mispronounce their English and dumbo youths - the sort of characters that use to live in 1970s ITV-Sitcoml-land, albeit that the gay characters in Benidorm have a bit more depth than their 70s counterparts.


Regarding BBC1 winning Sundays by chasing the older audience - I refuse to believe that Endeavour and especially Vera don't skew old.

And have we all noticed that BBC1 have announced that the second series of Poldark won't be screened until the Autumn? BBC1 out to stop ITV dominated the Autumn Sunday 9pm slot now that Downton has finished. I wonder if it will be scheduled to run across IAC's Sunday night episodes.
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Old 18-01-2016, 22:49
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How come DS haven't done any ratings round-ups since last Thursday?
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Old 18-01-2016, 22:54
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Tonight's episode of Gotham is effing fantastic. Such a shame it can't get double what it currently gets.
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