With less live shows there will probably be several double evictions this series.

I don't know, some Halloween-ers still going around in my area. Be surprised if it was much above 6m.

It will be COMFORTABLY above 6m.

Really?

You'd assume so with more viewers in Sunday and Trick or Treaters and most Halloween parties out of the way.

Watching the group song at the start I can fully understand why they use auto tuning.

Well thats a first I think, BBC advertising its radio on ITV during X factor,thats going to cost a few hundreds of thousand of licence fee money in ITVs pockets.

It'd have to be up week-on-week to manage that, which would be quite the story considering the big drop it took yesterday. But I guess you can never say never.

They're mad up north, I tell ya.

Then Cowell completely spoils the 'tension' during the show's climax by saying "one singer was better" in a sing-off between a singer and a group. Deserves to lose even more viewers, what a shambles.

So what if Olly said he liked the new 1D song. And he didn't say that. He said singer or artist. Shambles is a touch over dramatic.

I suppose the ultimate humiliation would be TXF getting beaten by Antiques Roadshow. Can't see it happening, but then I didn't see last night's going under 6m.

Posters on this thread just get funnier and funnier.

Though to be fair 'or artist' was added as a very obvious afterthought. He changed his mind on who he was sending home.

That was a very flat results show though. The audience sounded half asleep and Olly especially was tripping over the autocue. I enjoyed yesterday's show but tonight didn't sit right with me.

I have to admit I was watching it tonight thinking that Antiques Roadshow might beat it.

The results format has been the same for years now. It needs an overhaul but with all the changes this year failing they probably didn't want to take that risk. It works fine but it's very samey.

Ouch

They placed the programme directly against MOTD which was an awful idea, the 9:45pm US GP Qualifying managed so much better as it was postponed and avoided a direct clash with MOTD.

Putting it on BBC2 didn't help with it getting casual viewers although due to the time zone there is no other option although the direct clash with MOTD could have been avoided.

The result show has always been too long and dragged out tbh, they could easily trim it back to having one guest performer, no group performance and a speedier recap and you'd have a half hour show, would have made for much nicer scheduling with XF at 7.30- Jekyll and Hyde at 8 and then Downton at 9 but oh well

A 'so what' attitude to things like that is how X Factor has ended up in the mess it's in. Him shouting a random line about how much he loves a song put out by the company which owns the show: awkward, contrived and just generally cringeworthy. So a perfect encapsulation of the entire show, actually..

The group song was that particular One Direction number, hence he said how much he loved it. To be fair it wasn't completely random.

I'm fairly sure Dermot used to make odd little comments like that. Out of all the problems this year that throw away line definitely isn't one. Talk about making mountains out of mole hills.

Thanks for clarifying, but the basic point still stands If you're going to stick people with next-to-no TV presenting experience on one of the biggest shows on TV, at least leave out the fake-ad libs which it takes years of experience to know how to deliver with the right amount of subtlety. They just don't help themselves.

Really ? It wasn't shown in the London area. What were they advertising ?

So? At the end of the day Syco is a business that needs sales to survive, at least it doesn't claim billions in taxpayer money!

That is the thing. As Roscoe Barnes said, Dermot made the same ad libs but they sounded so easy and off the cuff; it jarred from Olly. I swear he was better than this on Xtra Factor - maybe because it was more 'free and easy' on the spin off.

Olly Murs and the other one are terrible presenters for this. Dermot had that authority, he was a real and serious presenter. I am by no means an x factor fan, I only watch it when im at my mums house and she's got it on. Just think they are both incredibly lightweight for this, surely there are better options?