The Ratings Thread (Part 66)

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sally_allen

06-11-2015

Originally Posted by Minute Mart 1:
“No question EE is the bigger 2nd soap, albeit clashes (although the gap is much narrower now) as much as ED fans would like to tell you different. I am not sticking up EE, no longer watch and don't give a stuff and probably will never watch again. I agree the figures are not good enough, however going back through the years when there has been a clash between the two 9/10 ED has won and in the past EE has gone to as low as 3.5 million, so we are quite away from that.

As for the clashes damaging both soaps permanently, I sincerely hope it does! We could do with less soap on UK tv, although the thought of being left with the awful Coronation Street is not good either. ”

I don't blame you. DTC needs to leave.

burbe

06-11-2015

EastEnders has never been as low as 3.5m. It's lowest ever figure is just under 4m. Emmerdale only wins because it has the 30 minute headstart. On the very few occasions where it has been the other way round, EE has won. Same with Corrie too. It's just natural that whoever has the headstart wins and it's 9/10 Emmerdale.

Salv*

06-11-2015

Is this the first time For the Love of Dogs has beaten EE?

Salv*

06-11-2015

Originally Posted by burbe:
“EastEnders has never been as low as 3.5m. It's lowest ever figure is just under 4m. Emmerdale only wins because it has the 30 minute headstart. On the very few occasions where it has been the other way round, EE has won. Same with Corrie too. It's just natural that whoever has the headstart wins and it's 9/10 Emmerdale.”

Is that the 3.9m ratings (I think) in 2007 when Phil and Ian crashed and was named as one the most expensive EE episodes ever? If so, what a waste! Does that still remain as the lowest ever? I'm guessing there was a huge ED clash there.

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/east...ans-car-crash/

yorkie100

06-11-2015

Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Steven Moffat can "confirm absolutely" that there will be a full series of Doctor Who next year
The showrunner denies tabloid reports that series 10 of the BBC sci-fi hit will be a reduced run of episodes

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-...-who-next-year

Steven Moffat has strongly denied tabloid reports that Doctor Who will run next year with a reduced number of episodes.
The denial comes in response to a newspaper story which alleges that next year's series of the BBC1 sci-fi show will be halved so that lead actor Peter Capaldi can turn director on other projects – including a film based on his time in Glasgow punk band The Dreamboys and two episodes of US sitcom Veep. However, speaking to RadioTimes.com, Moffat said that the story was "bunk," and that he could "confirm absolutely" that he is not making fewer episodes.
"We’re making a full series. I can confirm that," said Moffat. "I’m making a full series of 12 episodes, plus a Christmas special. I don’t know when it goes out. That’s up to someone else. And even if I did know – which I genuinely don’t – I wouldn’t be allowed to say so as I have absolutely no say in it whatsoever.

Moffat is not the only one denying the claims, though, with Capaldi himself also having responded to a question about the possibility of a shorter series by confirming "That's not what I've been told... that's not what I'm contracted for."”

So if this is true then all the newspapers and fair amount of people on DS have all been wrong. Now there is a surprise.

Roscoe Barnes

06-11-2015

Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Is that the 3.9m ratings (I think) in 2007 when Phil and Ian crashed and was named as one the most expensive EE episodes ever? If so, what a waste! Does that still remain as the lowest ever? I'm guessing there was a huge ED clash there.

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/east...ans-car-crash/”

Yes, it's EE's lowest ever rating (3.9m). It went that low when it faced the Emmerdale house collapse episode - a truly brilliant soap episode on Thursday 13th July 2006. IIRC, Emmerdale averaged 6.6m for that hour long episode.

Emmerdale did well that week. It was the first week the soap resumed its normal slot after it has been moved to 10pm due to the World Cup where it rated badly for 4-weeks.

LHolmes

06-11-2015

Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“Yes, it's EE's lowest ever rating (3.9m). It went that low when it faced the Emmerdale house collapse episode - a truly brilliant soap episode on Thursday 13th July 2006. IIRC, Emmerdale averaged 6.6m for that hour long episode.”

Yes it was a bog standard episode of EastEnders going up against the Emmerdale house clash. Emmerdale itself got quite a few 3.xm ratings that summer. The Mitchell/Beale crash in 2007 got 4m odd.

James J

06-11-2015

The DW news means we have 12 weeks next year of saying the show is dead based on its overnights. The joys.

A.D.P

06-11-2015

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“So if this is true then all the newspapers and fair amount of people on DS have all been wrong. Now there is a surprise. ”

" Yes"

Looks like it will go into an earlier slot, to regain children watching.

6.30 pm Sunday seems to now be the " scary" slot.

A.D.P

06-11-2015

Originally Posted by James J:
“The DW news means we have 12 weeks next year of saying the show is dead based on its overnights. The joys.”

Depends how well it does against The Voice on ITV in Autumn Saturday nights.

Not sure though how Simon Cowell will get over the motion sickness of turning the chair.

James J

06-11-2015

Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Depends how well it does against The Voice on ITV in Autumn Saturday nights.”

Perplexed face.

burbe

06-11-2015

Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Depends how well it does against The Voice on ITV in Autumn Saturday nights.

Not sure though how Simon Cowell will get over the motion sickness of turning the chair.”

I don't think Simon Cowell is appropriate for The Voice unless they change the format (since they are supposed to sing with their team members).

Dan R

06-11-2015

Originally Posted by James J:
“The DW news means we have 12 weeks next year of saying the show is dead based on its overnights. The joys.”

And 12 weeks of people also ignoring the noticeable consolidated decline.

yorkie100

06-11-2015

Originally Posted by Dan R:
“And 12 weeks of people also ignoring the noticeable consolidated decline.”

Sorry are you talking about DW or XF?

Minute Mart 1

06-11-2015

Sorry I stand corrected it was 3.9 million.

Minute Mart 1

06-11-2015

Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“So many ways to look at EE as indicated by the varying posts.

Worth remembering that in the soap heyday EE was regularly 6 million viewers ahead of Emmerdale so the general soap crash has hit EE much harder given that they are now more or less level pegging. Live week was brilliant game changing tv imo ending emotionally- although the way the storyline with Bobby played out arguably made it more difficult to follow up. However I don't agree that all the storylines currently are a turn off-as ever there is a mix and some are more watchable than others (accepting imo that there is far too little light relief). What is clear though is that EE is not able to assert itself in the ED clashes and it obviously suits ITV to keep grinding away at EE whilst keeping Coronation Street with a free a run as possible through the year.

I don't know what the answer is. I don't think for a minute that EE is under any threat but its obviously not healthy for the show to have the equivalent of someone sticking pins into your leg at frequent intervals. It would be interesting to see if EE was rescheduled whether ITV would then manufacture more clashes.”

Yes they would.

The only thing the Beeb could do sensibly would be two drop an episode of EE and run it Mon, Weds and Fri at 8pm leaving Holby at 8pm on Tuesday.

James J

06-11-2015

Originally Posted by Minute Mart 1:
“Yes they would.

The only thing the Beeb could do sensibly would be two drop an episode of EE and run it Mon, Weds and Fri at 8pm leaving Holby at 8pm on Tuesday.”

Dropping Friday would be much better.

It's run Mon/Tue/Thu for much longer than it's had Friday.

cylon6

06-11-2015

The Times is reporting The Voice is going to ITV after the next series.

No real surprise. If it's not on in January it won't rate well.

cylon6

06-11-2015

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“So if this is true then all the newspapers and fair amount of people on DS have all been wrong. Now there is a surprise. ”

I'll believe it when they announce it. We've been here before with series 6a/6b and 7a/7b.

yorkie100

06-11-2015

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“The Times is reporting The Voice is going to ITV after the next series.

No real surprise. If it's not on in January it won't rate well.”

If true the BBC supporters will be hoping for falling ratings for the next series - that will be a novelty.

Minute Mart 1

07-11-2015

Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Is this the first time For the Love of Dogs has beaten EE?”

As far as i know it didn't.

Minute Mart 1

07-11-2015

Originally Posted by James J:
“Dropping Friday would be much better.

It's run Mon/Tue/Thu for much longer than it's had Friday.”

And move Holby to Friday?

cylon6

07-11-2015

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“If true the BBC supporters will be hoping for falling ratings for the next series - that will be a novelty. ”

Not as much as BBC bosses will!

If it doesn't stay on Saturdays in Winter it won't do well.

cylon6

07-11-2015

EastEnders should be closer to Coronation Street than Emmerdale. The fact it isn't is down to what the show has been giving us.

Pizzatheaction

07-11-2015

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Not as much as BBC bosses will! ”

They should deliberately screw up the next series. Put people off it.

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