There was a time when they wouldn't allow anyone else to play superman but now it's happened so even though it might not be straight away anything is possible.

That's just the thing though, as Cadiva has already, we'll no doubt have appearances from Superman (and maybe Batman, Wonderwoman and others going forward) but it's highly unlikely they'll ever get their own tv series.

If we ever do see Batman, Aquaman, (a) Lanturn, Cyborg or Wonder Woman, it'll be in cameo form, or a couple of episodes at best. Even if DC did suddenly decide to bring Batman into the fold, Arrow has dealt with a good portion of Batman villains already, and I doubt they'll suddenly start introducing the Riddler, Penguin and others as they're already well established (quite well) on Gotham.

Arrow has become the Batman of DCTV. If they ever did a Justice League on the small screen, they'd have to use secondary characters (excluding Barry). Instead of having a team of Batman, Superman, Aquaman, Cyborg, Flash & Wonder Woman, we'd likely have Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, Manhunter, Nightwing (I'll explain this one in a minute), and the Hawks.

The reason I say Nightwing is because he'd possibly serve to Batman as Supegirl does to Superman; if that makes sense. They couldn't put too large a role in to Superman, so they've established Supergirl. In the same breath they may use Robin/Nightwing instead of Batman.

Maybe in a few years, when the existing three shows (I'm excluding Legends here for the moment) have been wrapped up, they'll do a Justice League themed show and throw more into it, just it'll be without the big names.

The only reason why I'm back this season is for Superman and Hoechlin is doing a great job so far. I hope a Superman TV series comes off the back of this.

DC don't own Wonder Woman, if I recall correctly, and haggling with the William Moulton Marston estate over cameos in other shows would probably be considered more hassle than it's worth.

Actually DC does own Wonder Woman. They're just still contractually bound by some really favorable contract conditions William Moulton Marston put in the original contract with All American Comics. They got the ownership after he died (vs. it going to his estate), but if they ever stop publishing the character, the Marston estate gets the ownership back. There are also conditions on approval of her appearances in other media, I believe, but I can't say I'm sure how many of those are due to Marston himself and how many have been applied by other agreements or policies from Warners.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/supergi...reen-universe/ doesn't actually say there will be a superman series but if a deal can be worked out I think there is a chance.

Honestly, I think it might be too much. To launch a Superman show will take away from the Supergirl show, without question. It'll be too similar (because they're practically the same hero with respect to their powers). Imagine if they developed a Kid Flash tv series alongside Flash, or a Jay Garrick tv series alongside Flash; it would be another speedster show; all too similar. Imagine if Marvel decided to launch a Hawkeye show. That's Arrow 2.0.

I think Superman will remain in cameo form. It's possible they'd use him on the show more and more, and further possible that they could rename the show to feature both characters switching between episodes, but I'll be very surprised if a sole Superman show gets green lit whilst Supergirl is still airing.

It might be a idea to have him as an occasional guest star/semi regular, just in case Melissa is unavailable for some reason.

They must have something in mind because I can't see them bringing superman in for only 2 eps. Probably the occasional cameo to start with. One of the main concerns I've read from some is it becoming all about him when she should be the star since its called supergirl. Whether this would happen only time will tell.

I know I could handle a show about Supergirl also having Superman in every episode.

Sure, it'd be nice to have him in more than just the first two episodes, but either way, not complaining - the reviews are really super positive (sorry).

2x01

Not perfect (the Kara & Jimmy relationship is handled with a startlingly blunt axe)... but close enough that overall people will be VERY happy. Tyler Hoechlin really DOES totally nail both Superman and Clark Kent, and you get the sense that the flaws the episode DOES have are due to several scenes being awkwardly cut out to make the 43 minute time limit. You can TELL there's a missing scene where Kara experienced something specific that put her off a relationship with Jimmy. You can TELL there's possibly a missing scene between Clark and Jimmy having some heart to heart, because it's not only implied but photos of that scene were in the media (it's at least possible that happens next episode though). There's also definitely a missing scene with Winn, because as has been widely reported he moves to the DEO, but the pre-airing spoilers insisted it was after he'd been let go from CatCo (I'm wondering if it was because of that little private sanctuary he set up for Supergirl--maybe it got found and he took the hit for it since he couldn't explain it)... and we never see that last part happen in the episode.

The episode plot is fairly simple, but it didn't need to be more complicated. It did pretty much what it had to, and other than the mess created by those cuts, was slick and very view-able.

I need to watch it again. I tried so hard to not have any expectations and I was a little bit disappointed. Not sure why. It did feel like a two-parter that should have been a two-parter in its own right. Very rushed; far FAR too rushed.

Would have been happy with more scenes of the Clark and Kara just doing stuff...

I've got this nagging feeling of being short changed.

When we found out Supergirl was moving to the CW and would integrated into the universe of their other shows, AND Flash announced its Flashpoint storyline, my mind exploded with the thought of each series being rebooted with drastic changes occurring as a result of Barry saving his mom. I was filled with oooooo and omgz at the prospect of previously dead people returning and our favourite characters having completely different jobs and personalities. And just how the CW ptb were going to bring Supergirl to the other universe, omg that will surely be epicness unbounded......

But then Flashpoint is over in a single ep and nothing seems to have changed in the other series. Arrow is the same and Supergirl is the same. Maybe all the wowness will be in the 4 parter crossover extrodinaire but at the mo I'm all like, where's the frickin awesomeness dammit.

Although Superman is cool and I loved how the show gave us the reason why he wasn't constantly teaming up with Kara in S1 <- the "you've got Kryptonite, so frak you" reason.

Much better than I expected, though a few small hiccups that didn't seem to fit. For example, Clarke's phone call with Lois. Is it me, or was that the shortest and strangest phone call on the show to date?

Also, the tension between Clarke and Manhunter; where did that come from? Hank often spoke highly of Superman back in Season 1, and yet here we are in Season 2, and he's seemingly got issues with him.


Overjoyed. The romance between Kara & Jimmy was so false from the get-go. I'm glad they've seemingly wrapped that up.


Agreed.


Heh, I feel your pain. I feel as though they've missed the ball here. Flashpoint would have been the perfect excuse/reason to integrate Kara's Earth with that of Barry & Ollie, but they've handled it poorly. It's possible that the Flashpoint arc isn't entirely done with, because time itself seems to be the villain in this series of Flash (due to Barry screwing with it all the time). We know Kara is involved in the crossover though, and it would be really odd if Barry just went jumped into her Earth to ask for her help on our Earth for a mere four episodes.

I guess we'll have to wait and see here... Hopefully something will happen (with Flash) that will merge the worlds. I read somewhere (I forget where) that when Kara and Barry meet (again) from her perspective, it'll be the first time which doesn't quite make sense regardless of how you look at it...

I've my fingers well and truly crossed that I've just got the wrong end of the stick and Flashpoint wasn't the thing that combined the worlds, it was something post Flashpoint that's still to come. Like being told you've been set up on a blind date and will meet the love of your life, only to find it wasn't the date but the waitress (or something like that)

btw: maybe, if they had had more money we would've got a 2 hour Flashpoint movie where we get to see the effect of his intervention on the Flash team, the Arrow team, the Legend team AND the Supergirl Team. Heck, why not a 4 parter mega movie ep. And at the end, he goes back to undo it, returning things to their original state (thus anyone skipping it and just watching Angel, or SG or L wouldn't notice anything different). They coulda had loads of fun demonstrating the ripple effect and making his undo-decision more of a necessity than a "I wanna be the Flash darn it so screw my parents happiness" selfish reason. (ish)

Kinda like that Smallville ep where Clark goes up against Doomsday. With money maybe we'da got an ep long mega fight, destroying buildings and reeking havok all over the city, cars being thrown and trains being derailed, etc etc. But all they could afford was them exchanging a few punches pattercake style and that was it.

If you know your budget is limited then please don't build up my expectation of getting something big 'n wowy, only to then go all damp squib on me with something "is that it"ness.

Hah, I hope you're right, | really do. No doubt Barry isn't done with fudging up the timeline this season, and it's unlikely we've seen the last of Kid Flash (and we know Jay Garrick is back at some point). I suspect there will be a merge of worlds at some point; it would be the logical thing to do if nothing else.


This is what makes me think there's a lot more to come. They've been boasting a lot about how grand the Flashpoint arc is going to be, and it would be ... optimistic to suspect that it's not a mere single episode, and that there will be a lot more to come. If there isn't, then they've overhyped this to a shameful level, and they're going to piss off a lot of people.

^ maybe thinking the show was going to do Flashpoint exactly like the comics / animated movie (or close to that) was where I went wrong, and rather than the show "wasting that golden opportunity to show [as mentioned above]" they have a plan, an awesome plan, and we're not gonna be missing all that if-only stuff when the plan has run its course.

The tv series was never going to mimic the comic flashpoint, especially since we're lacking characters such as Batman, Wonder Woman, the Lantern Corps and Aquaman (etc). However it was stated by the showrunners that Flashpoint was to have significant consequences on all four of the other shows going forward, and I just don't see how it can. On a side note, it'll be interesting to see if/how they touch on this with their DC films, cause it's not a story they can wrap up in a single hit, but at the same time they're not (likely) going to want to destroy their own continuity too much.

The only significant consequence from Kara's perspective is if her world (her Earth) merges with ours. Legends is kind of a mess as it is anyway (due to time travel) but there doesn't appear to be any consequence at all with Arrow. The guy playing Diggle (David?) I thought said something about flashpoint having a huge effect on his character, yet from the perspective of Arrow, he's exactly where we expected him to be following Season 4's conclusion.

I'll reserve the right to make judgement, as it's still early days, but from what we've been shown thus far, I believe the showrunners to have fibbed a little.

Melissa Benoist was very good as Kara/Supergirl again (in my opinion) and I like Winn is now working at the DEO.

I'm also glad too see Lena Luthor on the show I wonder if she'll turn out a villain or stay like she is right now as for Clark Kent/Superman I thought Tyler's portrayal of him was good as well.

I wonder if Lois Lane will ever appear on the show and speaking of which is Lucy Lane returning this year and where was Maxwell Lord?

Overall though I enjoyed it but I wish their was more Kara/Alex moments in the episode.

A new Supergirl trailer: (some scenes from 2x01 and some new scenes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUoyiOwP2h0

Have to agree. Thought they'd use flashpoint to bring kara to the main universe but that seems to be all done now and nothing's changed. Curious how they are going to bring them a together now or is it going to be totally forgot about and just be Barry taking Oli on a trip through time and space and just happens upon Kara again?

I'm sure it's been reported recently that Supergirl universe wouldn't be integrated into the universe of Flash,Arrow and Legends Of Tomorrow.As they said that Supergirl would be constantly jumping between the universes which makes sense than combining the universes!

I hope this report is just to mislead the viewer and they will combine the universes as it would make less sense to have her constantly jumping between the two universes!

By the way I did like the mention of that couple/family moving back to Gotham as it would be safer!

Spoiler news about Jimmy Olsen:

Just caught the opening episode, loved it.

Tyler Hoechlin is great as Superman and the teaming up of him and Supergirl was nice to see throughout the episode.

Really liked Lena Luthor but I do think she'll go back and forth between good and evil.

Cadmus stuff at the end was also interesting too.