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Supergirl [US Pace]
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koantemplation
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by TWS:
“Like the real world then meet someone, have chemistry go on dates”

This will be the 'real world' where Supergirl and a Martian exist?
James Frederick
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“This will be the 'real world' where Supergirl and a Martian exist?”

Just because Aliens exist in this world doesn't mean everybody hooks up as soon as they meet.


I like this story Alex questioning her sexuailty as some people do even adults.
James Frederick
10-11-2016
Just thought.

If Alex is gay that would make The Flash the only show without a regular gay character I know the Police Cheif was gay but he was killed off and only appeared in a handful of episodes.
not_the_doctor
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Schmiznurf:
“They're not together yet, they've merely shown chemistry, it's a slow build.”

Ross and Rachel was slow. Jim and Pam was slow. Even Kara and "James", which luckily went nowhere in the end, was slow-ish by CW standards. Considering that Alex was straight until a couple of weeks ago, and that they were obviously building something between her and Maxwell Lord last season, the speed with which she has suddenly discovered and acknowledged this side of herself would be enough to give anyone sexual whiplash.

Not that I mind it. It's a little forced, but if anything, it seems to be one of the few relationships on any of these shows that has a little bit of actual chemistry. But slow? Nope.
TWS
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“This will be the 'real world' where Supergirl and a Martian exist?”

Uh no...but meeting someone and dating them happens in the real world as I said, your post implied it doesnt, but your sarcasm really clarified the point.
Schmiznurf
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“Just thought.

If Alex is gay that would make The Flash the only show without a regular gay character I know the Police Cheif was gay but he was killed off and only appeared in a handful of episodes.”

He's still alive,

Originally Posted by not_the_doctor:
“Ross and Rachel was slow. Jim and Pam was slow. Even Kara and "James", which luckily went nowhere in the end, was slow-ish by CW standards. Considering that Alex was straight until a couple of weeks ago, and that they were obviously building something between her and Maxwell Lord last season, the speed with which she has suddenly discovered and acknowledged this side of herself would be enough to give anyone sexual whiplash.

Not that I mind it. It's a little forced, but if anything, it seems to be one of the few relationships on any of these shows that has a little bit of actual chemistry. But slow? Nope.”

The thing with her and Lord was only ever her way of getting close to him to see if he was really a bad guy, he had something for her but she wasn't into him.

She wasn't straight until a few weeks ago, her sexually was, for the audience, undefined. That;s how it can work in life as well though, yo can think you're straight for a long time until you find someone you are attracted to of the same sex and then you have to come to terms with who you are.
Cadiva
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“Just thought.

If Alex is gay that would make The Flash the only show without a regular gay character I know the Police Cheif was gay but he was killed off and only appeared in a handful of episodes.”

Urm he's back Captain Singh only got killed off in alternative timeline Flash, in the current one he's been in it this Season.

Originally Posted by Schmiznurf:
“She wasn't straight until a few weeks ago, her sexually was, for the audience, undefined. That;s how it can work in life as well though, yo can think you're straight for a long time until you find someone you are attracted to of the same sex and then you have to come to terms with who you are.”

Again we're in agreement. Alex's sexuality has never been directly addressed by the show before this point with the single exception of the "date" she went on with Max Lord.
Karis
11-11-2016
I'm tired of all this sexuality discussion. It might not happen to any of you but it does happen where a person meets another person and BANG - fireworks.

Happened to one of my closest friends and she's happier now than she's ever been with a guy.

So this is not like it's some incredible stretch of the imagination. They both have a hell of a lot in common and it's all making perfect sense to me.

It's actually my favourite thing about the show this year.
Lisa.B
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Schmiznurf:
“The thing with her and Lord was only ever her way of getting close to him to see if he was really a bad guy, he had something for her but she wasn't into him.

She wasn't straight until a few weeks ago, her sexually was, for the audience, undefined. That;s how it can work in life as well though, yo can think you're straight for a long time until you find someone you are attracted to of the same sex and then you have to come to terms with who you are.”

That's how I saw it too, Alex was always rolling her eyes at him and giving him the brush off. It was all to suss him out.

Originally Posted by Karis:
“I'm tired of all this sexuality discussion. It might not happen to any of you but it does happen where a person meets another person and BANG - fireworks.

Happened to one of my closest friends and she's happier now than she's ever been with a guy.

So this is not like it's some incredible stretch of the imagination. They both have a hell of a lot in common and it's all making perfect sense to me.

It's actually my favourite thing about the show this year. ”

Indeed. Alex has always been so focused on work and protecting Kara and gives off that stoic tough girl vibe, so new relationships have been difficult and not really a priority for her. In Maggie she sees that similar persona to her, putting work first and valuing human/alien equality. Alex is very guarded, but the way Maggie carries herself so confidently and engages in flirty banter, draws her to her. I'm used to seeing the ultra-slow burn on tv, but sometimes if the chemistry clicks, it clicks.
Karis
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Lisa.B:
“Alex is very guarded, but the way Maggie carries herself so confidently and engages in flirty banter, draws her to her. I'm used to seeing the ultra-slow burn on tv, but sometimes if the chemistry clicks, it clicks.”

I agree. Absolutely love it! It's a great thing, but really, we're on episode 6 - that's not a particularly long burn, is it?
not_the_doctor
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Karis:
“I'm tired of all this sexuality discussion. It might not happen to any of you but it does happen where a person meets another person and BANG - fireworks.”

Heh, yes, that's exactly my point. "BANG". Fireworks aren't slow, and this happened very quickly. Nobody is objecting to the idea of her sexuality, just the weird comment about it supposedly being slow. Even in real-time of 3 weeks it would have been quick, but keep in mind, the last few episodes have taken place over a few days.
James Frederick
11-11-2016
Well TBF we are already a quater of the way through the series.

And they are still building it up.
Cadiva
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by not_the_doctor:
“Heh, yes, that's exactly my point. "BANG". Fireworks aren't slow, and this happened very quickly. Nobody is objecting to the idea of her sexuality, just the weird comment about it supposedly being slow. Even in real-time of 3 weeks it would have been quick, but keep in mind, the last few episodes have taken place over a few days.”

Where have they said that? There's not been any indication of the time scale the episodes have taken place in that I can remember.
not_the_doctor
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“Where have they said that? There's not been any indication of the time scale the episodes have taken place in that I can remember.”

Superman was in town for just a few days over two episodes, Mon-El woke up and choked Kara, which continued straight into the next episode, etc. There were lots of examples like this last season too, where events picked up directly from the previous episode. Even the season 2 premiere was the day after the season finale, as Cat specifically said.
Cadiva
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by not_the_doctor:
“Superman was in town for just a few days over two episodes, Mon-El woke up and choked Kara, which continued straight into the next episode, etc. There were lots of examples like this last season too, where events picked up directly from the previous episode. Even the season 2 premiere was the day after the season finale, as Cat specifically said.”

Yes, but that was the opening two episodes not the rest of them. They usually say something or make it clear within the episodes, like they did with the Superman stay and with the opening episode.
I don't think there's been anything outside of those and EP3 with Mon-El where it's supposed to have been within days.
not_the_doctor
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“Yes, but that was the opening two episodes not the rest of them.”

It's 3 episodes. Mon-El woke up at the end of episode 2, and was still choking her at the start of episode 3. Or was that a week long "slow burn" choke?
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“They usually say something or make it clear within the episodes, like they did with the Superman stay and with the opening episode.”

There's no need to point it out every episode, but in episode 4, after meeting M'gann the episode before, J'onn's conversation with her clearly shows that this is only their second meeting. I doubt he waited an entire week to go back, considering how pushy he was about it all, as Kara pointed out. At the end of episode 4, Kara says she's taking "custody" of Mon-El, and at the beginning of episode 5, it's his first day at Cat Co and seemingly in the real word. Clearly everything is moving along on a day-to-day time scale, just like most of the first season did.
Schmiznurf
15-11-2016
That was painful, I really felt sorry for Alex.
Lisa.B
15-11-2016
Drunk Kara is quite possibly my new favourite thing.

Surely there's going to be a lot of questions asked if Winn keeps ducking out of work for his side gig with James. Speaking of which, I can go with the lead-based suit, but you can still see his eyes. Plus it's going to look suspicious if James keeps turning up to work battered and bruised... I guess we're not supposed to probe so deeply.

Oh Alex. It made sense though, love isn't easy and it was as much Maggie protecting herself as it was protecting Alex. Maggie's still on the rebound and also probably doesn't want to feel like Alex is projecting onto her because she's the only other out woman she knows, with it all being so fresh. That was also the first time Maggie called her Alex instead of Danvers.

Seems trouble found Mon-El... at least that will keep Alex busy.

Edit:
Spoiler
Mon-El will have to be careful around James, lead is poisonous to Daxamites!
zwixxx
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by Lisa.B:
“Edit:
Spoiler
Mon-El will have to be careful around James, lead is poisonous to Daxamites!
”

so no smooching between them anytime soon then.
not_the_doctor
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by Lisa.B:
“Surely there's going to be a lot of questions asked if Winn keeps ducking out of work for his side gig with James.”

Nah, it's the DEO, where people come and go as they please, regularly show up drunk or hungover, or don't show up at all. For a supposed government/military organization, it's shockingly unprofessional.

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“Speaking of which, I can go with the lead-based suit”

Yep, you want to make your combat gear as heavy as possible.

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“Seems trouble found Mon-El...”

Does the Cadmus lady seem weirdly hands-on with all their nefarious activities?

It's a little disappointing to see Supergirl slipping into the now typical Berlanti-verse mode, where heroes just casually kill the villains without a second thought. In fact, it looked like Supergirl was about to punch Dr. Rudy's head clean off his shoulders in the lab, before she even knew if he had any real powers. Other than that, I think they went too 1-dimensional and villain-of-the-week with Parasite. They need to do a much better job when they introduce characters like this.

The strongest part of the episode was Alex. I don't think these sort of plot lines is where the show is going to find new viewers, but although it has moved very fast so far, in terms of how Chyler Leigh played it this episode, it was one of the most authentic and believable things the show has ever done.
Lisa.B
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by not_the_doctor:
“Nah, it's the DEO, where people come and go as they please, regularly show up drunk or hungover, or don't show up at all. For a supposed government/military organization, it's shockingly unprofessional.

Does the Cadmus lady seem weirdly hands-on with all their nefarious activities?”



You make a good point. There's a lot of drinking on the job now they've got their new dive bar hang-out and how often they get called back into work.

I guess she takes the 'if you want something doing right, do it yourself', approach.
Flash525
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by Lisa.B:
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Spoiler
Mon-El will have to be careful around James, lead is poisonous to Daxamites!
”

Yeah, very different to Kryptonite though; Kara merely needs to be around that and she gets affected. Mon-El was around Jimmy, and wasn't remotely affected, so I guess he'd need to physically tough it, rather than just be around it.

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“Speaking of which, I can go with the lead-based suit.”

Originally Posted by not_the_doctor:
“Yep, you want to make your combat gear as heavy as possible.”

Pretty sure it'll have unique properties in that it'll have been infused with something, so it's more an element of led, not pure led.
koantemplation
17-11-2016
The lesbian storyline just seems so forced.

There is no chemistry between them, and Maggie's rejection of Alex was just a tease.

If I was Alex I would have told her, I fancied her for her, not because she is a woman or because I was a lesbian, and that she had no right to say it was just a 'first time being lesbian' thing. Which was very dismissive.

What is Alex supposed to do? Go out with other women for a while just so she could earn her 'Lesbian badge' and Maggie will want her more? rolleyes
koantemplation
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by Flash525:
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Pretty sure it'll have unique properties in that it'll have been infused with something, so it's more an element of led, not pure led. ”

Do we know what is the thinnest thickness of lead that is needed to stop Supergirl seeing through it?

I'm would say they only need a micrometer or so layer to stop her.
TWS
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“The lesbian storyline just seems so forced.

There is no chemistry between them, and Maggie's rejection of Alex was just a tease.

If I was Alex I would have told her, I fancied her for her, not because she is a woman or because I was a lesbian, and that she had no right to say it was just a 'first time being lesbian' thing. Which was very dismissive.

What is Alex supposed to do? Go out with other women for a while just so she could earn her 'Lesbian badge' and Maggie will want her more? rolleyes”

Seems a lot like the real world to me
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