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Old 10-11-2015, 09:00
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Ah 1.3 not that great, too much exposition of things we already know, and too predictable.
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Old 10-11-2015, 10:37
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Supergirl: "My cousin! My cousin! My cousin! My cousin! My cousin! My cousin! MY COUSIN!!!"

UGH!!!

And now we're going to have to deal with Lucy Lane: "My sister! My sister! My sister! My sister! My sister! MY SISTER!!!"
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Old 10-11-2015, 18:32
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I enjoyed that, although it was a bit of sledgehammer to crack the nut over Supergirl wanting to be her own person (hero) I still did like that she was able to take down Reactron where her cousin couldn't because she had the help of her sister and the DEO plus Winn and Jimmy.
They were able to find out his identity and a means to defeating him because she's willing to accept help from her sister/DEO and her friends but didn't want her cousin doing all the "supering" for her.

I liked the nod at the end where Clark said he wouldn't interfere again and that he'd spoken to James so the Supes-signal wouldn't be answered on Kara's behalf again.

Peter Facinelli's doing a fine job as well with his portrayal of Maxwell Lord and I loved the dynamic between him and Calista during the party. He has an agenda but it's difficult to work out yet just what it is.

More mystery with Hank and his flashing red eyes. Still hoping they're going down the Martian Manhunter route not the Cyborg superman one, David Harewood brings a nice gravitas to the DEO Chief's role which I think would be missing if he turned out to be a big bad.

Also absolutely loved Winn's "Clark Kent is Superman" moment, that was brilliantly done and I like how it's a little nod to Superman fans that he's there in the background and will be used in a specific way only when it fits into Kara's own story narrative about finding her place.
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Old 10-11-2015, 20:29
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Supergirl: "My cousin! My cousin! My cousin! My cousin! My cousin! My cousin! MY COUSIN!!!"

UGH!!!
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I know what you mean. OMG we get it, you are your own WOMAN and not at all a poor relation to SuperMAN.

rolleyes

They really need to stop with the feminism rubbish and the 'It's not about Superman' stuff.

Oh and when you have almost defeated an enemy, it is a good idea NOT to let them fly away. Guess what SuperGIRL, you can fly too.

They really should have left the feminism stuff out and let us ignore the gender issue along with the Superman issue. For a show that is trying to distance itself from Superman, there really was no need to bring in a Lucy Lane.

She is just coming across as whiney.
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Old 10-11-2015, 20:56
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Cringe worthy sexist line of the week

'I may not need Superman to be a hero, but I'll always need you.'

rolleyes.
Shut up already.

Re the Homeland bit, Mellisa was in Homeland
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Old 10-11-2015, 23:26
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An okay episode I think, though I think Melissa could go a round or two at a fighting school. I get that they casted someone young and attractive for the role, but the fight scenes look beyond cheap. Considering that Arrow and Flash have a lower budget, their fight scenes (and overall feel to their shows) seem a lot smoother.

As stated above, I'm hoping Hank is Manhunter, but then why hasn't he got more involved? I guess it'll take a grander threat to the city before he does..? And yeah, Superman. I'm undecided on whether we should actually meet him in person on this show. Yes, it's a show on Supergirl, but Superman (somewhat) forms the backbone of the Kryptonians. I'd expect to actually see him on occasion, maybe the season final?
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Old 10-11-2015, 23:43
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Re. fight scenes:

Isn't the whole point that she *can't* fight properly, as she solely relies on her strength and doesn't know how to actually *fight* though?

Kara isn't Oliver Queen - she may have superstrength, but she has zero training.
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Old 10-11-2015, 23:45
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If Perd Hapley is now a news anchor in National City, does that mean that Supergirl is in the same universe as Parks & Rec?
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Old 11-11-2015, 00:00
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I know what you mean. OMG we get it, you are your own WOMAN and not at all a poor relation to SuperMAN.

rolleyes

They really need to stop with the feminism rubbish and the 'It's not about Superman' stuff.

Oh and when you have almost defeated an enemy, it is a good idea NOT to let them fly away. Guess what SuperGIRL, you can fly too.

They really should have left the feminism stuff out and let us ignore the gender issue along with the Superman issue. For a show that is trying to distance itself from Superman, there really was no need to bring in a Lucy Lane.

She is just coming across as whiney.
It's not necessarily the feminism element of it that's annoying me. It's the desperateness of it. Clearly the show lacks confidence so has to keep referrencing the reason it even exists in order to get the fanboys to watch it. Agents of Shield does it with its ridiculous Avengers referrences and Gotham with it's trying to be Batman before Batman even exists. It's so pathetic.
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Old 11-11-2015, 00:20
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Re. fight scenes:

Isn't the whole point that she *can't* fight properly, as she solely relies on her strength and doesn't know how to actually *fight* though?

Kara isn't Oliver Queen - she may have superstrength, but she has zero training.
That's pretty much my take on it as well, hence why her sister was trying to work with her on her fight technique and we saw her remembering what Alex had said in the previous week's episode when she threw her Aunt off her "using their strength against them".
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Old 11-11-2015, 01:22
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Clark having an instant message chat with Kara openly talking about himself as superman isn't the best move if he wants to keep his identity a secret.
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Old 11-11-2015, 01:29
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Cringe worthy sexist line of the week

'I may not need Superman to be a hero, but I'll always need you.'

rolleyes.
Shut up already.

Re the Homeland bit, Mellisa was in Homeland
How was that sexist it just meant she will always need her sister it would be the same if it was a brother.

It's obvious they are very close and don't think of each other as adopted sisters but real sisters.
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Old 11-11-2015, 01:53
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Also absolutely loved Winn's "Clark Kent is Superman" moment, that was brilliantly done and I like how it's a little nod to Superman fans that he's there in the background and will be used in a specific way only when it fits into Kara's own story narrative about finding her place.
I wonder if him knowing about Kara and Clark will come into play later.

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Old 11-11-2015, 02:29
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How was that sexist it just meant she will always need her sister it would be the same if it was a brother.

It's obvious they are very close and don't think of each other as adopted sisters but real sisters.
Wrong end of the sexist stick. It's not about her sister but about SuperMAN.

Would she have said it about SuperWOMAN?
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:18
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Wrong end of the sexist stick. It's not about her sister but about SuperMAN.

Would she have said it about SuperWOMAN?
Yes I suppose she would have she meant as long as she has her Sister it's all she needs.

In the comics Superwoman (more than one of them) is not even related to her or from Krypton it's for the most part it's diffrent versons of Lois Lane inc one verson where that Lois is a evil Wonder Woman (but still uses the Superwoman name)

Lastest verson is Lucy Lane but that was pre New 52 don't think they have one at the moment.

So overall she may be more likely to say it to Superwoman.
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:52
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Isn't the whole point that she *can't* fight properly, as she solely relies on her strength and doesn't know how to actually *fight* though?

Kara isn't Oliver Queen - she may have superstrength, but she has zero training.
That's pretty much my take on it as well, hence why her sister was trying to work with her on her fight technique and we saw her remembering what Alex had said in the previous week's episode when she threw her Aunt off her "using their strength against them".
Fair enough, we'll wait and see how she develops, but even the punched the other guys have been throwing come across as sloppy. I'll reserve the right to judge until she's settled into the role a little more...

Clark having an instant message chat with Kara openly talking about himself as superman isn't the best move if he wants to keep his identity a secret.
I was more amazed by how quick Clark was at typing a reply back. Kara typed, then sent the message, and then there was practically an automatic reply. I know Superman/Clark Kent is quick, but for the sake of a slight delay on the message return, would have made all the difference.
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Old 11-11-2015, 19:58
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I find it amazing that this is killing 'Gotham' in the US ratings.
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Old 11-11-2015, 20:09
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I find it amazing that this is killing 'Gotham' in the US ratings.
Not as of last Monday. It still beat Gotham, but by far less than previously. (Gotham didn't go up in the ratings, Supergirl went down)
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Old 11-11-2015, 20:31
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Not as of last Monday. It still beat Gotham, but by far less than previously. (Gotham didn't go up in the ratings, Supergirl went down)
IMHO, Gotham is by far the better show.
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Old 11-11-2015, 21:17
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I find it amazing that this is killing 'Gotham' in the US ratings.
What do Americans know? It's their useless networks that keep ending shows because of poor US ratings, even though some of those shows we love over here - it's just usually too late by then.
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Old 11-11-2015, 21:40
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What do Americans know? It's their useless networks that keep ending shows because of poor US ratings, even though some of those shows we love over here - it's just usually too late by then.
Yeah, I liked Invasion as well.
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Old 12-11-2015, 23:50
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This show is severely lacking something. I can't quite put my finger on it. I am losing interest a small bit.
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Old 13-11-2015, 08:52
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This show is severely lacking something. I can't quite put my finger on it. I am losing interest a small bit.
I agree this last episode was a bit... lacking, but I think it can still go the distance.

Not sure if it wouldn't have made a better movie. Whereas the Flash has this great ensemble cast, here it's all pretty much on Supergirl (the rest are somewhat vapid stereotypes)... Give it a few more episodes.

or cancel it and bring back Constantine. Only with writers that can understand the source material and actually write something of substance.
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Old 13-11-2015, 14:32
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I find it amazing that this is killing 'Gotham' in the US ratings.
pretty sure that will lessen week on week as Gotham is far superior. I am a big superhero fan and have never missed any shows and I really feel like I should like this but episode 3 and I am struggling....It's missing something or the its because Im a girl crap is bugging me I'm not sure which.
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Old 13-11-2015, 18:03
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Whereas the Flash has this great ensemble cast,
I think this is part of why I'm not pushed on it. There's no standout characters, there's no Cisco, no Felicity, no Joe .... Just a load of generic side characters - the pushy boss, the sceptical CIA guy, the co-worker who fancies her. It's all paint by numbers characters and no one has a unique personality. Kara herself is good, and I quite like Jimmy but that's it. Apart from her aunt, the villains are cookie cutter too, and if they leave the aunt out for an episode then that doesn't help.

A much better supporting cast this show needs.
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