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Old 28-11-2015, 22:29
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Is Kat Grant in the comics? If so is she this annoying?
Cat Grant is in the comics but she's usually associated with Superman not Supergirl.
As for annoying, guess that depends on whether you think the on screen version is annoying or not. I don't but in the comics she arrives as a potential love interest for Clark Kent and is generally depicted as quite a strong forceful journalist.
She does go a bit off the rails after her son is killed though in some of the later revisions.
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Old 28-11-2015, 23:13
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Cat Grant is in the comics but she's usually associated with Superman not Supergirl.
As for annoying, guess that depends on whether you think the on screen version is annoying or not. I don't but in the comics she arrives as a potential love interest for Clark Kent and is generally depicted as quite a strong forceful journalist.
She does go a bit off the rails after her son is killed though in some of the later revisions.
I find the screen version monumentally annoying.
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Old 01-12-2015, 09:05
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Cracking special effects, but the writing......
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Old 01-12-2015, 10:43
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Cat Grant is in the comics but she's usually associated with Superman not Supergirl.
I'd say it's more accurate to say she's been associated with Superman LONGER, but Cat was a main antagonist in Supergirl's solo title a few years back. So it's not like the Supergirl/Cat connection is out of the blue.
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Old 01-12-2015, 16:01
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On the contrary, I don't think the special effects are all that either. I've seen better special effects out of Arrow and Flash, and they're suppose to have a lower budget.
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Old 01-12-2015, 20:37
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Wonder if Red Tornado will be rebuilt in the comics he started off as bad well his creator was and then he became aware and turned good.

And now she has lost her powers obviously she will get them back.
Wonder if she went Solar Flare?
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Old 01-12-2015, 22:07
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Love LOVED that episode!

Kat was just fantastic. She's really getting to be my fave character

And WHAT is with the bleeding???
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Old 01-12-2015, 23:03
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And WHAT is with the bleeding???
In the comics Superman now has a Solar Flare power.

He uses every bit of power he has in one blast which can take down anything or anyone but the downside is it turns him human/powerless for 24 hours while he recharges.

He glows red when doing this and just before Supergirl blew RT up she did seem to have a red glow to her.
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Old 01-12-2015, 23:06
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I'd assume that she "depleted her solar batteries" when she went all-out with the heat vision.



Also: Next week's episode is called
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Old 01-12-2015, 23:07
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In the comics Superman now has a Solar Flare power.

He uses every bit of power he has in one blast which can take down anything or anyone but the downside is it turns him human/powerless for 24 hours while he recharges.

He glows red when doing this and just before Supergirl blew RT up she did seem to have a red glow to her.
Ah, I didn't know that

It fits though, as we saw her put *everything* into that blast, so it makes sense it could have used all her power.
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Old 01-12-2015, 23:08
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And now she has lost her powers obviously she will get them back.
Wonder if she went Solar Flare?
...And WHAT is with the bleeding???
Are we thinking Kara's eye beam yelling that she turned up a notch to defeat RT was her using some kinda uber-Super weapon that takes so much of an effort that she loses her powers ? (temporarily?)

Hmmm, thinking of it now, if this is what happened then how did she get back home from defeating RT. She flew there, right ?! so a depowered SG couldn't have flown home. Or is it selective depowerment, she can still fly but can bleed too.

BTW: loved the yelling, coulda come across as cheesy or awkward but I loved it.

[edit] I need to type faster.

btw: this superflare depowerment will be a useful tool in her box if ever someone outs her as Supergirl. All she need do is pop into the closet, superflare her powers away, then emerge to demonstrate her human-type weaknesses.
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Old 02-12-2015, 01:03
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I'd say it's more accurate to say she's been associated with Superman LONGER, but Cat was a main antagonist in Supergirl's solo title a few years back. So it's not like the Supergirl/Cat connection is out of the blue.
Yes that's true but she was introduced as a Superman comic character which is what I was saying. She's not been made up for the show she exists in the comic world.

I thought it was a much better episode this week, less of the in your face public broadcast messaging and much more subtle about what it was they were saying.
Particularly liked the little nod at James making the point about black people getting angry and I hope they continue to explore that as well as the gender differences between how a man and a woman can act.

Loved the scenes with Kat, she's becoming a much more nuanced character the longer the show goes on and we're starting to see more of the woman behind the media mogul. Loved how she told her mother off for bitching at Kara and I liked the more subtle way they dealt with the unintentional discrimination when it comes to dealing with anger in the work place.

Some interesting dynamics building up between Maxwell Lord and Alex as well, still not sure what path they're taking his character down as in the comics he is the main funder and supporter of the Justice League International.
Also looking forward to seeing which of the two most often rumoured origins they're going for with Hank. I really hope it's the Martian Manhunter and not Cyborg Superman.
I'm a bit "villains on the inside"-ed out what with Agents of Shield's HYDRA storyline and all that.

Liked the solar flare outcome of her going deep into her rage as well to destroy Red Tornado. Next week's episode looks like it will be a lesson learned the hard way that Kara really doesn't want to be normal

Overall though I'm giving it a 7 out of 10.
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Old 02-12-2015, 01:52
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Found this on Superman's Solar Flare:

http://kotaku.com/superman-s-new-pow...a-l-1683782553
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Old 04-12-2015, 23:15
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Italia Ricci cast as Silver Banshee, who you'd assume would be more than just a villain of week.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/ar...comics-villain
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Old 05-12-2015, 12:29
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Italia Ricci cast as Silver Banshee, who you'd assume would be more than just a villain of week.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/ar...comics-villain
Oh that's an interesting piece of news, she's Robbie Amell's fiancee so more superhero involvement in that particular family
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Old 08-12-2015, 16:54
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I hoped.............but the reveal Fan girl squeal moment
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Old 08-12-2015, 17:21
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He looked pretty cool to be honest.
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Old 08-12-2015, 23:23
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I hoped.............but the reveal Fan girl squeal moment
it was perfect.
I saw it coming a mile away but I was clenching my ass throughout his speech in anticipation.
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Old 09-12-2015, 01:21
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Yeah, I loved that reveal
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Old 09-12-2015, 01:40
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I hoped.............but the reveal Fan girl squeal moment
I actually yelled "yes" when they did the reveal so glad they went down the Martian Manhunter route for the Hank Henshaw character in this incarnation and not his traditional Cyborg Superman one and it was done so brilliantly as well.
It brings in a whole new sub-plot level because Alex is now the connection between two aliens who have lost everything (bare Superman of course and Kara's "new" evul aunt) and are refugees on another planet where their alieness gives them powers.

It was another good episode all round I thought, I'm liking the parallels they're running between Cat and Kara as mentor and student, the contrast between Cat and Maxwell Lord for how each uses their power and position and the whole "what makes us a hero?" narrative was well played.

The only bum note for me was the Winn/James/Kara little scenario as it just made Winn look like a dick, made James look like a dick and made Kara look like a dick. Not because there was actually anything wrong in them having a hug after the whole dad camera death revelation (which was amazingly portrayed by Mehcad Brooks) and the big photo conversation but because the writers chose to make it look wrong.
Winn works way better as a "Cisco" style tech guy for Kara to rely on not as a potential jealous love interest so I really hope they ditch it or don't use it as a reason for him to inherit his dad's normal supervillain role.

The one thing the show's been missing so far is a big villain so it looks like Aunt Astra coming back could be them setting it up for her but one other rumour I've heard
Spoiler


Jemm was a tad disappointing, especially as he's more often than not an ally of J’onn J’onzz but he served his purpose I guess. Was good to see Luke Macfarlane as Donovan again, shame he seems to have bitten the big one, I liked him in Night Shift.

Or maybe we're going to see
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Old 09-12-2015, 03:31
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I do think we will see Cyborg Superman sooner or later or why use Hank Henshaw at all if it was just MM all along with no Cyborg Superman connections they could have made up any name.
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Old 09-12-2015, 13:19
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The only thing I dislike about this is the whole Kara/James/Winn thing.
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Old 09-12-2015, 16:23
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After a somewhat promising start, I am fast losing interest in Supergirl.

Storylines and scripts are rather weak, acting is so-so. The only redeeming feature of the show are the special effects.

What's with all this nonsense about super recharging of 48hrs and exposure to human frailties? Superman only needed to draw his strength from the Sun (and it certainly didn't take him days!)

My only re-collection of a Kryptonian's lethal weakness is exposure to green Kryptonite.

Any chance we please keep to the original concepts and ideas created by Siegel & Shuster?
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Old 09-12-2015, 18:09
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What's with all this nonsense about super recharging of 48hrs and exposure to human frailties? Superman only needed to draw his strength from the Sun (and it certainly didn't take him days!)
I had to read up on this, but it's a new feature that they've implemented into the Superman comics. I guess it's DClore now.
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Old 09-12-2015, 18:54
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After a somewhat promising start, I am fast losing interest in Supergirl.

Storylines and scripts are rather weak, acting is so-so. The only redeeming feature of the show are the special effects.

What's with all this nonsense about super recharging of 48hrs and exposure to human frailties? Superman only needed to draw his strength from the Sun (and it certainly didn't take him days!)

My only re-collection of a Kryptonian's lethal weakness is exposure to green Kryptonite.

Any chance we please keep to the original concepts and ideas created by Siegel & Shuster?
"Solar Flare", and its resulting temporary human weakness, are recent changes to Superman in the comics.

It's already been mentioned in this thread by others, plus I posted this link about it further up this same page: http://kotaku.com/superman-s-new-pow...a-l-1683782553

As for the "original concepts and ideas... " - Superman's powers have changed *a lot* over the years. He has gained powers, lost powers, become overpowered... Even during Siegel and Shuster's run in the Golden Age his powers changed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers...es_of_Superman


Would you prefer that Kara could only leap, instead of fly, for example?


Plus, sticking with the original reasons from the Golden Age, Superman had his powers because of Kryptonian evolution... and then later because of the difference in gravity.

The whole "Superman only needed to draw his strength from the Sun" thing did not come about until the 60s, and so wouldn't actually apply if the series used "the original concepts and ideas created by Siegel & Shuster".
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