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Supergirl [US Pace]
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TWS
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
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Jemm was a tad disappointing, especially as he's more often than not an ally of J’onn J’onzz but he served his purpose I guess. Was good to see Luke Macfarlane as Donovan again, shame he seems to have bitten the big one, I liked him in Night Shift.

Or maybe we're going to see
Spoiler
Silver Banshee becoming Supergirl's nemesis, it's a good casting at any rate.
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Agree with everything you said I too like Luke love him as Rick on the Night Shift did you watch Killjoys he was great in that too
eggshell
10-12-2015
Well, take away the love triangle bilge, and I thought that episode was pretty great.

The Henshaw reveal was very cool and the Cat and Cara bits get ever better.

When Supergirl is super she's a damn sight more impressive than recent incarnations of her cousin.

Most entertaining sci fi show on tv for me at the moment, better than the rest of the DC stable, Agents of Shield and Who.

Would never have thought we'd get to this level of entertainment 6 weeks ago.
eggshell
10-12-2015
NB

I'm probably influenced in my gushing by UPBEAT superhero moments like this :

https://m.youtube.com/?gl=GB&hl=en-GB

Welcome different styles of story telling but am a bit tired of dark angst.

Go Supergirl !!!
Matt D
10-12-2015
Wrong link...
Matt D
16-12-2015
No one watched this yet?


I thought that it was a better ep this week. (Aside from the continued Winn/Kara/Jimmy crap that no one is interested in.)

Good stuff with Kara and her Aunt, more stuff about Hank, nice bits with Cat including Cat *working it out*. And we saw that Lord has been working on anti Kryptonian weapons...
Flash525
16-12-2015
Well it didn't take Cat too long to suss out her assistant was Supergirl, did it? Though it was a nice touch, I ponder whether it's too soon. All the secrets seem to be being revealed a tad too quickly for my liking; everyone knows who everyone else really is.

I'm also amazed by how terrible some of the sceneric fights are; that scene with Kara and her aunt in the city was terrible (when they were just hovering there). I've said it before, but when you've got shows like Arrow and Flash (that are rumoured to be on a lower budget) that can pull off better special effects, that says something I still feel as though Supergirl (the show, not character) is lacking that small something.

I don't understand why Kara isn't allowed to know about Hank/Manhunter either. You'd think he'd be grateful to get that secret off his chest to another good person; Clark seems to know who he is; there was reference to superman finding it comical that Manhunter couldn't read his mind or something?

Still wondering too whether we're going to meet Superman (as he currently is) anytime soon, or whether he'll be the Batman of the Arrow/Flash verse (we know he exists, but have yet to meet him). I also wonder whether, with Manhunter, Red Tornado and Supergirl, whether they're going to build toward a justice league (of sorts) like they're doing with the Arrow/Flash stuff; small teams that get together occasionally to assist with a larger threat.
James Frederick
16-12-2015
I wonder if Cat found out because there was only 9 eps planned if it didn't get picked up for a full series so that way it could end with her knowing.

Wonder if next week had 2 endings filmed 1 if it didn't get picked up to end it and 2 a cliffhanger.

Edit it's not on next week according to Wiki it's back Jan 4th.
Matt D
16-12-2015
Originally Posted by Flash525:
“Well it didn't take Cat too long to suss out her assistant was Supergirl, did it? Though it was a nice touch, I ponder whether it's too soon. All the secrets seem to be being revealed a tad too quickly for my liking; everyone knows who everyone else really is.

I'm also amazed by how terrible some of the sceneric fights are; that scene with Kara and her aunt in the city was terrible (when they were just hovering there). I've said it before, but when you've got shows like Arrow and Flash (that are rumoured to be on a lower budget) that can pull off better special effects, that says something I still feel as though Supergirl (the show, not character) is lacking that small something.

I don't understand why Kara isn't allowed to know about Hank/Manhunter either. You'd think he'd be grateful to get that secret off his chest to another good person; Clark seems to know who he is; there was reference to superman finding it comical that Manhunter couldn't read his mind or something?

Still wondering too whether we're going to meet Superman (as he currently is) anytime soon, or whether he'll be the Batman of the Arrow/Flash verse (we know he exists, but have yet to meet him). I also wonder whether, with Manhunter, Red Tornado and Supergirl, whether they're going to build toward a justice league (of sorts) like they're doing with the Arrow/Flash stuff; small teams that get together occasionally to assist with a larger threat.”

Yeah, Hank said that Superman finds it hilarious that Hank can't read Kryptonian minds.

When Hank revealed himself to Alex the previous week, he said that only one other person knows who he really is. This week's ep confirmed that it's Superman.
Flash525
16-12-2015
Originally Posted by Matt D:
“When Hank revealed himself to Alex the previous week, he said that only one other person knows who he really is. This week's ep confirmed that it's Superman.”

I hope Manhunter shows up (eventually) within the DCCU.
Cadiva
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by Matt D:
“No one watched this yet?

I thought that it was a better ep this week. (Aside from the continued Winn/Kara/Jimmy crap that no one is interested in.)

Good stuff with Kara and her Aunt, more stuff about Hank, nice bits with Cat including Cat *working it out*. And we saw that Lord has been working on anti Kryptonian weapons...”

Bit late to the party, just managed to catch EP 8 now. Cracking good episode, I like how they use Cat to mirror what's happening in Supergirl (a bit like Arrow's Flashbacks to the island etc giving us an insight into what's happening with Oliver).

Some really good scenes with Kara and Astra, bit more background and fleshing out of the backstory to what was going on on Krypton and how not everything is as black & white as Kara once thought.
Wonder whether they're going to be going along the global warming storyline as a mirror for what happened with Krypton as it was stripped of resources and made unstable. Collateral damage and all that with the death of the guard when Non and Astra destroyed the Government building etc.

I love Cat Grant, I think Calista plays her brilliantly and shows this deep down hidden core of goodness which she buries behind the hard nosed cares for nobody businesswoman.
Glad they've had her work out Kara is Supergirl, it was getting a bit hard to believe she wouldn't have picked up on it.

Also liked the scenes with Max Lord, still itching to find out just what he's up to with his weaponry which is affective against Kryptons.
Loved Hank's quips about Superman finding it funny he couldn't read his mind and that he'd loved the kryptonite dagger.

Looking forward to seeing the show after the festive break and really glad it's got a full season run.
eggshell
05-01-2016
Unfortunately the latest episode didn't quite meet the standards set in episode 8 for me although there was a lot to like :-

Pro's:-

The Kara,Jimmy,Winn dynamic is vastly improved.

Thought they sold the reason why Kara keeps the day job very convincingly.

Was impressed that it was loyalty and caring for others that won the day.

The Kara/Astra bits were really powerful.

Cons:

Thought it a bit odd that Kara was spending most of a very critical time bantering with Kat

The action sequences, what there were, were a bit lacklustre.

Whilst the Clark instant messaging was somewhat heart warming it sort of reduces the Kryptonian threat a lot that he doesn't feel the need to step in..probably didn't need reminding that he existed at this point.

7/10 and Melissa is still storming it !
Matt D
05-01-2016
What a cop out with Cat though!

I'd much rather she knew, than they used the tired old "get a shapeshifter to protect your identity" routine.


Definitely some really good bits though as you say, such as Kara/Astra and Kara's reasons for keeping the job.
Flash525
05-01-2016
I have to admit, I thought they'd have gone a different route with Kat and Kara, rather than pretty much undo what they did with the not-so-apparent revelation.

Originally Posted by eggshell:
“Thought they sold the reason why Kara keeps the day job very convincingly.”

Couldn't Kara have just said "well yeah, okay Kat, I am supergirl, but I also need a job, cause flying around saving people doesn't pay my bills".

Originally Posted by eggshell:
“The action sequences, what there were, were a bit lacklustre.”

I have always found them to be so. I've said before, and I'll say it again, but Supergirl is suppose to have a bigger budget than Arrow & Flash, and yet Supergirl looks far more... tackier.

Originally Posted by eggshell:
“Whilst the Clark instant messaging was somewhat heart warming it sort of reduces the Kryptonian threat a lot that he doesn't feel the need to step in..probably didn't need reminding that he existed at this point.”

This actually bothers me quite a bit. Not that Clark was messaging, but the fact he was INSTANT messaging. It's as if he wrote out what he was going to say knowing what was coming. It took Kara time to type, Clark's messages came back within milliseconds. Wasn't aware he was psychic or telepathic.

Originally Posted by eggshell:
“7/10 and Melissa is still storming it !”

I remain unconvinced.

I don't get Manhunter either; he's seemingly the most powerful entity on the planet so far. He can shapeshift, he can fly (does he gain the abilities of those he morphs into, or can he fly in general?) - and is he actually from Mars? Kara said so in the episode, but then Mars isn't populated (surely if it was, someone on the show would have said something by now), and (I figure) we're to believe he's only been on Earth for 20-30 years...?
Matt D
06-01-2016
Well, he's called the Martian Manhunter for a reason!

Yes, he is from Mars. He is the last of his kind (depending on comic era), and is ultra-powerful - he has many powers like Superman's *plus* has shapeshifting and other additional abilities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_Manhunter
Flash525
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Matt D:
“Well, he's called the Martian Manhunter for a reason!

Yes, he is from Mars. He is the last of his kind (depending on comic era), and is ultra-powerful - he has many powers like Superman's *plus* has shapeshifting and other additional abilities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_Manhunter”

In the comics then, why is he the last of his kind? What happened to everyone else? How'd he get to Earth, and how long has he been there? Surely if Mars was ever a functional society, then it should be full of decayed cities, unless it was millennia ago, in which case Manhunter has been hiding out on Earth for a very long time. I wonder whether we'll see an incarnation of him in the DCCU.
Kai Thompson
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Flash525:
“Couldn't Kara have just said "well yeah, okay Kat, I am supergirl, but I also need a job, cause flying around saving people doesn't pay my bills". ”

Her job with the DEO would pay her triple that amount.
eggshell
06-01-2016
Unless I'm mistaken the one thing that confuses me is Kara using her Kryptonian name in her day job.

Bit like Clark calling himself Kal-El
Lyceum
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by eggshell:
“Unless I'm mistaken the one thing that confuses me is Kara using her Kryptonian name in her day job.

Bit like Clark calling himself Kal-El”

Kara is also a human name. Unlik Kal-El.

Also, Clark Kent was given this name as a baby. The Kent's didn't know of the name Kal-El to name him that. He was also grown before he found out his Kryptonian name. By then he was used to being called Clark.

Kara was born and partially raised on Krypton. Unlike Clark she was never given another name. She was old enough when she arrived to tell her adopted human family her name was Kara.
Matt D
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Flash525:
“In the comics then, why is he the last of his kind? What happened to everyone else? How'd he get to Earth, and how long has he been there? Surely if Mars was ever a functional society, then it should be full of decayed cities, unless it was millennia ago, in which case Manhunter has been hiding out on Earth for a very long time. I wonder whether we'll see an incarnation of him in the DCCU.”

I'm just getting this from the Wikipedia link, as I've never read any comics with MM:

Quote:
“... The series also adds to canon the idea that J'onzz was not only displaced in space but in time and the Martian race, including J'onzz's wife and daughter, has been dead for thousands of years...”

Quote:
“Ma'alefa'ak (also called Malefic) – The twin brother and archenemy of Martian Manhunter. He was created by John Ostrander and Tom Mandrake. The character first appeared in Martian Manhunter Vol 2 #0 (October 1998). The brother of J'onn J'onzz, Ma'alefa'ak was the only member of the Martian race born without telepathy and a weakness to fire. Feeling ostracized because of his genetic differences, Ma'alefa'ak was the architect of an extinction-level event. This event is known as H’ronmeer’s Curse. H’ronmeer’s Curse was a plague of fire, this curse attacked Martians via their telepathic abilities. Whenever a Martian attempted to use their telepathic gifts or commune with the Great Mind, they would fall victim to the Curse, and ultimately burn to death. With the exception of Ma'alefa'ak's brother, J'onn and himself, nearly all Green Martians on the planet died as a result of Ma'alefa'ak's handiwork. For centuries, Ma'alefa'ak continued to live in the ruins of Mars, unaware that his brother had survived the plague, and had been transported through space and time to the planet Earth. Several years ago, Ma'alefa'ak learned of J'onn's existence, and followed him back to Earth in an effort to complete the genocide of the Martian race, by destroying its last surviving son. Ma'alefa'ak has tried many times to finish his work and kill his brother J'onn but has not succeeded. Ma'alefa'ak has all the same powers as other martians except for telepathy. Ma'alefa'ak also does not have the weakness of fire like other martians do. He worships Darkseid as his God, in turn undermining the independence of Martian history, and helped to inspire the Anti-Life Equation that has cost countless lives.”

We don't know yet how closely Supergirl will follow the comics, and which era, but I think it's a safe bet that Mars in the Supergirl universe (Earth 3? ) will be a long-dead planet, with "Hank" the last Green Martian.
LostFool
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Lyceum:
“Kara is also a human name. Unlik Kal-El.”

Also, take out the vowels and you have Kr which is the chemical symbol for Krypton
Cadiva
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Flash525:
“In the comics then, why is he the last of his kind? What happened to everyone else? How'd he get to Earth, and how long has he been there? Surely if Mars was ever a functional society, then it should be full of decayed cities, unless it was millennia ago, in which case Manhunter has been hiding out on Earth for a very long time. I wonder whether we'll see an incarnation of him in the DCCU.”

Mars was decimated thousands of years ago. I can't remember the exact storyline but J'onzz has been the only surviving Martian for thousands of years and there might have been some sort of time wormhole or similar which displaced him millennia away from his original time.
Although his Silver Age version wasn't the only Martian, he'd just been pulled to Earth with experimental technology and had got stuck there and was waiting for the Martians to fetch him home. They ret-conned it later though so he was the sole survivor. He should technically be green as well, not red in his native form although they've also altered that a time or two.

He's a hugely powerful figure, I liked the fact the show actually let the viewer see just some of his capabilities, I also was quite happy that they did use him to make Cat change her mind about Kara being Supergirl. I think it would have altered the dynamic a bit too much if she did know for definite. This way there's still going to be an element of doubt but she's going to think she's imagining stuff again.

Max Lord is stepping up as well as the secret series villain, good call on those who mentioned him keeping the Red Tornado arm and using that technology and I didn't spot if that was Italia Richie or not on the gurney as they've said Silver Banshee will be debuting in episode 14 or if we're just getting "random villain No4" from him.

I did think there were some great Kara/Astra moments too but as one of the reviewer's said, Max Lord is providing more compulsive viewing as the big bad than the other Kryptonites and yet they're the ones we're supposed to feel Kara's emotional connection to. I hope they do something with that storyline cos it seems like it gets chucked in as and when they think they need to remind people of Kara's origins etc.
Matt D
08-01-2016
I wonder if the season will end with a "the enemy of my enemy..." thing with Kara, the Kryptonians, and Lord...
Cadiva
08-01-2016
Originally Posted by Matt D:
“I wonder if the season will end with a "the enemy of my enemy..." thing with Kara, the Kryptonians, and Lord...”

Aye you have to wonder where they're going with it all. It is interesting they've made him an all out villain though as he was always a bit of a grey area shady character in the comics.
James Frederick
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“Aye you have to wonder where they're going with it all. It is interesting they've made him an all out villain though as he was always a bit of a grey area shady character in the comics.”

He was a all out villain by the end he's the one who murdered Blue Beetle by shooting him in the head.
Cadiva
09-01-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“He was a all out villain by the end he's the one who murdered Blue Beetle by shooting him in the head.”

Wasn't that when he was supposedly possessed though or when he was the cyborg? They've ret-conned his origins a few times.
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