If Helen isn't great at Samba it could be 3 years on the trot for Aljaz on Halloween
Expecting a Shock Dance-Off This Week...
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Originally Posted by thatgirlsaz:
“Kirsty was due a latin and the one I think she's most likely to be decent at is the Charleston. And if she can let go, which is a big if, I think she might end up doing near what she did last week. I LOVE their music. ”
“Kirsty was due a latin and the one I think she's most likely to be decent at is the Charleston. And if she can let go, which is a big if, I think she might end up doing near what she did last week. I LOVE their music. ”
Well, I would have said the rumba would have been way better.
Kirsty and smiling (having fun)............
Based on previous dance-offs it seems that Kirsty and Jamelia have the worst audience vote, and based on this weekend's dances I can't see either of them troubling one of the contenders (but at least they won't be on the last two spots of the judges leadertable, that honour is for Jeremy and Carol).
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“I can't see Carole surviving a Rumba.”
“I can't see Carole surviving a Rumba.”
Blimey, that's what I call going all out for votes!
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“If Helen isn't great at Samba it could be 3 years on the trot for Aljaz on Halloween”
“If Helen isn't great at Samba it could be 3 years on the trot for Aljaz on Halloween”
A score of 30 (7,7,8,8) or so (between their cha cha and salsa in) should be fine to survive. In Salsa she already showed improvement in the party latin and if she gets through this then she is the only one who has had all the party latin done by week 6.
The 4 weaker celebs all have latin dances, so I can't see past a dance-off between any of those. Also, we are almost assured a latin dance-off either way.
This week will be a test to Helen's fanbase. She has the samba ....she's so stiff and her latin poor. She's a good candidate for bottom 2 this week.
Let's see if the curse of Halloween on Aljaz wears off
Helen is my candidate for shock bottom 2 this week.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I think that the samba is one of the dances that helped quite a few couples in the past land in the bottom 2 on Halloween.
....she's so stiff and her latin poor. She's a good candidate for bottom 2 this week. Let's see if the curse of Halloween on Aljaz wears off
Helen is my candidate for shock bottom 2 this week.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I think that the samba is one of the dances that helped quite a few couples in the past land in the bottom 2 on Halloween.
Hopefully her scores last week have improved her confidence a little. I don't think there'd have been a hope in hell of her doing a decent Charleston two weeks ago, but maybe now that she's done a good dance she'll be more inclined to have a bit of fun. At least she's not got the samba!
That seems to be the case. I think one of them will be in the dance off with one of Jeremy and Carol. It's all interchangeable but I'd go for Jamelia/Carol - but either way, I think we'll lose Carol or Jeremy this weekend.
That seems to be the case. I think one of them will be in the dance off with one of Jeremy and Carol. It's all interchangeable but I'd go for Jamelia/Carol - but either way, I think we'll lose Carol or Jeremy this weekend.
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“Well, I would have said the rumba would have been way better.
Kirsty and smiling (having fun)............
Based on previous dance-offs it seems that Kirsty and Jamelia have the worst audience vote, and based on this weekend's dances I can't see either of them troubling one of the contenders (but at least they won't be on the last two spots of the judges leadertable, that honour is for Jeremy and Carol).”
“Well, I would have said the rumba would have been way better.
Kirsty and smiling (having fun)............
Based on previous dance-offs it seems that Kirsty and Jamelia have the worst audience vote, and based on this weekend's dances I can't see either of them troubling one of the contenders (but at least they won't be on the last two spots of the judges leadertable, that honour is for Jeremy and Carol).”
Originally Posted by edy10:
“Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I think that the samba is one of the dances that helped quite a few couples in the past land in the bottom 2 on Halloween.”
“Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I think that the samba is one of the dances that helped quite a few couples in the past land in the bottom 2 on Halloween.”
S8 - A. Tango vs V. Waltz
S9 - Jive vs Rumba
S10 - Cha Cha vs Salsa
S11 - A. Smooth vs Rumba
S12 - A. Smooth vs Foxtrot
So...erm, no.
(Bolded is who went out)
I think Helen, Georgia, Kirsty and Carol are in the most trouble, just going on the songs. Someone else might be scuppered by the make-up or costume people. It could be Kirsty v Carol, but if they are mean to Carol, and with a rumba to that song they probably are going to be, then I think Helen v Kirsty looks very possible. I really hope not, though. I don't wish it on Georgia at all, she doesn't deserve to be in the b2, and as I've said on another thread I think she should have got the Phantom music, but I think she could handle being in the b2 and come back fighting, whereas I think Helen would take it very hard.
Jeremy's going to do the Thriller dance with a tiny bit of salsa, Craig will give him 3 and tons of people will vote for him.
Jeremy's going to do the Thriller dance with a tiny bit of salsa, Craig will give him 3 and tons of people will vote for him.
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“I can't see Carole surviving a Rumba.”
“I can't see Carole surviving a Rumba.”
She'll twirl a bit and get her face lovingly stroked by an open-shirted, sixpack flexing, barefoot Pasha who'll contort himself into all sorts of bother. They'll get the worst score, but the combination of the Pasha fans and the Tracey Bloody Sunshine fans will save them.
Originally Posted by GoinGaga:
“I think you may be right but I can't see any of the best dancers going home as it's highly likely the other dancer in the bottom two will be one of Jamelia or Kirsty IMO.”
“I think you may be right but I can't see any of the best dancers going home as it's highly likely the other dancer in the bottom two will be one of Jamelia or Kirsty IMO.”
Kirsty is the bookies fave to leave, but a lot of them are having their odds shortened of going on www.oddschecker.com and Helen's odds are getting less likely of leaving. It's not really song choice that IMHO gets you in the d/o, it's where you are in the leaderboard theat is more detrimental to how the public vote for.
Originally Posted by NotaTypo:
“She'll twirl a bit and get her face lovingly stroked by an open-shirted, sixpack flexing, barefoot Pasha who'll contort himself into all sorts o”
“She'll twirl a bit and get her face lovingly stroked by an open-shirted, sixpack flexing, barefoot Pasha who'll contort himself into all sorts o”
Sorry, I lost focus at this point, can you start again?
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“Well, I would have said the rumba would have been way better.
Kirsty and smiling (having fun)............
Based on previous dance-offs it seems that Kirsty and Jamelia have the worst audience vote, and based on this weekend's dances I can't see either of them troubling one of the contenders (but at least they won't be on the last two spots of the judges leadertable, that honour is for Jeremy and Carol).”
“Well, I would have said the rumba would have been way better.
Kirsty and smiling (having fun)............
Based on previous dance-offs it seems that Kirsty and Jamelia have the worst audience vote, and based on this weekend's dances I can't see either of them troubling one of the contenders (but at least they won't be on the last two spots of the judges leadertable, that honour is for Jeremy and Carol).”
That's what I'm thinking too.
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“My mistake, I worded wrongly. It's a shock bottom two not a shock elimination. Because God forbid a shock bottom two AND a shock elimination. The gates of hell will be opened and this forum is very likely to implode.”
“My mistake, I worded wrongly. It's a shock bottom two not a shock elimination. Because God forbid a shock bottom two AND a shock elimination. The gates of hell will be opened and this forum is very likely to implode.”
Ooh .. like Pixiegate?
I'm going to dust off my pitchfork and torch
Originally Posted by daziechain:
“Ooh .. like Pixiegate?
I'm going to dust off my pitchfork and torch”
“Ooh .. like Pixiegate?
I'm going to dust off my pitchfork and torch
”
The biggest shock will be if jeremy or carol are in the bottom 2!!
My guess is jamelia and kirsty (sadly)...although the judges will try and give jamelia a boost in the scoring this week.
Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“I think Helen, Georgia, Kirsty and Carol are in the most trouble, just going on the songs. Someone else might be scuppered by the make-up or costume people. It could be Kirsty v Carol, but if they are mean to Carol, and with a rumba to that song they probably are going to be, then I think Helen v Kirsty looks very possible. I really hope not, though. I don't wish it on Georgia at all, she doesn't deserve to be in the b2, and as I've said on another thread I think she should have got the Phantom music, but I think she could handle being in the b2 and come back fighting, whereas I think Helen would take it very hard. ”
“I think Helen, Georgia, Kirsty and Carol are in the most trouble, just going on the songs. Someone else might be scuppered by the make-up or costume people. It could be Kirsty v Carol, but if they are mean to Carol, and with a rumba to that song they probably are going to be, then I think Helen v Kirsty looks very possible. I really hope not, though. I don't wish it on Georgia at all, she doesn't deserve to be in the b2, and as I've said on another thread I think she should have got the Phantom music, but I think she could handle being in the b2 and come back fighting, whereas I think Helen would take it very hard. ”
How would Jamelia top Helen and Georgia in either vote
With a Jive of all dances
Fine that some people dislike (/fear) Helen that much, but her latin has been pretty good. On the girls side only Kellie has done better at the moment. And since Helen is always a few beats ahead of Anita, I think that she should be able to score at least 30 points with it (for reference, SEB scored 31 points with her week 3 samba and I consider Helen to be the far better latin dancer out of those two).
As for Georgia, she should also be save as her Tango might not score that much (Craig has yet to give her an 8) but surely better then either Jamelia or Kirsty.
Purely based on dances (without any training clips) this will probably be judges order on Saturday:
1. Jay
2. Kellie
3. Anita
4. Helen
5. Peter
6. Georgia
7. Katie
8. Kirsty
9. Jamelia
10. Carol
11. Jeremy
(assuming no ties)
P.S. Also keep in mind that probably Jay, Anita and Katie get the most audience votes, so Carol and Jeremy are probably only 4th and 5th on that vote at most (or they might even be lower this week). Without ties it would be much harder for them to climb up the ranking.
Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“There's an interview with Aljaz where he says he's always been in the b2 for Halloween. So here's hoping it will be third time lucky for him, as I think it would knock Helen's confidence badly, even if she'd be saved against almost everyone.
Presumably - we'll know soon - Kirsty and Carol will both have latin dances, which have been tougher for them in the past. So it's possible they'll be the b2 - I think Carol fans will start feeling she's done enough soon, as long as the judges aren't mean to her.
I think Halloween is a very random one for the vote because I think most of us are hugely influenced by the costume and make-up - if you hate the make-up and/or song it's very hard to see past that. Georgia might be in trouble, that song doesn't have a good track record, but I think she's probably quite popular.”
“There's an interview with Aljaz where he says he's always been in the b2 for Halloween. So here's hoping it will be third time lucky for him, as I think it would knock Helen's confidence badly, even if she'd be saved against almost everyone.
Presumably - we'll know soon - Kirsty and Carol will both have latin dances, which have been tougher for them in the past. So it's possible they'll be the b2 - I think Carol fans will start feeling she's done enough soon, as long as the judges aren't mean to her.
I think Halloween is a very random one for the vote because I think most of us are hugely influenced by the costume and make-up - if you hate the make-up and/or song it's very hard to see past that. Georgia might be in trouble, that song doesn't have a good track record, but I think she's probably quite popular.”
No it won't happen. Helen is one of the strongest dancers this year and believe it or not she's very popular with the public and Call The Midwife is one of the most popular shows too
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“How would Jamelia top Helen and Georgia in either vote
With a Jive of all dances
Fine that some people dislike (/fear) Helen that much, but her latin has been pretty good. On the girls side only Kellie has done better at the moment. And since Helen is always a few beats ahead of Anita, I think that she should be able to score at least 30 points with it (for reference, SEB scored 31 points with her week 3 samba and I consider Helen to be the far better latin dancer out of those two).
As for Georgia, she should also be save as her Tango might not score that much (Craig has yet to give her an 8) but surely better then either Jamelia or Kirsty.
Purely based on dances (without any training clips) this will probably be judges order on Saturday:
1. Jay
2. Kellie
3. Anita
4. Helen
5. Peter
6. Georgia
7. Katie
8. Kirsty
9. Jamelia
10. Carol
11. Jeremy
(assuming no ties)
P.S. Also keep in mind that probably Jay, Anita and Katie get the most audience votes, so Carol and Jeremy are probably only 4th and 5th on that vote at most (or they might even be lower this week). Without ties it would be much harder for them to climb up the ranking.”
“How would Jamelia top Helen and Georgia in either vote
With a Jive of all dances
Fine that some people dislike (/fear) Helen that much, but her latin has been pretty good. On the girls side only Kellie has done better at the moment. And since Helen is always a few beats ahead of Anita, I think that she should be able to score at least 30 points with it (for reference, SEB scored 31 points with her week 3 samba and I consider Helen to be the far better latin dancer out of those two).
As for Georgia, she should also be save as her Tango might not score that much (Craig has yet to give her an 8) but surely better then either Jamelia or Kirsty.
Purely based on dances (without any training clips) this will probably be judges order on Saturday:
1. Jay
2. Kellie
3. Anita
4. Helen
5. Peter
6. Georgia
7. Katie
8. Kirsty
9. Jamelia
10. Carol
11. Jeremy
(assuming no ties)
P.S. Also keep in mind that probably Jay, Anita and Katie get the most audience votes, so Carol and Jeremy are probably only 4th and 5th on that vote at most (or they might even be lower this week). Without ties it would be much harder for them to climb up the ranking.”
Helen has the Samba this week, she is too stiff for this party dance, I really believe she won't get a great score from the Judges.
If there's going to be a shock for the bottom two this week, Helen is the prime candidate.
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“Helen has the Samba this week, she is too stiff for this party dance, I really believe she won't get a great score from the Judges.
If there's going to be a shock for the bottom two this week, Helen is the prime candidate.”
“Helen has the Samba this week, she is too stiff for this party dance, I really believe she won't get a great score from the Judges.
If there's going to be a shock for the bottom two this week, Helen is the prime candidate.”
Helen is very good at both ballroom and Latin. She has amazing hips. Samba will suit her personality
Originally Posted by edy10:
“This week will be a test to Helen's fanbase. She has the samba....she's so stiff and her latin poor. She's a good candidate for bottom 2 this week.
Let's see if the curse of Halloween on Aljaz wears off
Helen is my candidate for shock bottom 2 this week.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I think that the samba is one of the dances that helped quite a few couples in the past land in the bottom 2 on Halloween.”
“This week will be a test to Helen's fanbase. She has the samba
....she's so stiff and her latin poor. She's a good candidate for bottom 2 this week. Let's see if the curse of Halloween on Aljaz wears off
Helen is my candidate for shock bottom 2 this week.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I think that the samba is one of the dances that helped quite a few couples in the past land in the bottom 2 on Halloween.”
Nope she won't she has a very big fan base with CTM. How can you tell when you haven't seen any of her dance yet. Seriously
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“If Helen isn't great at Samba it could be 3 years on the trot for Aljaz on Halloween”
“If Helen isn't great at Samba it could be 3 years on the trot for Aljaz on Halloween”
She will be great. She's great at everything
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“Helen has the Samba this week, she is too stiff for this party dance, I really believe she won't get a great score from the Judges.
If there's going to be a shock for the bottom two this week, Helen is the prime candidate.”
“Helen has the Samba this week, she is too stiff for this party dance, I really believe she won't get a great score from the Judges.
If there's going to be a shock for the bottom two this week, Helen is the prime candidate.”
LOL, have you seen SEB's Samba for instance? Think that Helen should do better then that.
Ah well, we will see. Mind you, Anita (who is great at latin, some say) only has a 6 from Craig in party latin, while Helen has an 8.
Sometimes I think that people confuse their own opinions on the celeb with the actual scoring (from the judges). To those I say, do not bet on anything.
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“How would Jamelia top Helen and Georgia in either vote
With a Jive of all dances
Fine that some people dislike (/fear) Helen that much, but her latin has been pretty good. On the girls side only Kellie has done better at the moment. And since Helen is always a few beats ahead of Anita, I think that she should be able to score at least 30 points with it (for reference, SEB scored 31 points with her week 3 samba and I consider Helen to be the far better latin dancer out of those two).
As for Georgia, she should also be save as her Tango might not score that much (Craig has yet to give her an 8) but surely better then either Jamelia or Kirsty.
Purely based on dances (without any training clips) this will probably be judges order on Saturday:
1. Jay
2. Kellie
3. Anita
4. Helen
5. Peter
6. Georgia
7. Katie
8. Kirsty
9. Jamelia
10. Carol
11. Jeremy
(assuming no ties)
P.S. Also keep in mind that probably Jay, Anita and Katie get the most audience votes, so Carol and Jeremy are probably only 4th and 5th on that vote at most (or they might even be lower this week). Without ties it would be much harder for them to climb up the ranking.”
“How would Jamelia top Helen and Georgia in either vote
With a Jive of all dances
Fine that some people dislike (/fear) Helen that much, but her latin has been pretty good. On the girls side only Kellie has done better at the moment. And since Helen is always a few beats ahead of Anita, I think that she should be able to score at least 30 points with it (for reference, SEB scored 31 points with her week 3 samba and I consider Helen to be the far better latin dancer out of those two).
As for Georgia, she should also be save as her Tango might not score that much (Craig has yet to give her an 8) but surely better then either Jamelia or Kirsty.
Purely based on dances (without any training clips) this will probably be judges order on Saturday:
1. Jay
2. Kellie
3. Anita
4. Helen
5. Peter
6. Georgia
7. Katie
8. Kirsty
9. Jamelia
10. Carol
11. Jeremy
(assuming no ties)
P.S. Also keep in mind that probably Jay, Anita and Katie get the most audience votes, so Carol and Jeremy are probably only 4th and 5th on that vote at most (or they might even be lower this week). Without ties it would be much harder for them to climb up the ranking.”
I don't dislike or fear Helen, I like her and usually vote for her. But if she's ever going to be in trouble then I think samba to Scissors Sisters is about as difficult as it will get for her. I can like someone and worry about them. I hope she'll sail through.
Kirsty improved so much last weekend it would be interesting to see if she can improve further.
Jeremy Vine has reached his limit. Carol also, I believe. Judging from last weekend performances Kirsty, Jamelia (in her dance off), and I think Jay have shown the greatest progress and improvement from week 1.
Jeremy Vine has reached his limit. Carol also, I believe. Judging from last weekend performances Kirsty, Jamelia (in her dance off), and I think Jay have shown the greatest progress and improvement from week 1.
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