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Disturbing theory about what Gavin did to Phil...
Think he could have raped him or had him raped?
Makes sense, Phil's been beaten up and held hostage etc before and it hasn't effected him that badly. Male rape is one of the few issues EE haven't tackled head on and it wouldn't be expected of someone like Phil. Since Phil's casually fairly homophobic (or at least OTT macho) and if you remember Phil actually did except Ben's sexuality when he originally came out, why has he backtracked? And the final clue in the theory...That's why he's now so anti Ben being gay. Because being raped has effected him and he now hates the thought of male on male contact. A bit like when Linda was raped, she assumed every man and woman that were kissing was a rape. Could be the same for Phil, thinking about Ben and Paul? I really hope not tbh but it'd be quite some twist. |
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And the final clue in the theory...That's why he's now so anti Ben being gay. Because being raped has effected him and he now hates the thought of male on male contact.
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I really hope this is not the case, Sharon's dad raping her husband would be too far fetched for me.
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There has been many threads about of this...
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I knew someone would make this thread
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Well apparently previous producers wanted to do a male rape storyline but BBC blocked it. If this is what has happened perhaps it will just be implied (as with Dean in prison) and we won't get the exact specific details.
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I thought the exact same thing! Thank goodness I'm not the only one!
I think this is what's driven him back to the drink and Phil could definitely handle this sort of SL...interesting. |
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I don't think it's rape, they have not long had the SL with Linda, I know it would be different but I don't think it's that.
I think it's obvious he was tortured, it could be that they injected drugs and forced alcohol into him, this was why he couldn't escape sooner he was high on drugs. It has clearly shaken him, probably because he wasn't in control. |
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Well apparently previous producers wanted to do a male rape storyline but BBC blocked it. If this is what has happened perhaps it will just be implied (as with Dean in prison) and we won't get the exact specific details.
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It may not of been rape, maybe sexual assault?
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Also, does anyone think the Hubbards know Gavin from the past? Claudette promised that Phil would get what's coming to him, after he beat up Vincent. Who's to say she didn't arrange this? Or at least had a hand in it.
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It may not of been rape, maybe sexual assault?
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I just think he was tortured and beaten every day for weeks. That's enough to turn anyone to the booze.
and Phil did not accept Ben when Ben originally came out. When Ben told Phil he was gay, Phil burst into tears and did a runner. Weeks later, he arrived back and was asking Ben if there was any girls he was interested in. Then when he discovered that Lexi was Ben's daughter, he came up with an idea for him and Lola to marry once Ben is released. He hasn't backtracked at all. I think Phil's anger with Ben is just that Ben has resorted to lying, sneaking around and cheating on Abi. |
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I think it's important to to mention that Phil wasn't a random target . Gavin knows him through Kathy and they would have had conversations about him over the years of their marriage as he's Ben's father . It's a lot easier to hurt somebody psychologically if you know their weaknesses and which buttons to press.
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There has been many threads about of this...
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If they really do go this route with Phil, it explains why Kathy keeps saying "you don't know what Gavin's like".
Are they setting him up to be worse than Archie? |
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It may not of been rape, maybe sexual assault?
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If they really do go this route with Phil, it explains why Kathy keeps saying "you don't know what Gavin's like".
Are they setting him up to be worse than Archie? |
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If they really do go this route with Phil, it explains why Kathy keeps saying "you don't know what Gavin's like".
Are they setting him up to be worse than Archie? |
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I think Gavin has forced Phil to drink and that is why he his addiction has returned and he is still craving it now and he has taunted him about something from his childhood, to do with his father perhaps which could help mentally break him? On top of that the beatings and being locked up for all that time could break the 'Indestructible King Philth'. In an interview with Gillian Taylforth she said that Gavin knows everybodys weaknesses and can break them. Alcohol, Crack and his Father and Phil's weaknesses. Being raped is horrific but it would affect anyone in a huge way, not just specifically Phil.
Also Phil has never really accepted Ben's sexuality, just ignored it at times. |
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I think it's important to to mention that Phil wasn't a random target . Gavin knows him through Kathy and they would have had conversations about him over the years of their marriage as he's Ben's father . It's a lot easier to hurt somebody psychologically if you know their weaknesses and which buttons to press.
That's why I think they probably forced alcohol or drugs or both into him knowing the problems he has had in the past. |
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Did anyone think Phil seemed to be motioning towards a certain body part? Its probably too extreme for Eastenders but maybe Gavin let him believe he was going to be castrated? It could have been more mental as surely the doctors would have noticed anything physical in that area?
I know its not the most pleasant image but... |
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Also Phil has never really accepted Ben's sexuality, just ignored it at times. |
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Did anyone think Phil seemed to be motioning towards a certain body part? Its probably too extreme for Eastenders but maybe Gavin let him believe he was going to be castrated? It could have been more mental as surely the doctors would have noticed anything physical in that area?
I know its not the most pleasant image but... |
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