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I can see Ben moving in with Kathy very soon...


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Old 27-10-2015, 21:48
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p035qsl6

I wouldn't let my Dad speak to me like that anyway...

I can see Ben turning his back on Phil, and Phil's drinking then spiralling out of control, once again.
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Old 27-10-2015, 22:01
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Proably going to happen.
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Old 27-10-2015, 22:03
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Proably going to happen.
I've always thought it.

Ben will be able to be himself more around his mother. I don't know why he bothers hiding the fact he is gay from his Dad, when Phil clearly know anyway. It's all a bit pointless really.
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Old 27-10-2015, 22:18
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I never got the 'recoming out' either, I guess in prison he was forced to hide it then repressed it so he hated himself for it maybe?
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Old 27-10-2015, 23:48
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Well , Phil was never accepting , he tolerated it because he didn't have a choice . Then Ben ends up in prison , probably not the best place to be openly gay .It's not just Phil who has a problem , it's Ben too and they are playing into each others fears .
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Old 27-10-2015, 23:52
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seen the preview for thurdays episode, phil is different gavins really messed him up.
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Old 28-10-2015, 00:56
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The sooner he realises it's time to escape the Philths clutches the better imo. Some people have expressed how they think Phil is decent deep down, I however, don't think Phil has any redeeming features whatsoever and will never be a suitable father for anybody. Time to go to mummy Ben
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