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Old 28-10-2015, 12:03
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will we love her as she grows old and prove the ageist music industry theory wrong? Or will we ditch her as soon as she hits 40 and tell her to put it away and move onto the next young bit of flesh?

I see a lot of people don't care about some of the older artists that used to be big - East 17, Tina Arena, etc
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Old 28-10-2015, 12:51
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No, but it's not Adele's fault. The music business and the nature of stardom has changed so much since the 80's and 90's when Madonna, Whitney and Kylie became icons. With social media, artists get overexposed and blow up quickly and people get sick of them faster.

It's sad that the music industry doesn't really create superstars and icons like it used to Everything and everyone is do disposable now.
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Old 28-10-2015, 12:58
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She's never relied on the usual pop girls tactics of sex and shock so there's every chance she will continue to be very popular as she gets older. It's always been about the music. But I'm not sure Adele would want to carry on with the fame thing into her dotage. She doesn't even like it now.
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Old 28-10-2015, 13:11
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i don't really understand the question. Madonna & Kylie aren't as big as Madonna & Kylie at 50, and Whitney didn't make it to 50. Or are you asking if she will decline in popularity like they have?

who knows anyway, let's see how this album does first. It might fall flat after a few weeks or it might turn out that 21 was a mere prelude
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Old 28-10-2015, 16:35
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They all have completely different markets so appeal to different genre's, thats why Lady Gaga bombed after a massively successful era whereas Adele looks set to repeat everything, and maybe more, she did with 21. Adele has a massive cross market appeal to all ages. Unless this changes she will continue to sell by the bucket load.

One question though, Kylie big at 50? when did anything recently from her make an impact? granted Madonna isn't selling either but the Rebel Heart Tour is going to be her most successful which is a credit to the fact Madonna can still earn millions every night. Kylie and her fans could only wish for that tbh.
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Old 28-10-2015, 16:49
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i don't really understand the question. Madonna & Kylie aren't as big as Madonna & Kylie at 50, and Whitney didn't make it to 50. Or are you asking if she will decline in popularity like they have?

who knows anyway, let's see how this album does first. It might fall flat after a few weeks or it might turn out that 21 was a mere prelude
Yup. Except about the falling flat part. Maybe after 10m ww.
Wonder if that would be considered a flop after 21?
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Old 28-10-2015, 17:16
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Yup. Except about the falling flat part. Maybe after 10m ww.
Wonder if that would be considered a flop after 21?
yeah that's kind of what i mean, after the first 10m It's obviously going to impact like a meteorite and leave a crater the size of Belgium somewhere, but beyond that we don't know what it'll do.
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Old 28-10-2015, 18:33
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A lot of older artists like Madonna for example stay in the spotlight for their tours. That may be hard for Adele due to the type of singing she does which is very hard on your voice. She's already had a problem with vocal polyps.

Kylie may not be as big as she used to be, but she still releases albums regularly and has a following. It's not like she has completely disappeared from the music scene which I think is what the OP meant.
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Old 28-10-2015, 19:34
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I think she will be more like Annie Lennox - resepected, occasional success but mostly out of the public eye.
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Old 28-10-2015, 19:53
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will we love her as she grows old and prove the ageist music industry theory wrong? Or will we ditch her as soon as she hits 40 and tell her to put it away and move onto the next young bit of flesh?

I see a lot of people don't care about some of the older artists that used to be big - East 17, Tina Arena, etc
...and this is the biggest flaw in the OP.

Adele has never relied on showing off her flesh to create a career in the music industry. Her voice does all the work for her.

Adele also has a warmth about her. She is more than just a powerhouse vocalist. She has a brilliant personality and it's her down to earth nature that people love.

So in short, yes I think if Adele is still making music in 20 years from now there will be an audience waiting to hear it.

OT; East 17? How can you compare Adele to a boyband from the mid 90s?
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Old 28-10-2015, 20:13
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Comparing her to Tina Arena? Who had one big hit twenty years ago. And East 17? Who ruined their career when Brian Harvey made his E comments!! Bad examples. Adele will be like Annie Lennox and Kate Bush in the future.
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Old 28-10-2015, 22:20
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I would be intrigued to see if Adele proves to be as innovative as Kate Bush.
Much as I like 'Hello', it's not a major departure from '21'.

Dido was a major selling artist not that long ago but she didn't really manage to maintain her success, there's no guarantee of sustained success.
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Old 28-10-2015, 22:33
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She isn't selling sex or controversy so as long as her voice remains strong and she retains the ability to touch people with her music, then she'll remain successful. The insane levels of hype she generates currently will probably die down but she can still do well and hit the top of the album charts, especially as fans grow older as well and continue to empathise with the themes of her songs. Of course, we don't know what will happen in years to come; she may give it up to be a mother, she mightn't develop enough musically to keep people interested etc. but I reckon she'll be just fine.

She's also been smart with her choices. 21 was massive and was followed up with Skyfall so her music was everywhere for two years but she wasn't too much in the public eye herself in terms of news/magazine/showbiz coverage. Then she disappeared for three years to have a life for a bit. Although she's back and she's everywhere, she don't feel overexposed.
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Old 28-10-2015, 22:34
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I would be intrigued to see if Adele proves to be as innovative as Kate Bush.
Much as I like 'Hello', it's not a major departure from '21'.

Dido was a major selling artist not that long ago but she didn't really manage to maintain her success, there's no guarantee of sustained success.
I'm not too sure. Obviously none of us know what the future is going to hold. Otherwise I'd have done the lottery and won the £100 million rollover by now.

Dido really only became successful thanks to Eminem sampling her single Thank You on his track Stan. Otherwise Dido would've remained one of those artists who had a casual but not spectacular fanbase.

Adele hasn't had to be sampled on a US rappers global smash to gain attention. Her Brit Awards performance was a major turning point. Also **to all Dido fans please exit this thread now ** Dido's voice is quite boring to listen to. I know I wouldn't have been able to listen to Life For Rent in its entirety. Here's a comparison - Sam Smith. I don't see Sam Smith still being this successful in 20 years time, whereas I actually can with Adele.
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Old 28-10-2015, 22:42
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I'm not too sure. Obviously none of us know what the future is going to hold. Otherwise I'd have done the lottery and won the £100 million rollover by now.

Dido really only became successful thanks to Eminem sampling her single Thank You on his track Stan. Otherwise Dido would've remained one of those artists who had a casual but not spectacular fanbase.

Adele hasn't had to be sampled on a US rappers global smash to gain attention. Her Brit Awards performance was a major turning point. Also **to all Dido fans please exit this thread now ** Dido's voice is quite boring to listen to. I know I wouldn't have been able to listen to Life For Rent in its entirety. Here's a comparison - Sam Smith. I don't see Sam Smith still being this successful in 20 years time, whereas I actually can with Adele.
Sam Smith to me is like a substitute teacher - he and Sandé were in to cover when the head teacher was out on maternity but now that Adele is back, they can shuffle off til she needs another break.
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Old 29-10-2015, 04:53
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Sam Smith to me is like a substitute teacher - he and Sandé were in to cover when the head teacher was out on maternity but now that Adele is back, they can shuffle off til she needs another break.
Yep. Sam Smith knows he is on borrowed time. That's why he's pumping out a rerelease just in time for the holiday push (and before 25 is out). "A present to his fans". Lol. So it's free?
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Old 29-10-2015, 07:51
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Comparing her to Tina Arena? Who had one big hit twenty years ago. And East 17? Who ruined their career when Brian Harvey made his E comments!! Bad examples. Adele will be like Annie Lennox and Kate Bush in the future.
Just proves the op is just another bloody WUM, with no idea.
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Old 29-10-2015, 08:25
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I don't think she's a Madona. I've always seen her as a contemporary Dido or Norah Jones. Don't forget the enormous success Dido had with No ANgel. SHe was literally everywhere and THE staple play at any middle class dinner party.

Adele really occupies that ground. However, I can see that she has transcended these artists a bit and will always have her own niche.

She is a star, but is she a star in the vein of Michael Jackson or Madonna at the height of their fame? No I don't think so.
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Old 29-10-2015, 09:00
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Maybe kate bush status
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Old 29-10-2015, 17:18
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People keep going on about ageism in the music industry, but it's only a problem when it comes to the Top 40 and radio plays. Barbra Streisand is 73 years old, but her last album sold over 300,000 copies in the UK and over a million copies in the US. Annie Lennox's last album has sold over 100,000 copies in the UK, and Celine Dion's last album has sold 300,000 copies. Vera Lynn hit number one on the album chart a few years ago. I can understand why older acts find it hard getting a hit on the Top 40 singles chart, but I wish people would stop using ageism as an excuse as to why their favourite pop star underperforms on the album chart. Madonna fans need to accept that her single and album sales have sucked in the UK for years now. MDNA has only sold 135,000 copies in nearly four years.

21 by Adele was bigger than anything released by Madonna:

1. None of Madonna's studio albums have sold anywhere near the 4.7 million copies that 21 has sold in the UK in just five years. Her highest selling studio album in the UK has sold 1.9 million copies and it has taken 30 years for it to sell that much.

2. Adele had two million-selling singles in the UK during the 21 era, but Madonna's never had one in her entire career.

3. Adele had three number one singles on the Hot 100 during the 21 era, something Madonna has never achieved (Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston have).

4. 21 has sold over 11 million copies in the US in five years, none of Madonna's albums have sold that many copies.

5. Even during the height of Madonna's career in the 1980s, none of her studio albums sold over 30 million copies worldwide like 21 has. True Blue is her highest selling studio album with sales of 25 million copies in nearly 30 years. 21 has sold over 30 million copies in just five years. The Immaculate Collection has sold 30 million copies worldwide, but it's taken 25 years to do it.

The Immaculate Collection is Madonna's highest selling album in the UK and worldwide, but it's a greatest hits album, not a studio album. Some fans claim that it's sold over 40 million copies worldwide, but there's no proof (fan "receipts" don't count) nor has there been an announcement by her record label. If it had sold 40 million copies, its sales wouldn't be down as 30 million, it wouldn't be missing ten million sales. Madonna fans are just desperate for her to topple the colossal 45 million copies that The Bodyguard by Whitney Houston has sold. It won't....ever.

I'm not expecting Adele to continue selling 4.7 million copies of every album she releases, but I don't think it's unrealistic to predict that she will surpass Madonna's UK album sales at some point in the next 10-20 years. Adele has sold nearly seven million albums in the UK with just two releases in seven years, 25 will probably her up total album sales to 9-10 million by the end of 2016, that's already over half what Madonna has sold in 32 years. Let's face it, Madonna is hardly selling albums in vast quantities anymore, Rebel Heart has only sold 70,000 copies so far and fell out of the chart in May. And before anyone starts arguing about the leak, the demos leaked, not the final album. Who knows if Adele will be having number one hit singles in 30 years, but I have a feeling she'll be fine if she isn't.

Hello has achieved 130 million views in one week whereas Bitch I'm Madonna has had the same number of views in four months and only because of the celebrities in it. Adele is the queen of the industry now.
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Old 29-10-2015, 18:06
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and ne'er mind Madonna, the way she's going she could eclipse The f***ing Beatles (in sales that is). If 25 gives 21 much of a push, Sgt Pepper will be in it's sights. Sgt bleedin' Pepper, one of the cornerstones of British pop culture by our biggest ever band, which has had half a century of sales behind it......that Sgt Pepper. And Adele is doing this in the times when we keep being told nobody is buying albums anymore

whatever Adele is, Dido she aint
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Old 29-10-2015, 22:12
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I forgot three things:

21 won Adele seven Grammy Awards in 2012 and 2013 including Album, Song and Record of the Year. Madonna has won seven Grammy Awards in 32 years, but none of them include Album or Record of the Year. She has never received a nomination for Song of the Year. Like Adele, Whitney Houston won Album and Record of the Year.

Wikipedia has both Adele and Madonna listed under the best-selling digital singles of all time. Rolling in the Deep has sold 14 million copies and Hung Up, Madonna's highest selling single, has sold nine million copies worldwide.

Madonna still hasn't been nominated for an Oscar despite the fact that some of her songs were eligible for nominations. I'll Remember, Who's That Girl, This Used to Be My Playground and Bond theme Die Another Day all missed out on nominations. Adele's Bond theme won an Oscar in 2013 whereas Madonna's received a Razzie nomination.

Just sayin'.
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Old 29-10-2015, 22:37
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and ne'er mind Madonna, the way she's going she could eclipse The f***ing Beatles (in sales that is). If 25 gives 21 much of a push, Sgt Pepper will be in it's sights. Sgt bleedin' Pepper, one of the cornerstones of British pop culture by our biggest ever band, which has had half a century of sales behind it......that Sgt Pepper. And Adele is doing this in the times when we keep being told nobody is buying albums anymore

whatever Adele is, Dido she aint
Well Adele is certainly no Beatles. Did Sgt Pepper appeal to middle class grannies in the 60's ?

I think the way it works now and why Adele is so popular is that ironically now since album sales are so low a lot of interesting artists are just not getting into the industry and the hype factor will focus on a very few artists who produce MOR granny friendly tunes. Adele is this artist. The instant hype of the internet can do this faster than was ever possible in the past.

She is a kind of Dido but has a much more powerful voice but her music is not that interesting so I don't think it will fully stand the test of time.

Not in the same way as Kate Bush who did actually do 'out of the park' off the wall interesting stuff which is still remembered to this day.

Madonna is a different kettle of fish and while she isn't my cup of tea she is interesting as she has been so successful with do many different styles and genres over the years. In this sense Adele does seem a one trick pony.

Finally I think she has to owe her success to Amy Winehouse, who she is a poor mans version of.

Amy may not have been as technically good as Adele but her music seem so much more raw fresh and relevant and hard hitting. I think we will still be looking back on Amy's back to black long after Adele has hung up her MOR microphone.
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Old 29-10-2015, 22:40
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For sure i doubt she will lose much weight till then so she will remain bigger than madonna, kyilie and whitney
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Old 29-10-2015, 22:49
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Summerheart, you will take any chance you can get to trash Madonna. Adele Is currently one of the biggest stars in the world. Madonna is a legend after 30 years in the business. THIRTY YEARS.

You aren't takign into account contemporary ways we buy and listen to music. Using youtube views really? So say if we had You Tube at the time Madonna was releasing Like A Prayer, you don't think that would have broken records?

Btw how many "youtube" clicks did the third single from Celien Dion or Barbra Streisands album get?? Oh wait.

You will use any excuse to bash madonna and no one other than you knwos why. Very bitter, sad person. However, none of this will change the simple fact, that Madonna remains not only the best selling female artist of all time, but the best selling grossing solo tour of all time as well as being a cultural icon.

Stop being so vindictive. Life is not all that bad.
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