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HO Diane question
OrigCoolKid
29-10-2015
Sorry if this has already been discussed in a different thread but I'm really confused about this. Diane's nephew (forgotten the irrelevant character's name) said in a recent Hollyoaks episode that Diane abandoned him when he was younger after she got into a romance. But when she first arrived on Hollyoaks with her ex-husband Rob wasn't it revealed that he started dating her when he was a teacher and she was his 15 year old pupil!?

Surely Diane wouldn't have been in any way responsible for the nephew when she was only 15 years of age!? When she first arrived on screen her backstory was that she was very loyal to Rob and helped to raise his children, so I don't get this affair either...

...absolutely bizzare!
mystery23
29-10-2015
Lol that's Hollyoaks for you. No continuity at all
srhgts
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by OrigCoolKid:
“Sorry if this has already been discussed in a different thread but I'm really confused about this. Diane's nephew (forgotten the irrelevant character's name) said in a recent Hollyoaks episode that Diane abandoned him when he was younger after she got into a romance. But when she first arrived on Hollyoaks with her ex-husband Rob wasn't it revealed that he started dating her when he was a teacher and she was his 15 year old pupil!?

Surely Diane wouldn't have been in any way responsible for the nephew when she was only 15 years of age!? When she first arrived on screen her backstory was that she was very loyal to Rob and helped to raise his children, so I don't get this affair either...

...absolutely bizzare!”

Good point, you're absolutely right. It's clearly yet another continuity mistake. Hardly surprising coming from the show that decided Diane and Tegan's babies were swapped at birth even though they gave birth miles away from each other.
vkmax
29-10-2015
I thought they were in the beds next to each other?

Yeah The O'Connors have been written pretty badly from day one. Rob was this lovely doting fun father and Diane was somewhat unstable (remember the FIRST time she stole a baby?) then they decided to cut that storyline with Amber so they edited the 4 weeks of material in to one very weird episode and then wrote Rob out (this was not planned he had a long story ahead).

Rob was then made out to actually be a paedophile thanks to the Diane thing which seemed to drastically change their ages. Sineads real Mum appeared and told her Finn was a donor baby but this two week storyline was never ever mentioned again by a single character.

Finn was invisible for 6 months before leaving without an exit and returning with a new head whilst Rob had become a neglectful father. Diane was then fertile enough to concieve twins from a one-night stand and Sinead went from being the teen with her head screwed on who used to stick up for people to being a bullying prostitute and homewrecking liar by the ripe old age of 19.

Dianes double standards have remained in continuity because she is the judgiest person that isn't Frankie Osborne and yet she's slept with two people husbands behind their backs including her own family and she's stolen TWO babies soooo....Sit down Diane.
spikewoman
29-10-2015
So is Scott Diane's blood nephew as in the son of her sister or something? That would make Scott and Sinead step cousins instead of blood related but doesn't preclude them being close.

As daft as Scott is I'm glad we're getting a bit of a back story to him now and a bit less one dimensional.
Baban
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by vkmax:
“I thought they were in the beds next to each other?

Yeah The O'Connors have been written pretty badly from day one. Rob was this lovely doting fun father and Diane was somewhat unstable (remember the FIRST time she stole a baby?) then they decided to cut that storyline with Amber so they edited the 4 weeks of material in to one very weird episode and then wrote Rob out (this was not planned he had a long story ahead).

Rob was then made out to actually be a paedophile thanks to the Diane thing which seemed to drastically change their ages. Sineads real Mum appeared and told her Finn was a donor baby but this two week storyline was never ever mentioned again by a single character.

Finn was invisible for 6 months before leaving without an exit and returning with a new head whilst Rob had become a neglectful father. Diane was then fertile enough to concieve twins from a one-night stand and Sinead went from being the teen with her head screwed on who used to stick up for people to being a bullying prostitute and homewrecking liar by the ripe old age of 19.

Dianes double standards have remained in continuity because she is the judgiest person that isn't Frankie Osborne and yet she's slept with two people husbands behind their backs including her own family and she's stolen TWO babies soooo....Sit down Diane.”

Couldn't have put it better myself
Anna_W
29-10-2015
I think Scott is Diane's sister son, her actually blood related relative, rather then adoptive one , like Sinead and Finn. It looks like Diane had an affair with her sister's husband, Scott's dad. If her sister is bit older then her and Diane was in her twenties at time, ( How old is Scott? Twenty-something) so romance happened 10-15 years ago. It makes sense. A bit stretch , but possible.
dubgaz
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by Anna_W:
“I think Scott is Diane's sister son, her actually blood related relative, rather then adoptive one , like Sinead and Finn. It looks like Diane had an affair with her sister's husband, Scott's dad. If her sister is bit older then her and Diane was in her twenties at time, ( How old is Scott? Twenty-something) so romance happened 10-15 years ago. It makes sense. A bit stretch , but possible.”

Diane was with Finn and Sineads father since she was 15 though.
Anna_W
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by dubgaz:
“Diane was with Finn and Sineads father since she was 15 though.”

Yes, but she had an affair while married to Rob, Sinead and Finn's dad .
Brekkie
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by srhgts:
“Good point, you're absolutely right. It's clearly yet another continuity mistake. Hardly surprising coming from the show that decided Diane and Tegan's babies were swapped at birth even though they gave birth miles away from each other.”

Think they were in the same hospital but it was on location (Southport I think), though when they investigated it they switched it to Hollyoaks Hospital of Horrors.
Dr K Noisewater
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by Anna_W:
“Yes, but she had an affair while married to Rob, Sinead and Finn's dad .”

The dates don't add up though. Scott recalled being very close to Diane as a child but they lost touch when his parents split up and he was sent to live with his gran at which point Diane 'became too preoccupied with her new fella' and forgot about him. That implies his parents separation and her affair with his dad occurred before she met Rob. Also Diane is exactly the same age as Tony (remember that flashback to them as kids together) and Tony was born 1977 - this has remained consistent since the show started. So that would have made Diane 15 in 1992 so she got together with Rob 23 years ago. So that means that all these events Scott has vividly described occurred more than 23 years ago. I don't believe he's meant to be that old.

They have clearly altered Scott's backstory. He was introduced as Sinead's cousin not as Diane's nephew. He came solely to see Sinead - his cousin - he barely interacted with Diane at all. Its obvious he was meant to be Sinead's blood related cousin but now Stephanie Davis has been axed in order to keep him in the show and remain relevant they made him Diane's nephew instead and hoped nobody would notice.
kitkat1971
30-10-2015
I'm not sure it was obvious he was meant to be Sinead's blood relative rather than Dian'e when introduced. All 3 of them are Scouse fog horns so hard to tell that way!

Diane got with Rob very soon after Finn was born didn't she so about 18 years ago when Sinead was still preschool. I think Scott is early 20s at most. So, he has known wither Diand or Sinead since he was a kid and will know both as his Auntie or Cousin from that time, whichever the blood link is. I know with my family, although as an adult I know which the blood relative is, i didn't when i was little and they are Aunty/Uncle, blood or not. It isn't Uncle Sid and Rose who is only part of my family by marriage. It is Aunty Rose and always has been.

Diane might still have been a good sister and aunt after getting with Rob but then lost interest/cut off when she had an extra marital affair with her brother in law, Scott's Dad maybe 10-15 years ago?

There is no reason to presume that 'the fella' is Rob or even if it was, that she hadn't been with him before that. Scott was a kid after all so maybe not having the best understanding and liable to believe whatever his Mum, Dad, and Gran told him as to Diane's 'abandonment'.
srhgts
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Think they were in the same hospital but it was on location (Southport I think), though when they investigated it they switched it to Hollyoaks Hospital of Horrors.”

Ah fair enough. I had thought Tegan had been at Dee Valley and Diane in the Southport one.
vkmax
30-10-2015
It's fairly easy to make sense of a timeline...

Diane is born in 1977 so she's 15 in 1992 when she meets Rob. Sinead was born in 1995.

Now we know Diane and Rob started getting together in 1992 or at least got together but it was never explicitly stated that they begun a relationship (because there'd have been a far bigger deal made if the'd have set up home with him at that age) plus Sinead wasn't born.

It's perfectly logical that something happened with them whilst she was at school and then she got with him later. I recall conversation where Diane told Sinead she'd been with her since she was three years old (so 1998) which would place Diane as being 21 when she began a full relationship with Rob that would leave plenty of time for her to have had an affair with Scotts Dad. Scott I'd place around Ste's age or maybe a bit older. Definitely at least 24/25 and he's also said that she was pre-occupied with her new family but he doesn't state that they got together and she instantly disappeared.

It would actually make perfect sense if she was having an affair with him whilst she was with Rob and decided to end it therefore seperating herself from the family because of it.
lulu g
30-10-2015
I must have missed this mention of Diane having an affair. All I remember is that Scott's mother was Diane's sister and had a drink problem, so Diane looked after him. Isn't that right?
qwertye
30-10-2015
This thread has just confused me even more, this twist makes no sense unless they're planning to say Diane was groomed which still doesn't make sense.
kitkat1971
30-10-2015
I don't see why they'd suddenly start saying Diane was groomed unless Rob is coming back in or they want to tie it into the McQueen storyline. We've known for years that Ron and Diane first met and had an involvement when she was only 15.

The new thing this week was the reveal that she had an affair with her brother in law (Scott's dad) at some stage when he was a child which forced her to break contact with him and Scott has assumed she abandoned him because she was too wrapped up with rob, Sinead and Finn.

So, either she and rob had a break between them meeting shen she was 15 and them getting together properly during which time she had this affair with Scott's dad or she cheated o Rob during the early years of their relationship.
kitkat1971
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“I must have missed this mention of Diane having an affair. All I remember is that Scott's mother was Diane's sister and had a drink problem, so Diane looked after him. Isn't that right?”

They said that Diane did used to look after Scott when he was little because his Mother drank, a drink problem that he believes started to block out her pain at her Husband cheating. But then Diane stopped being there for Scott so he had to look after himself. From circumstantial evidence, it appears that the affair scott's dad had was with Diane herself so we can assume she broke contact with her sister and Scott out of guilt over it.
lulu g
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“They said that Diane did used to look after Scott when he was little because his Mother drank, a drink problem that he believes started to block out her pain at her Husband cheating. But then Diane stopped being there for Scott so he had to look after himself. From circumstantial evidence, it appears that the affair scott's dad had was with Diane herself so we can assume she broke contact with her sister and Scott out of guilt over it.”

Thanks! I must have missed that episode, or nodded off, or zoned out at the sight of Scott.
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