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Jessica_Bobbing
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by Bonny1:
“the pairing of these two will fail... I suspect Ross loses interest once the chase is over.. Ross is all about wanting what Pete has.... I really hope Ross drops Debbie on her twisted selfish spiteful ass......

It irritates the heck out of me that Debbie NEVER get's her comeuppance.... always treated with kid gloves by the Dingles... she's a grade A tramp.....

I'm sure the actress herself is lovely mind ”

I agree. Ross was playing the doting dad in today's episode, once the novelty wears off and Pete moves on he'll be desperate to get away. I can see him leaving the kids home alone when he is supposed to be babysitting, something happens to one of the kids, Debbie returns home finding one of her kids injured or missing and Ross nowhere to be found. Boom-Debbie's exit.
Adrian_Ward1
29-10-2015
Don't buy intk their relationship
SULLA
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Debbie has ruined Ross. I'm hoping the new SP will realize the pairing isn't working and end ASAP.”

Are you suggesting that she has made him into a vicious criminal

I want them to be Romeo and Juliet with an identical ending
SegaGamer
29-10-2015
I agree with what another poster said, Ross works better on his own. He was very good with Donna, but it was a one off. To be honest, he was even better before they bought the rest of his family along.

It wasn't even surprising that they put Debbie and Ross together, we on here have been saying it's going to happen for ages. It's so predictable but stupid at the same time. No way would they ever get together now.
Bonny1
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“It wasn't even surprising that they put Debbie and Ross together, we on here have been saying it's going to happen for ages. It's so predictable but stupid at the same time. No way would they ever get together now.”

it was all rather repulsive to watch them hold hands and tell husband Pete that they were together... I'm amazed Peter even lifted his head from the table to respond... haha
Lauren_Mowatt
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by Bonny1:
“it was all rather repulsive to watch them hold hands and tell husband Pete that they were together... I'm amazed Peter even lifted his head from the table to respond... haha”

I think that the way they held hands in front of Pete was really disrespectful. Pete can do alot better than Debbie
bornfree
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by Bonny1;80174179[B:
“]it was all rather repulsive to watch them hold hands and tell husband Pete that they were together.[/b].. I'm amazed Peter even lifted his head from the table to respond... haha”

It was rather. However, I am wondering if Ross finds out about her role in the death of Jennie. He might soon change his mind about her then. Well I hope.
Bonny1
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by Lauren_Mowatt:
“I think that the way they held hands in front of Pete was really disrespectful. Pete can do alot better than Debbie”

i'm kind of hoping that all the lads eventually notice that Layla and Carly are actually single and very attractive ......
SteveOwen
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by bornfree:
“It was rather. However, I am wondering if Ross finds out about her role in the death of Jennie. He might soon change his mind about her then. Well I hope.”

Why would that bother him? He's a multiple attempted murderer himself.
Pink_Smurf
29-10-2015
There's no chemistry between Ross and Debbie whatsoever. When they kissed it even looked like he didn't particularly like her. There wasn't much passion between them. It was like he thought "Well I've got nothing better to do" and she's probably the only person who gives him the time of day right now. I hope they split up and soon. She sucks the life out of him.
Jessica_Bobbing
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by Pink_Smurf:
“There's no chemistry between Ross and Debbie whatsoever. When they kissed it even looked like he didn't particularly like her. There wasn't much passion between them. It was like he thought "Well I've got nothing better to do" and she's probably the only person who gives him the time of day right now. I hope they split up and soon. She sucks the life out of him.”

I agree. The character can still be salvaged but the longer he is with Debbie the worse he gets. Having him leave with Debbie would just be giving up and wasting the character.
Noush
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by ianradioian:
“I detest Ross paired up with that miserable,cornish pasty haired, lemon-sucking harridan.
His character works best on his own”

Omg! Lol....
Lauren_Mowatt
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by Jessica_Bobbing:
“I agree. The character can still be salvaged but the longer he is with Debbie the worse he gets. Having him leave with Debbie would just be giving up and wasting the character.”

Every time I see them on screen together Makes me wanna throw up lol
HOAddict
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by Amelia_Sutherla:
“I find this storyline utterly ridiculous, as if you would be with someone who has fathered a baby with your mother and you are bringing up ,it's straight from Jeremy Kyle land, the writers need to get creative and come up with some decent storylines.”

You're right. What is even more ridiculous is asking us to believe that Andy would allow his children to live with that thug - especially as he knows exactly what Ross is capable of and also that Sarah hates him.

In the real world he would be applying for custody of his kids.
star89
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by bornfree:
“It was rather. However, I am wondering if Ross finds out about her role in the death of Jennie. He might soon change his mind about her then. Well I hope.”

Really? Why would Debbie, causing an accidental car crash, bother Ross? The guy who's tried to kill Pete, more than once. Shot and left Robert for dead. Beaten many others and left them for dead..

I know people don't like Debbie but come on, Ross is a million times worse than she will ever be.

Originally Posted by Noush:
“Omg! Lol....”

Don't encourage him

Originally Posted by HOAddict:
“You're right. What is even more ridiculous is asking us to believe that Andy would allow his children to live with that thug - especially as he knows exactly what Ross is capable of and also that Sarah hates him.

In the real world he would be applying for custody of his kids.”

Which he would not get. Been there, done that story line.

And Andy is no better than Ross. Wife beater, arsonist and lets not forget he agreed to Ross' crazy plan so he can hardly judge him for that now.
scone
30-10-2015
Why did the writers have her come back after Pete and Ross had finally crossed a hurdle?

She comes back and rushes to see Ross, the first chance she gets and says, "Come here." and that was that, the following morning they go and brag to Pete about them being a couple holding hands with Karl Pilkington in Ross' arms.

I think the writers want a revival of Cain and Charity, where they will keep splitting up and returning to eachother, hopefully one day Debbie will leave for good.

I don't understand how she can be so forgiving of Ross but not Pete, either one of them could have been under the blanket of twigs, Ross however has tried to murder Pete a few times by staging it as suicide, it's ridiculous, shows how thick she is haha
star89
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by scone:
“Why did the writers have her come back after Pete and Ross had finally crossed a hurdle?

She comes back and rushes to see Ross, the first chance she gets and says, "Come here." and that was that, the following morning they go and brag to Pete about them being a couple holding hands with Karl Pilkington in Ross' arms.

I think the writers want a revival of Cain and Charity, where they will keep splitting up and returning to eachother, hopefully one day Debbie will leave for good.

I don't understand how she can be so forgiving of Ross but not Pete, either one of them could have been under the blanket of twigs, Ross however has tried to murder Pete a few times by staging it as suicide, it's ridiculous, shows how thick she is haha”

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Pink_Smurf
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by star89:
“Really? Why would Debbie, causing an accidental car crash, bother Ross? The guy who's tried to kill Pete, more than once. Shot and left Robert for dead. Beaten many others and left them for dead..

I know people don't like Debbie but come on, Ross is a million times worse than she will ever be.



Don't encourage him



Which he would not get. Been there, done that story line.

And Andy is no better than Ross. Wife beater, arsonist and lets not forget he agreed to Ross' crazy plan so he can hardly judge him for that now.”

BIB Exactly. At least Ross has some charisma. Even if you don't like his actions there is something extra about Ross that makes him attractive along with his good looks. Debbie is no angel either. She held a gun to Chas's head and nearly pulled the trigger. Look at her actions around Gennie's death and the (cringeworthy) time she went gangster. I think the writers etc have put Debbie and Ross together because of each of their criminality. Unfortunately they don't have any spark between them whatsoever. Debbie is very, very good looking. She has a fantastic figure, beautiful long hair and a lovely face but she never smiles and never seems happy. She'll drag Ross down. Maybe they'll change and become model citizens to bring up their kids but what will happen when Charity returns, the cat among the pigeons! Where will Charity live when she comes back to the village? She'll plonk herself on their sofa with nowhere else to go as Moira won't tolerate her at the farm with herself and Cain. Can you imagine Ross, Debbie and Charity all living together? I'd put a bet on Charity and Ross having an affair right in Debbie's home under her nose.
Jessica_Bobbing
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by Pink_Smurf:
“BIB Exactly. At least Ross has some charisma. Even if you don't like his actions there is something extra about Ross that makes him attractive along with his good looks. Debbie is no angel either. She held a gun to Chas's head and nearly pulled the trigger. Look at her actions around Gennie's death and the (cringeworthy) time she went gangster. I think the writers etc have put Debbie and Ross together because of each of their criminality. Unfortunately they don't have any spark between them whatsoever. Debbie is very, very good looking. She has a fantastic figure, beautiful long hair and a lovely face but she never smiles and never seems happy. She'll drag Ross down. Maybe they'll change and become model citizens to bring up their kids but what will happen when Charity returns, the cat among the pigeons! Where will Charity live when she comes back to the village? She'll plonk herself on their sofa with nowhere else to go as Moira won't tolerate her at the farm with herself and Cain. Can you imagine Ross, Debbie and Charity all living together? I'd put a bet on Charity and Ross having an affair right in Debbie's home under her nose.”

But Debbie is leaving soon. I definitely see a Charity/Ross romance on the horizon. It's not like they've never hooked up before!
desperate house
30-10-2015
I think we can all see the way the writers are going with this Debbie/Ross dross. Last night when Debbie was getting grief from Cain, she said "it's like you and mum again" or words to that effect although Cain seemed uncomfortable with her saying this!

Cain and Charity was one of the worst long running s/ls ever, if felt as if it went on for years and years. If the EP and writers are going down the same route with this unlikeable pair, then ED will lose all credibility and should rename itself Hollyoaks or EastEnders or even Jeremy Kyle Special it will be so unbelievable.
bornfree
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by SteveOwen:
“Why would that bother him? He's a multiple attempted murderer himself.”

Yes he is a hypocrite. Its ok for him to do bad things but when someone does it he doesn't like it.
1. He destroyed Jimmy's business by robbing the delivery van and beating the driver.
2. Car Jacking with a baby in the back.
3. Causing Lawrence's heart attack.

But when something is done to him he gets all preachy.
Pink_Smurf
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by Jessica_Bobbing:
“But Debbie is leaving soon. I definitely see a Charity/Ross romance on the horizon. It's not like they've never hooked up before!”

After I posted I remembered Debbie was leaving So yes I think Charity and Ross will get it on
bornfree
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by Pink_Smurf:
“After I posted I remembered Debbie was leaving So yes I think Charity and Ross will get it on ”

The thought makes me feel nauseous. First Debbie sleeping with her mother's lover, then mother sleeping with daughters lover. Honestly how very stomach churning.
Mark_Washingto1
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by sheepiefarm:
“They've dallied before - and it was a big failure - can't see why they'd go there again - especially after everything that's happened.


You seem to base so many of your ideas on what "US" soaps have done - UK soaps are a different kettle of fish completely - hence the reason why they are "primetime" shows and not daytime soaps.

Although, under Kate Oates - ED has very much gone down the route of US daytime storylines ”

I've been watching US soaps since I was 10 years old, while I've been watching British soaps for 3 years so of course most of my ideas will stem from that. Also Pre 1980 the US soaps were very realistic and if you were to look at an episode of Coronation Street from the 70's and compare it to an episode of All My Children from the same time you would find very few differences.

As for over the top stories, they are fine as long as they are character driven. Marlena's possession on Days of Our Lives was arguably the most outlandish story on a soap ever, but it was really a love story about John and Marlena, with John being drawn back into Marlena's orbit and questioning if he really wanted to be a priest. Then you contrast that with Debbie/Ross which is reality based but very plot driven and forced, they are trying to make the audience believe Ross loves Debbie more than Donna and that Debbie would get involved with two brothers after she witnessed the destruction it caused between Robert and Andy.

Originally Posted by SULLA:
“Are you suggesting that she has made him into a vicious criminal

I want them to be Romeo and Juliet with an identical ending”

No Ross was a criminal since day one but the relationship with Debbie has made him unlikable. Before Debbie he was my second favorite character right behind Aaron but since Debbie/Ross I can't root for him and find myself rooting for Pete instead.
PDS1985
30-10-2015
I agree I don't like the Ross/Debbie relationship (because of Ross)
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