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How different would the show be if it was real?
Sorry to wake you up, and I know one of you was poised at the top of the stairs, but you'll be picked up in three hours
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One of the previous contestants (can't remember who) said it's the noise of the camera crew moving around that wakes (some of) them up before the phone rings.
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...and you'll magically just 'know' what type of clothing to wear for that particular task...
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More swearing.
![]() Don't know how many of you work in an office environment but where I work, you pretty much hear swearing all day long. I suppose the beep machine would just go into the overdrive. |
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I've been watching series 1 on youtube and the candidates swear a lot more in it.
Actually series 1 is more realistic in most ways. |
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lots of swearing here too
![]() Tbh, the Apprentice has about 20% reality in it. And I doubt they even sleep in that house and not go back home inbetween filming |
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lots of swearing here too
![]() And I doubt they even sleep in that house and not go back home inbetween filming |
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The fiction that the show is running in real-time does the candidates a real disservice. From what I've read the reality is tasks back to back so by the end of the process the survivors are completely frazzled. But the viewer is often left with the impression that the candidates sit around for five days of the week and so thinks its a doddle.
I can't see why they persist with the 'cars will pick you up in 20 minutes' nonsense either - no way could those hair dos be done in such a short period!
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The fiction that the show is running in real-time does the candidates a real disservice. From what I've read the reality is tasks back to back so by the end of the process the survivors are completely frazzled. But the viewer is often left with the impression that the candidates sit around for five days of the week and so thinks its a doddle.
I can't see why they persist with the 'cars will pick you up in 20 minutes' nonsense either - no way could those hair dos be done in such a short period! ![]() They have shown already that some things are a big fluke, when the Calais products task was on for instance. The candidates had to be back in the boardroom for a certain time with the end result but in the Boardroom they wore the other clothes that seem to appear every boardroom so when did they have time to change clothes if they had to rush to get to Sugar in time |
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It might beneift from being a less formulaic. It's going a bit stale now - although that might down to the poor cast this year.
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This task is particularly ridiculous, come up with a whole book, illustrated and and written in a day then flog it the next day. Of course the books will usually suck.
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A big move towards realism would be to attempt to simulate the need for repeat business, and penalise teams that 'game-played' by shoving any old rubbish out to unsuspecting customers at a huge mark-up, safe in the knowledge that they will never need to see them again after today, like some fly-by-night cowboy builder. Some might suggest that's how Sugar made his money in the first place, but that would be unkind...
Also, they ought to recognise the value of inventory in tasks with non-perishable items. Flogging off a load of stock in the last hour as if you are about to go bankrupt is ridiculous - it would also mean that the teams have to really analyse any deals they make, as the stock itself might be more valuable unsold than sold at too great a discount. Potentially, having penalties in the scavenger hunt that were set to the retail value of the highest value item, then the second highest, then the third etc. regardless of the value of the actual missing item, would mean that it wouldn't be economical anymore to ignore sourcing low-value items and hoping that any discounts on large-ticket items would cover the cost of the fine. Just a couple of suggestions... |
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A big move towards realism would be to attempt to simulate the need for repeat business, and penalise teams that 'game-played' by shoving any old rubbish out to unsuspecting customers at a huge mark-up, safe in the knowledge that they will never need to see them again after today, like some fly-by-night cowboy builder. Some might suggest that's how Sugar made his money in the first place, but that would be unkind...
Also, they ought to recognise the value of inventory in tasks with non-perishable items. Flogging off a load of stock in the last hour as if you are about to go bankrupt is ridiculous - it would also mean that the teams have to really analyse any deals they make, as the stock itself might be more valuable unsold than sold at too great a discount. Potentially, having penalties in the scavenger hunt that were set to the retail value of the highest value item, then the second highest, then the third etc. regardless of the value of the actual missing item, would mean that it wouldn't be economical anymore to ignore sourcing low-value items and hoping that any discounts on large-ticket items would cover the cost of the fine. Just a couple of suggestions... Of course, this would be impractical to do in real life and would probably be rather dull, but you get my idea. |
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An idea I've floated in the past is to turn the entire series into one big task that explores different aspects of business. So week 1 might be about coming up with a business idea, week 2 might be about branding and customer research, and so on up to actually launching the business and generating repeat sales.
Of course, this would be impractical to do in real life and would probably be rather dull, but you get my idea. |
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In the real world a lot of these numpties would never have got the job. Hopefully HR would have managed to see through their blatant CV exaggerations and lies. And if they did get a job at my firm, if they acted they way they do they would have been called into HR pronto.
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It would be a much more useful and informative show. At the moment it's just Big Brother for business. At least the first few series pretended to try and be informative.
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Yes I think one task covers about 3-4 days in real life, so each 'week' has 1-2 tasks done. I believe every so often they get a day off between the end of one task and the start of the next (see ep 3), and then a longer break at about ep 8/9.
So instead of the candidates having to be out of work for effectively 3 months if it were real time, it's actually about 6 weeks at most. I'd like more of the tasks where the candidates have to provide a service of sorts, since that is what some of them would be doing in their businesses. So highlights for me include the pie shop task towards the end of series 7, the away-day task in series 9, and I think next week's ep will be a good one as well. |
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Yes I think one task covers about 3-4 days in real life, so each 'week' has 1-2 tasks done. I believe every so often they get a day off between the end of one task and the start of the next (see ep 3), and then a longer break at about ep 8/9.
So instead of the candidates having to be out of work for effectively 3 months if it were real time, it's actually about 6 weeks at most. I'd like more of the tasks where the candidates have to provide a service of sorts, since that is what some of them would be doing in their businesses. So highlights for me include the pie shop task towards the end of series 7, the away-day task in series 9, and I think next week's ep will be a good one as well. One thing we do know is the dates of last week's pet show task. This took place on May 9th and 10th and it looked like the task took place on the setup day and day 1 of the show, so May 8th and 9th. So that would probably put task 10 in mid to lateJune. It'll be interesting (if you're a geek like me) to see if we can precisely date one of the later tasks to confirm this. |
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'I'd like you all to do a task designed to show off your business skills, with each person matched to roles you have strengths in, not a task that'll have you running around like headless chickens for shits and giggles, whilst Karen and Claude, (who would probably be just as bad in this situation), look on disapprovingly'.
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I always find it amusing that in the time it takes Lord Sugar to fire one of the three losers in the boardroom, everyone else has managed to get back home and change into their pyjamas.
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I always find it amusing that in the time it takes Lord Sugar to fire one of the three losers in the boardroom, everyone else has managed to get back home and change into their pyjamas.
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To answer the OP, it might give us a realistic idea of what attributes are useful in a successful businessperson.
'The Apprentice' is a load of old codswallop, says biz prof http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07...says_biz_prof/ |
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This is always a bit odd, I wonder how long the whole firing process takes, from sending them very unnecessarily to the coffee shop and then bringing them back to the boardroom. I prefer on the US version how the boardroom starts immediately after the result.
Funnily enough we both also used to live near the original coffee shop - the Addis Cafe in Notting Hill. That was actually a real cafe, but it's closed now. |
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This is always a bit odd, I wonder how long the whole firing process takes, from sending them very unnecessarily to the coffee shop and then bringing them back to the boardroom. I prefer on the US version how the boardroom starts immediately after the result.
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I'd imagine since the building is rented for the show the trip to the cafe will allow the camera crew etc to reposition the camera's/chairs/tidy up all the glasses of water etc.
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