overmarked Peter and very much so Helen
undermarked Anita
undermarked Anita
overmarked/undermarked
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Undermarked- Kellie, Peter (and I think he's been overmarked nearly every week so far so that's saying something), Anita
Overmarked- Jamelia (a little), Jay (a LOT), Helen (again a little, she was very good but not sure it deserved 9s), Georgia (same as Helen)
No one was particularly spectacular tonight and I think the top of the leaderboard should have been scoring about 32
Overmarked- Jamelia (a little), Jay (a LOT), Helen (again a little, she was very good but not sure it deserved 9s), Georgia (same as Helen)
No one was particularly spectacular tonight and I think the top of the leaderboard should have been scoring about 32
Undermarked: Anita, Jay
Overmarked: Peter, Jamelia (BADLY overmarked, that was a terrible Jive), Kellie
Overmarked: Peter, Jamelia (BADLY overmarked, that was a terrible Jive), Kellie
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Undermarked - Anita, AGAIN.
Overmarked - Jay and Jeremy.”
“Undermarked - Anita, AGAIN.
Overmarked - Jay and Jeremy.”
Why do they keep on doing that. Craig gives them 6 and then he gives another couple not so good a 6 too. Jamelia I think. And I like Jamelia but thought she didn't deserve it. How does he work it? Does he not take into account that Anita is not trained in the least.
Originally Posted by Frank Mag:
“Over marked: The usual suspects:- Peter, Kellie, Carol
Under marked: Anita,Kirsty”
“Over marked: The usual suspects:- Peter, Kellie, Carol
Under marked: Anita,Kirsty”
I thought Kirsty is getting better and taking risks and trying so hard so why was she so undermarked.
Originally Posted by bornfree:
“Why do they keep on doing that. Craig gives them 7 and then he gives another couple not so good a 7 too. How does he work it? Does he not take into account that Anita is not trained in the least.”
“Why do they keep on doing that. Craig gives them 7 and then he gives another couple not so good a 7 too. How does he work it? Does he not take into account that Anita is not trained in the least.”
I don't understand it either and I am getting mightily fed up with it. The judging is all over the place.
I'm hoping it's that Craig sees potential in Anita so is trying to push her by not scoring her high?
Otherwise there is no excuse.
Otherwise there is no excuse.
Craig always marks the first couples of the night low so that he can mark the later ones higher. This sounds sensible until the later couples perform worse and he has nowhere to go with his marking.
Undermarked yet again.....................Anita
Overmarked.............Jamelia,Jeremy,Helen,Peter and Kellie, in fact most of the marking tonight was way off.
Overmarked.............Jamelia,Jeremy,Helen,Peter and Kellie, in fact most of the marking tonight was way off.
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I don't understand it either and I am getting mightily fed up with it. The judging is all over the place.”
“I don't understand it either and I am getting mightily fed up with it. The judging is all over the place.”
They want a 2 v 2 boy v girl final. Its also time for another male winner, or it will look like a set habit that a female wins. Their problem is they have put 4 good females in - all of whom can act better than Jay or Peter, and can beat them with the right dance. There's also Katie - who could win if it was a ballroom competition. The girls have to be culled somehow. The stronger 4 of them look, the less credible and worse the competition looks - as at least two people, who will rightly be seen as competitors to win, will go, possibly rather arbitarily, before the final. The marking seems to downplaying Kellie and Anita , and overplaying Katie's latin problem - which may be largely having Anton. The judges are also commenting on the detail of other people's acting, but not penalising jay for his lack of it.
They are essentially shaping the competition prematurely. I think Anita could win on acting and gymnastics ability with the right dances at key times, and Kellie is their best combination of presence , acting, and fitness, but as I said somone has to go .
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“They want a 2 v 2 boy v girl final. Its also time for another male winner, or it will look like a set habit that a female wins. Their problem is they have put 4 good females in - all of whom can act better than Jay or Peter, and can beat them with the right dance. There's also Katie - who could win if it was a ballroom competition. The girls have to be culled somehow. The stronger 4 of them look, the less credible and worse the competition looks - as at least two people, who will rightly be seen as competitors to win, will go, possibly rather arbitarily, before the final. The marking seems to downplaying Kellie and Anita , and overplaying Katie's latin problem - which may be largely having Anton. The judges are also commenting on the detail of other people's acting, but not penalising jay for his lack of it.
They are essentially shaping the competition prematurely. I think Anita could win on acting and gymnastics ability with the right dances at key times, and Kellie is their best combination of presence , acting, and fitness, but as I said somone has to go .”
“They want a 2 v 2 boy v girl final. Its also time for another male winner, or it will look like a set habit that a female wins. Their problem is they have put 4 good females in - all of whom can act better than Jay or Peter, and can beat them with the right dance. There's also Katie - who could win if it was a ballroom competition. The girls have to be culled somehow. The stronger 4 of them look, the less credible and worse the competition looks - as at least two people, who will rightly be seen as competitors to win, will go, possibly rather arbitarily, before the final. The marking seems to downplaying Kellie and Anita , and overplaying Katie's latin problem - which may be largely having Anton. The judges are also commenting on the detail of other people's acting, but not penalising jay for his lack of it.
They are essentially shaping the competition prematurely. I think Anita could win on acting and gymnastics ability with the right dances at key times, and Kellie is their best combination of presence , acting, and fitness, but as I said somone has to go .”
BIB I thought that the judges were specifically mentioning Jay's lack of acting and characterisation and marking him down accordingly.
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“ They are essentially shaping the competition prematurely. I think Anita could win on acting and gymnastics ability with the right dances at key times, and Kellie is their best combination of presence , acting, and fitness, but as I said somone has to go .”
“ They are essentially shaping the competition prematurely. I think Anita could win on acting and gymnastics ability with the right dances at key times, and Kellie is their best combination of presence , acting, and fitness, but as I said somone has to go .”
Think that she the least liked of the female contenders on DS (and that is saying something when you also have someone who has had a smear campaign in the tabloids).
Anita is by far the most liked female celeb (for 50% probably due to Gleb), but she doesn't stand a chance against Jay (also because there seems to a massive cross-over between fandoms; it's more of a mixed fandom).
Jay will win the competition in a landslide, as it doesn't happen too often that your biggest competition gives you a large share of your (final) votes.
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“Think that she the least liked of the female contenders on DS (and that is saying something when you also have someone who has had a smear campaign in the tabloids).
Anita is by far the most liked female celeb (for 50% probably due to Gleb), but she doesn't stand a chance against Jay (also because there seems to a massive cross-over between fandoms; it's more of a mixed fandom).
Jay will win the competition in a landslide, as it doesn't happen too often that your biggest competition gives you a large share of your (final) votes.”
“Think that she the least liked of the female contenders on DS (and that is saying something when you also have someone who has had a smear campaign in the tabloids).
Anita is by far the most liked female celeb (for 50% probably due to Gleb), but she doesn't stand a chance against Jay (also because there seems to a massive cross-over between fandoms; it's more of a mixed fandom).
Jay will win the competition in a landslide, as it doesn't happen too often that your biggest competition gives you a large share of your (final) votes.”
i think thats very likely , but its a very dull competition if the most professionally trained dancer, from day one, wins for looking like a professionally trained dancer, and having a boy band vote. They seem unable to get much of a story going this year. Its pretty random who does best, so there's no momentum, or progression ,to follow , Katie might be the journey story - but she's stuck in a Latin jam with Anton driving. Kellie, I think ,is the one showing all around potential to do well outside the show - but can she sing at all for theatre work ? AnitaI find the most interesting - how do you get presenters who can act that well, and why is she capable of such gymnastic moves?
I can see a method to the shows marking madness though. Helen is a BBC prime time asset, Georgia may bring in some of the ITV x factor audience. That will probably do - even if they can't match their marks to their comments with Kellie or Anita , and Katie gets wall to wall negativity for actually being entertaining.
Originally Posted by j4Rose:
“Undermarked - My favourites
Overmarked - Everyone else”
“Undermarked - My favourites
Overmarked - Everyone else”
Complete agreement.
Only that personally my favourites were scored spot on.
Originally Posted by j4Rose:
“Undermarked - My favourites
Overmarked - Everyone else”
“Undermarked - My favourites
Overmarked - Everyone else”
Can we shut the thread now. I did say up thread that I didn't think scoring was far off ?
Originally Posted by nyannie:
“Undermarked: Anita
Overmarked: Peter, Jeremy (much as I love him), Helen and Jamellia”
“Undermarked: Anita
Overmarked: Peter, Jeremy (much as I love him), Helen and Jamellia”
Ditto
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